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Title: extra stubborn wheel deposits?
Post by: john_o on January 19, 2010, 01:28:24 pm
first chance to wash the car after xmas, holidays and the recent crazy snow....
its been a while so the cr*ps been on there for at least a month.

I double foamed before it even saw a wash mitt which was fine.

However my wheels in the corners just wouldnt clean up easily, sort of an accumulated grit pocket!
I can remove it with my fingernail eventually but not ideal (and Im pretty sure its scratching the lacquer in doing so!)
Bilberry diluted then up to neat but no effect after several soaks.

Acidic cleaner next  :surprised: ?

tbh Im amazed how much the weather has fkd up my car ! t
he front discs are awful  :surprised:  (even after a set of cleanup runs..)

what should i use?

Title: Re: extra stubborn wheel deposits?
Post by: VC on January 19, 2010, 01:44:35 pm
x2

the finichis on the EOS are suffering this too, the Bilberry wont touch it, the AG clean wheels gets 80% of it off but still some remains  :confused:
Title: Re: extra stubborn wheel deposits?
Post by: SteveP on January 19, 2010, 02:22:45 pm
x 3  :sad1:
Title: Re: extra stubborn wheel deposits?
Post by: Steve Baker on January 19, 2010, 02:29:16 pm
Plenty of soapy water to lubricate and a fairly aggressive clay bar and loads of elbow grease will shift it all..............BUT be patient!  :happy2:
Title: Re: extra stubborn wheel deposits?
Post by: JPC on January 19, 2010, 02:29:32 pm
It sounds like someone needs a winter top up!  :pomppomp:



Unfortunately, youve touched on an area of detailing that is challenging for professionals as well. Obviously, you could go crazy with acid  :evilgrin:, that will get it off, but its far from safe. There are stories of brick acid being used on DW, with no negative effects (seamingly) but theres not a chance id use that on a customers car!

I would suggest something like Megs Wheel brightener, i have some of this in the unit, that i use from time to time on stubborn wheels. I would not suggest using this as a wheel cleaner you use every time you wash the car though, it is very strong, and should be used with caution!

Even after wheel brightner, i sometimes have to break the clay out!

its a tough job. good luck!
Title: Re: extra stubborn wheel deposits?
Post by: VC on January 19, 2010, 03:10:35 pm

Even after wheel brightner, i sometimes have to break the clay out!

its a tough job. good luck!

CLAY BAR!

Title: Re: extra stubborn wheel deposits?
Post by: Gene Hunt on January 19, 2010, 03:10:43 pm
..........one of the reasons my edition 30 alloys get washed at least once a week even if it's too cold to do the body work.
Title: Re: extra stubborn wheel deposits?
Post by: VC on January 19, 2010, 03:13:15 pm
indeed my rims on the .:R32 are always clean, the Eos though doesnt get as much attention so it builds up
Title: Re: extra stubborn wheel deposits?
Post by: JPC on January 19, 2010, 03:14:37 pm
thats the key with it, keeping on top of them.

You'll find that the hot brake dust on top of hot brake dust....on top of brake dust results in a 4 hour wheels off session!
Title: Re: extra stubborn wheel deposits?
Post by: Phil Mcavity on January 19, 2010, 03:25:22 pm
..........one of the reasons my edition 30 alloys get washed at least once a week even if it's too cold to do the body work.
Indeed more Regular wash's on wheels to prevent that build up
Title: Re: extra stubborn wheel deposits?
Post by: john_o on January 19, 2010, 03:59:47 pm
thanks guys  :happy2:

as you know the car usually gets a regular once a week wash but the conditions and timing have conspired against me on this occasion  :ashamed:

and Jay it needs more than a top up now  :surprised:
Title: Re: extra stubborn wheel deposits?
Post by: JPC on January 19, 2010, 04:23:56 pm
my winter enhancement is more than a top up! i did a stunning r32 today, turnaround was great and a very good level of correction for £279. (£229 + £50 for two extra hours taken extending correction abilities)

;)
Title: Re: extra stubborn wheel deposits?
Post by: Top Cat on January 19, 2010, 08:33:39 pm
my winter enhancement is more than a top up! i did a stunning r32 today, turnaround was great and a very good level of correction for £279. (£229 + £50 for two extra hours taken extending correction abilities)

;)

This post is useless without discount picture's  :grin:
Title: Re: extra stubborn wheel deposits?
Post by: john_o on January 19, 2010, 10:18:49 pm
I know Jay  :love:
but for now prams come first  :surprised:
Title: Re: extra stubborn wheel deposits?
Post by: JPC on January 19, 2010, 10:20:27 pm
Prams???? Wow.... How did I miss that??? Congrats john if that's the case? Or have I completely missread all of that?
Title: Re: extra stubborn wheel deposits?
Post by: keith on January 19, 2010, 10:26:05 pm
who remembers wonder wheels, I used to cack myself putting that on my wheels you could smell the potentcy :scared:

Autosmart do a strong wheel cleaner that contains acid, my brother had an oily residue on one alloy that wouldn't move for love nor money but this stuff got rid of it.
Title: Re: extra stubborn wheel deposits?
Post by: john_o on January 19, 2010, 10:27:18 pm
I do , wonder wheels would clean anything  :signLOL:
Title: Re: extra stubborn wheel deposits?
Post by: JPC on January 19, 2010, 10:31:11 pm
Wrong!! Wonder wheels will still struggle. Trust me. I did a test on a wheel that was surplus to requirements once and it didn't do anything more than wheel brightner, infact I think it did less. It certainly had me worried about using it
Title: Re: extra stubborn wheel deposits?
Post by: john_o on January 19, 2010, 10:38:38 pm
really  :surprised:
I remember ruining a set of rimstars on my dads bx gti with wonder wheels by using it twice a week  :signLOL:
Title: Re: extra stubborn wheel deposits?
Post by: JPC on January 19, 2010, 10:39:16 pm
That's all it seems to do!!
Title: Re: extra stubborn wheel deposits?
Post by: keith on January 19, 2010, 10:41:38 pm
Its been cooled down since going to carplan theres two types on the market at the mo. ebay is a wash with it.
you could try tardis if its tar, I love watching that stuff melt away.
Title: Re: extra stubborn wheel deposits?
Post by: JPC on January 19, 2010, 10:43:33 pm
Tardis will help but I doubt it's tar. Brake dust will do jack sh*te with tardis. Be carefull with tardis too. Do one wheel at a time whatever you use jst to make sure you don't leave any harsh products on too long by accident
Title: Re: extra stubborn wheel deposits?
Post by: VC on January 19, 2010, 10:44:31 pm
yeah even the AG stuff says no longer than 60 seconds per wheel
Title: Re: extra stubborn wheel deposits?
Post by: keith on January 19, 2010, 11:02:05 pm
All the road repairs going on now after the ice snow and grit account for my two biggest sellers - tardis and bilberry wheel cleaner over the last two weeks.
I stopped using the megs wheel brightner as my calipers dulled slightly, and this was me trying to avoid touching them with the stuff. if it evens hints that it has acid in it doesn't go near my car.
Title: Re: extra stubborn wheel deposits?
Post by: JPC on January 19, 2010, 11:04:43 pm
Yep. Your right on that score Keith. That's why I don't recomend wheel brightner as a general use cleaner