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General => Random Chat => Topic started by: Bozz on August 22, 2016, 03:10:53 pm
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Hi all, I'm still trying to workout what Nicola sturgeon is going on about,,, The People of Scotland voted to Remain in the UK a couple of years ago & the UK as a whole voted to leave the EU, Since the vote she has been going on & on about Scotland being taken out of the EU against its will ? Sorry ms Sturgeon but I thought a vote is a vote,
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Hi all, I'm still trying to workout what Nicola sturgeon is going on about,,, The People of Scotland voted to Remain in the UK a couple of years ago & the UK as a whole voted to leave the EU, Since the vote she has been going on & on about Scotland being taken out of the EU against its will ? Sorry ms Sturgeon but I thought a vote is a vote,
Some of the UK voted to leave the EU....but the margin was extremely small, which means that a lot of people don't agree with the exit. The process was fundamentally flawed by a lot of mis-information, as well well as general ignorance by the wider public, particularly around things relating to matters relevant to the European Convention on Human Rights etc and not the EU, which is significantly quite different.
Cameron should have ensured that the process was beyond doubt, by building in a significant (10-20%)majority for exit. He didn't, and now we have this disgusting 'virtual licence' for the moronic racist elements who think that they have wider approval for racist attacks. No wonder Scotland is taking this stance, apart from other reasons.... Little Britain! :doh:
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sturgeon is just trying to stir things up to get another Scottish referendum
the people that voted remain need to get on with life !
we are leaving it would be better for everyone if we do it together
all this little Britain is sour grapes
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Yeah, little Britain...... Remind me, who came second in the olympics?
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sturgeon is just trying to stir things up to get another Scottish referendum
the people that voted remain need to get on with life !
we are leaving it would be better for everyone if we do it together
all this little Britain is sour grapes
. Agree 100%
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Hi all, I'm still trying to workout what Nicola sturgeon is going on about,,, The People of Scotland voted to Remain in the UK a couple of years ago & the UK as a whole voted to leave the EU, Since the vote she has been going on & on about Scotland being taken out of the EU against its will ? Sorry ms Sturgeon but I thought a vote is a vote,
Some of the UK voted to leave the EU....but the margin was extremely small, which means that a lot of people don't agree with the exit. The process was fundamentally flawed by a lot of mis-information, as well well as general ignorance by the wider public, particularly around things relating to matters relevant to the European Convention on Human Rights etc and not the EU, which is significantly quite different.
Cameron should have ensured that the process was beyond doubt, by building in a significant (10-20%)majority for exit. He didn't, and now we have this disgusting 'virtual licence' for the moronic racist elements who think that they have wider approval for racist attacks. No wonder Scotland is taking this stance, apart from other reasons.... Little Britain! :doh:
. Yeah I agree with a lot you say ref What Cameron should have done & I agree the attacks on other people are Wrong that's for sure, I maybe wrong but many people I know don't have a problem with anyone coming to the UK because people have been coming here for decades without any problems, It seems what people are fed up with is the Mass of people coming here from Eastern Europe,,, I know a lots of people from Eastern Europe & they are no different to anyone else, But there are some who don't give a fig for this country & are only interested in making money,
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Employers are the only people making money because they just want people to carry on coming here so they can continue to have cheap labour & keep wages as low as possible, One thing I can't understand,,, About 12 years ago we brought a small house about 30 miles south of Carcassonne in France with the idea of living there one day, We had to learn French so we could mix with the locals & because we were going to France,,, A few months ago I was up in Lincolnshire & had to call into A&E in Lincoln & as I walked in I noticed a sign in about 6 different Eastern Europe languages (Why). People are people no matter where they come from But I think the money wasted on signs like that could be used to treat people in hospital instead,, I maybe wrong !!!
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At the end of the day Europe needs us just as we need them & I think when other EU country's see the UK making a go of it then other country's will be voting to leave so they can make their own laws for their own people, Just my opinion
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we are leaving it would be better for everyone if we do it together
So I suppose we should always just lie back and accept things that happen to us, even if we don't agree with them?
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we are leaving it would be better for everyone if we do it together
So I suppose we should always just lie back and accept things that happen to us, even if we don't agree with them?
nothing to do with lying back and excepting it
we had a vote and the remain camp lost that's what makes this country so great
its called democracy
would you rather live in a country that every time a vote don't go the government's way they cheat/scam and lie till it does
politics and religion two biggest things people argue and fight over and tbh two things i really don't care about we all have our views and and everyone's is different that's why we have a majority vote wins system its very fare
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Except the irony is that we're now left with an unelected Prime Minister because of it all.
Democracy ey?
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If we were not in the EU would we have wanted to join it ? I think if you look at it this way makes the vote out seem the only way to vote. The EU has been failing for many years at vast expense to all those in it.
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i must say i would not of voted her in
but i would rather her get us out the eu than david as he has no spine
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we are leaving it would be better for everyone if we do it together
So I suppose we should always just lie back and accept things that happen to us, even if we don't agree with them?
nothing to do with lying back and excepting it
we had a vote and the remain camp lost that's what makes this country so great
its called democracy
would you rather live in a country that every time a vote don't go the government's way they cheat/scam and lie till it does
politics and religion two biggest things people argue and fight over and tbh two things i really don't care about we all have our views and and everyone's is different that's why we have a majority vote wins system its very fare
If one felt strongly about leaving the EU and the vote went the other way, would people still be shouting sour grapes if they continued to campaign to leave? No so why do remain voters not get the same courtesy to express their opinions and object to a decision that they see as being detrimental to the whole country?
Going back on topic in regards to Scotland, they voted to remain by a far bigger margin than the whole of the UK voted to leave. Being from a region that also had a remain majority I understand their frustrations and though I would much rather our United Kingdom remained united, they are entitled to have their voice heard. That is what living in a free country means.
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we are leaving it would be better for everyone if we do it together
So I suppose we should always just lie back and accept things that happen to us, even if we don't agree with them?
nothing to do with lying back and excepting it
we had a vote and the remain camp lost that's what makes this country so great
its called democracy
would you rather live in a country that every time a vote don't go the government's way they cheat/scam and lie till it does
politics and religion two biggest things people argue and fight over and tbh two things i really don't care about we all have our views and and everyone's is different that's why we have a majority vote wins system its very fare
. I couldn't agree with you more,,, Well said mate
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If we were not in the EU would we have wanted to join it ? I think if you look at it this way makes the vote out seem the only way to vote. The EU has been failing for many years at vast expense to all those in it.
. Another first class post
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we are leaving it would be better for everyone if we do it together
So I suppose we should always just lie back and accept things that happen to us, even if we don't agree with them?
nothing to do with lying back and excepting it
we had a vote and the remain camp lost that's what makes this country so great
its called democracy
would you rather live in a country that every time a vote don't go the government's way they cheat/scam and lie till it does
politics and religion two biggest things people argue and fight over and tbh two things i really don't care about we all have our views and and everyone's is different that's why we have a majority vote wins system its very fare
If one felt strongly about leaving the EU and the vote went the other way, would people still be shouting sour grapes if they continued to campaign to leave? No so why do remain voters not get the same courtesy to express their opinions and object to a decision that they see as being detrimental to the whole country?
Going back on topic in regards to Scotland, they voted to remain by a far bigger margin than the whole of the UK voted to leave. Being from a region that also had a remain majority I understand their frustrations and though I would much rather our United Kingdom remained united, they are entitled to have their voice heard. That is what living in a free country means.
. Well written mate 100% agree
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There are good things with being in the EU and also bad things, To be honest with you all I voted to leave mainly because I don't agree people sat round a table in a different country should tell us what we can & can not do,
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Right, here's a challenge for those posters who say it's 'sour grapes' from the 'remain' voters.....
I would like each of you 'exiters' that have posted so far to come up with 6, yes just half a dozen, real examples each, of rules or regulations that the EU has imposed upon the UK (telling us what to do!), that the UK would not have wanted to implement of its own accord. That shouldn't be difficult for you..... Straight off, because you all know your facts, no internet research, six examples, straight off from each of you. Starter for 10, as they say......
Looking forward to your responses. By my reckoning, that should be at least 18 specific different examples posted here without delay :thinking: :scared: :surprised:
Don't delay.....do it today..... :wink:
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way too much politics for me i am out :smiley:
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Right, here's a challenge for those posters who say it's 'sour grapes' from the 'remain' voters.....
I would like each of you 'exiters' that have posted so far to come up with 6, yes just half a dozen, real examples each, of rules or regulations that the EU has imposed upon the UK (telling us what to do!), that the UK would not have wanted to implement of its own accord. That shouldn't be difficult for you..... Straight off, because you all know your facts, no internet research, six examples, straight off from each of you. Starter for 10, as they say......
Looking forward to your responses. By my reckoning, that should be at least 18 specific different examples posted here without delay :thinking: :scared: :surprised:
Don't delay.....do it today..... :wink:
And the remainers post 6 reasons to stay in ?
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Right, here's a challenge for those posters who say it's 'sour grapes' from the 'remain' voters.....
I would like each of you 'exiters' that have posted so far to come up with 6, yes just half a dozen, real examples each, of rules or regulations that the EU has imposed upon the UK (telling us what to do!), that the UK would not have wanted to implement of its own accord. That shouldn't be difficult for you..... Straight off, because you all know your facts, no internet research, six examples, straight off from each of you. Starter for 10, as they say......
Looking forward to your responses. By my reckoning, that should be at least 18 specific different examples posted here without delay :thinking: :scared: :surprised:
Don't delay.....do it today..... :wink:
And the remainers post 6 reasons to stay in ?
Arhhh, a very predictable deflecting tactic.....! Remember, it was straight off - no research. Giving six real examples - and then asking for six reasons to stay would have had some credibility.
Anyone else? :wink:
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Oh, what a surprise - not!
Over 24 hours on......... and not a bean of any substance from anyone.
Soundbites; off the cuff remarks; stuff repeated that's been overheard from mates in the pub etc, all posted previously, but absolutely no hard evidence brought forward, or anything to back up the causal, cheap shot, uninformed remarks.
Ok, so having failed to come up with anything straight off, even though there are vocal 'experts' on here who really know their facts and spout off about 'sour grapes', and 'excellent posts', etc, how about doing the research, and coming up with six items that the the EU has pushed through, without the UK having any involvement in the decision making process for any of those six items???? Is that easier? :wink:
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Sour Grapes ? :evilgrin:
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Sour Grapes ? :evilgrin:
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There were many reasons to remain & many reasons to leave That's why the UK had a Free vote on it,,
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Except the irony is that we're now left with an unelected Prime Minister because of it all.
Democracy ey?
When did you, or any of us, get to vote for any Prime Minister?
Right or wrong - that's not the way it works AFAIK?
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Right, here's a challenge for those posters who say it's 'sour grapes' from the 'remain' voters.....
I would like each of you 'exiters' that have posted so far to come up with 6, yes just half a dozen, real examples each, of rules or regulations that the EU has imposed upon the UK (telling us what to do!), that the UK would not have wanted to implement of its own accord. That shouldn't be difficult for you..... Straight off, because you all know your facts, no internet research, six examples, straight off from each of you. Starter for 10, as they say......
Looking forward to your responses. By my reckoning, that should be at least 18 specific different examples posted here without delay :thinking: :scared: :surprised:
Don't delay.....do it today..... :wink:
If you want a few examples of what the EU as told us what to do,,, Just ask the farmers & fishermen of the UK, They will give you a lot more than the 5 or 6 answers you require
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Except the irony is that we're now left with an unelected Prime Minister because of it all.
Democracy ey?
When did you, or any of us, get to vote for any Prime Minister?
Right or wrong - that's not the way it works AFAIK?
I agree my friend,
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Right, here's a challenge for those posters who say it's 'sour grapes' from the 'remain' voters.....
I would like each of you 'exiters' that have posted so far to come up with 6, yes just half a dozen, real examples each, of rules or regulations that the EU has imposed upon the UK (telling us what to do!), that the UK would not have wanted to implement of its own accord. That shouldn't be difficult for you..... Straight off, because you all know your facts, no internet research, six examples, straight off from each of you. Starter for 10, as they say......
Looking forward to your responses. By my reckoning, that should be at least 18 specific different examples posted here without delay :thinking: :scared: :surprised:
Don't delay.....do it today..... :wink:
If you want a few examples of what the EU as told us what to do,,, Just ask the farmers & fishermen of the UK, They will give you a lot more than the 5 or 6 answers you require
You miss the critical point... There are many examples, but it's wrong to say these are imposed by people round a table from another country......The UK has had an input / involvement and a vote on these decisions, through MEP's etc and representation. I have asked for examples where the Uk has not been involved in the EU decision making processes, and no surprise, no one has been able to provide any such examples - There's this huge misconception that the EU decisions are imposed upon the UK, without any UK input.
What I have done is to ask for the evidence - none provided.....
If you think that the financial support provided by the EU to UK farming etc will be replaced by direct UK funding, then I think you are deluding yourself - just look at all the cutbacks - the bulk of money the Uk pays to the EU will just be absorbed into savings on the public purse
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Farmers shouldnt need financial support. UK consumers should be willing to pay the correct price for goods.
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Farmers shouldnt need financial support. UK consumers should be willing to pay the correct price for goods.
I fully agree mate,,, UK farmers grow it & we in the UK buy it, Why import veg from miles away when it's grown on your own doorstep ?
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Right, here's a challenge for those posters who say it's 'sour grapes' from the 'remain' voters.....
I would like each of you 'exiters' that have posted so far to come up with 6, yes just half a dozen, real examples each, of rules or regulations that the EU has imposed upon the UK (telling us what to do!), that the UK would not have wanted to implement of its own accord. That shouldn't be difficult for you..... Straight off, because you all know your facts, no internet research, six examples, straight off from each of you. Starter for 10, as they say......
Looking forward to your responses. By my reckoning, that should be at least 18 specific different examples posted here without delay :thinking: :scared: :surprised:
Don't delay.....do it today..... :wink:
If you want a few examples of what the EU as told us what to do,,, Just ask the farmers & fishermen of the UK, They will give you a lot more than the 5 or 6 answers you require
You miss the critical point... There are many examples, but it's wrong to say these are imposed by people round a table from another country......The UK has had an input / involvement and a vote on these decisions, through MEP's etc and representation. I have asked for examples where the Uk has not been involved in the EU decision making processes, and no surprise, no one has been able to provide any such examples - There's this huge misconception that the EU decisions are imposed upon the UK, without any UK input.
What I have done is to ask for the evidence - none provided.....
If you think that the financial support provided by the EU to UK farming etc will be replaced by direct UK funding, then I think you are deluding yourself - just look at all the cutbacks - the bulk of money the Uk pays to the EU will just be absorbed into savings on the public purse
. I agree with a lot of what you say but it's time for this great nation to stand on its own 2 feet, Many people have been called racist because of their views on immigration But the schools doctors & local services can only take so much, I'm not a racist by any means,,, I even support & donate for Palestinian freedom & justice But I do think this country can only take so much & we should have our own control on people from other EU country's coming here,
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Not a EU vote matter But watching the news yesterday the French want to set up a Asylum centre in Calais to help migrants win the right to settle in Britain !!! I always thought you claim asylum in the first safe country you get to ? I maybe wrong of course
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Not a EU vote matter But watching the news yesterday the French want to set up a Asylum centre in Calais to help migrants win the right to settle in Britain !!! I always thought you claim asylum in the first safe country you get to ? I maybe wrong of course
It's a f*cking joke that's what. If they are in France they are in a safe country.
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Not a EU vote matter But watching the news yesterday the French want to set up a Asylum centre in Calais to help migrants win the right to settle in Britain !!! I always thought you claim asylum in the first safe country you get to ? I maybe wrong of course
It's a f*cking joke that's what. If they are in France they are in a safe country.
That's just what I thought,, When is this country going to have some backbone ?
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Not a EU vote matter But watching the news yesterday the French want to set up a Asylum centre in Calais to help migrants win the right to settle in Britain !!! I always thought you claim asylum in the first safe country you get to ? I maybe wrong of course
It's a f*cking joke that's what. If they are in France they are in a safe country.
I can't understand it myself cos France is a beautiful country & always has been,, Maybe someone could tell us what the biggest difference is between France & the UK ( apart from our benefit system & free housing of course,,, We should help people around the world who need help if we can But if someone travels across 5 or 6 country's just to get to the 7th one then The government should get some backbone & ask themselves Why
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I can't understand it myself cos France is a beautiful country & always has been,, Maybe someone could tell us what the biggest difference is between France & the UK ( apart from our benefit system & free housing of course,,, We should help people around the world who need help if we can But if someone travels across 5 or 6 country's just to get to the 7th one then The government should get some backbone & ask themselves Why?
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