MK5 Golf GTI

All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: r5gtt on August 29, 2016, 03:40:34 pm

Title: ttrs brakes on mk5?
Post by: r5gtt on August 29, 2016, 03:40:34 pm
Will ttrs brakes fit my mk5
Title: Re: ttrs brakes on mk5?
Post by: bbfb10 on August 29, 2016, 03:54:34 pm
Yes. You may need a spacer depending on your wheels.

I have them on my GTI
Title: Re: ttrs brakes on mk5?
Post by: r5gtt on August 29, 2016, 03:57:22 pm
thanks @bbfb10 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=8716) I've got some 15mm spacers coming in x4 so hopefully get these this evening with discs and lines.
Title: Re: ttrs brakes on mk5?
Post by: r5gtt on August 29, 2016, 04:00:39 pm
Anything look odd about this

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Title: Re: ttrs brakes on mk5?
Post by: bbfb10 on August 29, 2016, 04:00:59 pm
What wheels and discs are you running?
Title: Re: ttrs brakes on mk5?
Post by: r5gtt on August 29, 2016, 04:21:22 pm
R32 18" wheels. not sure on discs yet so any help would be greatful. :smiley: 
I'm running oem ones at present.

are they direct fit and no brackets needed?.
Title: Re: ttrs brakes on mk5?
Post by: AJP on August 29, 2016, 04:32:49 pm
R32 18" wheels. not sure on discs yet so any help would be greatful. :smiley: 
I'm running oem ones at present.

are they direct fit and no brackets needed?.
You can fit the calipers with oem TTRS discs (370mm) but those discs get slated. Apparently they warp really easily. There are loads of threads on this.

The most popular option is to use the 340mm TTS disc. However, you will need adapters. AKS sell them, I think they're around 200 quid. Again, lots of threads covering it.

Title: Re: ttrs brakes on mk5?
Post by: r5gtt on August 29, 2016, 05:08:59 pm
R32 18" wheels. not sure on discs yet so any help would be greatful. :smiley: 
I'm running oem ones at present.

are they direct fit and no brackets needed?.
You can fit the calipers with oem TTRS discs (370mm) but those discs get slated. Apparently they warp really easily. There are loads of threads on this.

The most popular option is to use the 340mm TTS disc. However, you will need adapters. AKS sell them, I think they're around 200 quid. Again, lots of threads covering it.
I was just told about the discs by paradox re warping.
£200 for adapters like wt*  :surprised: almost the same cost as the discs.

Thanks AJP
Title: Re: ttrs brakes on mk5?
Post by: AJP on August 29, 2016, 05:16:22 pm
R32 18" wheels. not sure on discs yet so any help would be greatful. :smiley: 
I'm running oem ones at present.

are they direct fit and no brackets needed?.
You can fit the calipers with oem TTRS discs (370mm) but those discs get slated. Apparently they warp really easily. There are loads of threads on this.

The most popular option is to use the 340mm TTS disc. However, you will need adapters. AKS sell them, I think they're around 200 quid. Again, lots of threads covering it.
I was just told about the discs by paradox re warping.
£200 for adapters like wt*  :surprised: almost the same cost as the discs.

Thanks AJP
Yeah it aint cheap is it. I looked at TTRS as well as the 18z option, and as good as they both undoubtedly are, it's a big chunk of money. I don't know if anyone else makes the brackets (or how good they are). Once in a while you see the AKS brackets coming up 2nd hand, but it's rare.

If there was a good aftermarket replacement for the 370mm disc you'd be laughing. But as far as I know the only thing available is an expensive two piece, like the 362mm disc that forms part of the 2 grand AKS TTRS kit! The kit with adapters and 340s is 1200 quid if I remember right.
Title: Re: ttrs brakes on mk5?
Post by: r5gtt on August 29, 2016, 07:08:57 pm
I found some adaptors for £120 so should be okay as I've used the similar on my brembo LCR for the tt and they were fine. I think I'll go smaller discs as per recommendations
Title: Re: ttrs brakes on mk5?
Post by: r5gtt on August 29, 2016, 07:21:40 pm
sitting in the boot right now  :jumping:
Title: Re: ttrs brakes on mk5?
Post by: Johnsy on August 29, 2016, 07:26:20 pm
I don't think they warp, I don't think it's possible to warp cast iron, it's more the standard TTRS discs are both the same hand/directional vanes so one side runs hotter than the other.which isn't ideal when pushing on, you'd probably never notice in a mk5 gti unless you track it.

The vagbremtechnic carriers that allow use of the 340mm TTS disc may seem a tad expensive but the TTS discs can be had for about £80 ( Brembo) a pair where as the the TTRS are north of £300.

I bought my kit bit by bit ,and I was lucky to find the vagbrem carriers and j-hooked discs lightly used locally on eBay for about £120 ( Bargain ) the seller thought they where warped after a trip to the ring,but what he was experiencing was probably pad deposits because Iv never any problems with them,

great upgrade

Title: Re: ttrs brakes on mk5?
Post by: Johnsy on August 29, 2016, 07:30:18 pm
I found some adaptors for £120 so should be okay as I've used the similar on my brembo LCR for the tt and they were fine. I think I'll go smaller discs as per recommendations

Not scare mongering but there are some pictures of the cheaper carriers bent/distorted some where . The vagbremtechnic jobbies are like £250 but atleast you get a quality product and HEL hoses are included which are £40-£50
Title: Re: ttrs brakes on mk5?
Post by: r5gtt on August 29, 2016, 11:00:57 pm
batt 1% I'm eating out with family :smiley:
Title: Re: ttrs brakes on mk5?
Post by: Johnsy on August 29, 2016, 11:40:03 pm
batt 1% I'm eating out with family :smiley:

Tut tut , it's a school night
Title: Re: ttrs brakes on mk5?
Post by: Andy on August 29, 2016, 11:45:48 pm
i looked at doing this conversion but i couldn,t be bothered trying to get hold of all the thingds you require as i justwaned to get it fitted so ended up with the forge kit
Title: Re: ttrs brakes on mk5?
Post by: r5gtt on August 30, 2016, 12:22:58 am
I don't think they warp, I don't think it's possible to warp cast iron, it's more the standard TTRS discs are both the same hand/directional vanes so one side runs hotter than the other.which isn't ideal when pushing on, you'd probably never notice in a mk5 gti unless you track it.

The vagbremtechnic carriers that allow use of the 340mm TTS disc may seem a tad expensive but the TTS discs can be had for about £80 ( Brembo) a pair where as the the TTRS are north of £300.

I bought my kit bit by bit ,and I was lucky to find the vagbrem carriers and j-hooked discs lightly used locally on eBay for about £120 ( Bargain ) the seller thought they where warped after a trip to the ring,but what he was experiencing was probably pad deposits because Iv never any problems with them,

great upgrade
You can warp the discs as my LCR ones were when I bought them thinking what a bargain full set up for £325. I'll see how it goes as ive got bigger problems re snapped nipped drilled and hidden with tissue. Here's me thinking calipers are painted hence the tissue in thr nipple holes but just looked at them 20 mintutes ago 1150pm  Aug 30th and ones fu**** along with rough pistons.  :signLOL: Here's how to not grab a bargain lol
If only this site was as easy to upload pics as FB or instagram as it takes forever and a day  :doh:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1374.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag433%2FSandy1786%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F20160829_234134.jpg&hash=19dd6f8a07dda2a85fe330d39fcb28a4485665cc)

Title: Re: ttrs brakes on mk5?
Post by: r5gtt on August 30, 2016, 12:24:16 am
i looked at doing this conversion but i couldn,t be bothered trying to get hold of all the thingds you require as i justwaned to get it fitted so ended up with the forge kit
I missed out on a forge set £600 as I forgot I could pay him with paypal  :doh: now I'm buggered with these lol  :signLOL:
Title: Re: ttrs brakes on mk5?
Post by: Johnsy on August 30, 2016, 08:00:08 am
I don't think they warp, I don't think it's possible to warp cast iron, it's more the standard TTRS discs are both the same hand/directional vanes so one side runs hotter than the other.which isn't ideal when pushing on, you'd probably never notice in a mk5 gti unless you track it.

The vagbremtechnic carriers that allow use of the 340mm TTS disc may seem a tad expensive but the TTS discs can be had for about £80 ( Brembo) a pair where as the the TTRS are north of £300.

I bought my kit bit by bit ,and I was lucky to find the vagbrem carriers and j-hooked discs lightly used locally on eBay for about £120 ( Bargain ) the seller thought they where warped after a trip to the ring,but what he was experiencing was probably pad deposits because Iv never any problems with them,

great upgrade
You can warp the discs as my LCR ones were when I bought them thinking what a bargain full set up for £325. I'll see how it goes as ive got bigger problems re snapped nipped drilled and hidden with tissue. Here's me thinking calipers are painted hence the tissue in thr nipple holes but just looked at them 20 mintutes ago 1150pm  Aug 30th and ones fu**** along with rough pistons.  :signLOL: Here's how to not grab a bargain lol
If only this site was as easy to upload pics as FB or instagram as it takes forever and a day  :doh:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1374.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag433%2FSandy1786%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F20160829_234134.jpg&hash=19dd6f8a07dda2a85fe330d39fcb28a4485665cc)

http://www.stoptech.com/technical-support/technical-white-papers/-warped-brake-disc-and-other-myths
Title: Re: ttrs brakes on mk5?
Post by: r5gtt on August 30, 2016, 10:35:50 am
I'll have a read tonight thanks
Title: Re: ttrs brakes on mk5?
Post by: mvb12 on August 30, 2016, 01:15:57 pm
I wouldn't worry about all this warped disc talk. i doubt you would drive hard enough to get it upto temps to cause such issues.

people always banging on about the discs warping, but how many people had this issue on the Mk5? i didn't and i know a fair few people
that have this set up with no issues of warping at all.
Title: Re: ttrs brakes on mk5?
Post by: r5gtt on August 30, 2016, 06:51:30 pm
I usually send this to people if asked about bedding in, it's a little blurry and sideways but you get the gist.

I'm not really worried about the warping tbh. I'm just pissed off with what I've been sold  :signLOL:

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