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Title: Stupid DSG question ?
Post by: Talidan on September 19, 2016, 12:34:25 pm
This might seem really stupid but bear with me please trying to get my head around something.

So your sat at a uphill junction a traditional automatic you have a torque convertor that will hold your car and creep with a bit of acceleration and your not wearing any components.

In a dsg car it's twin clutch so you get to the same junction and your holding on the junction, will it not be wearing the clutches away is it not the same as sat riding the clutch in a manual and eventually the clutch would go.

Can this happen with DSG gearboxes or am I missing something ?

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Title: Re: Stupid DSG question ?
Post by: Lucastheone92 on September 19, 2016, 12:54:59 pm
Hi mate,

I was also wondering this myself and stumbled across this video by engineering explained (awesome guy and knows his stuff)


Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Stupid DSG question ?
Post by: dronners on September 19, 2016, 01:16:17 pm
the clutches are designed to slip in certain scenario's it is good practice to leave a gap. but the clutches can take it. it takes a fair bit to wear them out
Title: Re: Stupid DSG question ?
Post by: Talidan on September 19, 2016, 02:22:11 pm
That video kind of explained, do vw dsg boxes fully disengage the clutch when your foots on the break does anyone know ?

Also because I'm thinking of buying a dsg golf what sort of mileage can you expect to replace clutch packs?

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Title: Re: Stupid DSG question ?
Post by: Paradox1 on September 19, 2016, 02:46:35 pm
That video kind of explained, do vw dsg boxes fully disengage the clutch when your foots on the break does anyone know ?

Also because I'm thinking of buying a dsg golf what sort of mileage can you expect to replace clutch packs?

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The clutch packs are pretty robust. Ive only known of people changing them on higher mileage cars running silly power.
In other words, dont worry about it
Title: Re: Stupid DSG question ?
Post by: pudding on September 19, 2016, 03:00:47 pm
This might seem really stupid but bear with me please trying to get my head around something.

So your sat at a uphill junction a traditional automatic you have a torque convertor that will hold your car and creep with a bit of acceleration and your not wearing any components.

In a dsg car it's twin clutch so you get to the same junction and your holding on the junction, will it not be wearing the clutches away is it not the same as sat riding the clutch in a manual and eventually the clutch would go.


Oh but you are because traditional torque converter autos also use clutches  :wink:

Traditional autos and DSG are very similar, except for the torque converter (aka fluid flywheel) on the former.

It's excessive heat and load that kills clutches, both in autos and manuals.   
Title: Re: Stupid DSG question ?
Post by: Dave J on September 19, 2016, 10:39:46 pm
That video kind of explained, do vw dsg boxes fully disengage the clutch when your foots on the break does anyone know ?

Also because I'm thinking of buying a dsg golf what sort of mileage can you expect to replace clutch packs?

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Yes - believe the DSG disengages the clutch when you are stopped. However, I don't like how the DSG slips the clutch into 2nd most of the time in traffic above 5mph, so I leave it in manual and let 1st gear take the work it should do...!! I know they are hardy boxes, but it seems 2nd takes more drive than first gear does in DSG auto mode...! I might be wrong..., but just my take on it!
Title: Re: Stupid DSG question ?
Post by: ROH ECHT on September 19, 2016, 11:07:52 pm
I wouldn't be too concerned. Mine has 131k miles on it. I have over 330bhp and 363 lb*ft, and it runs a 12.8s 1/4 mile, and I've used launch control many many times on the road and the track...which does allow clutch slippage before fully engaged and still it works as it should.