MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: croak2012 on October 06, 2016, 11:30:00 pm
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I'm going to upgrade my halogens to xenons so just wondering what bulb setup / vcds setup you guys have and recommend ?
thanks
Ian
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http://www.newvwparts.com/auto-parts/2007/volkswagen/gti/base-trim/2-0l-l4-gas-engine/electrical-cat/headlamp-components-scat/?part_number=1k6941039b
If this doesn't help you figure the bulb situation...I can try.
As far as the vcds setup...wuhchumean?? I run my fogs as DRL's and have the inner halogens set to flash-to-pass...and fogs to stay on with high beams.
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http://www.newvwparts.com/auto-parts/2007/volkswagen/gti/base-trim/2-0l-l4-gas-engine/electrical-cat/headlamp-components-scat/?part_number=1k6941039b
If this doesn't help you figure the bulb situation...I can try.
Hi roh excvt - from american forum haha ,....As far as the vcds setup...wuhchumean?? I run my fogs as DRL's and have the inner halogens set to flash-to-pass...and fogs to stay on with high beams.
thats exactly what I mean haha - some yt vids I have watched they mention changinbg drl setup etc... Also I mean what brand of bulb ... ie what light color and brand. e.g . osram intense blue , nightbreakers ,etc. are fogs not illegal as drl in uk
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... also I know you're from the usa mkv forum haha so the law concerning drl might be different in uk but not sure.... I would love to know if anybody knows?...
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When I had genuine xenons I had osram night breakers in full beam, quantum d2s bulbs in dipped and led in side light. Ive done the flash to pass mod so when lights are off and u flash, only halogen flashes, and when lights are on and you flash, only the shutter opens
Now I've got depo ones, got a yellow bulb in full beam, 5000k bulb in dipped and led side light
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When I had genuine xenons I had osram night breakers in full beam, quantum d2s bulbs in dipped and led in side light. Ive done the flash to pass mod so when lights are off and u flash, only halogen flashes, and when lights are on and you flash, only the shutter opens
Now I've got depo ones, got a yellow bulb in full beam, 5000k bulb in dipped and led side light
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This flash to pass mod.....
I have aftermarket projectors fitted and when I flash full beam (with headlight off) the old halogen bulbs flash, but if headlights are on at night the shutter opens in the projector and they flash as well as the hold halogen full beam bulbs. I take it the mod you're mentioning changes this so at night when headlights are on the car only uses the xenon projectors to flash and bypasses the halogen?
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When I had genuine xenons I had osram night breakers in full beam, quantum d2s bulbs in dipped and led in side light. Ive done the flash to pass mod so when lights are off and u flash, only halogen flashes, and when lights are on and you flash, only the shutter opens
Now I've got depo ones, got a yellow bulb in full beam, 5000k bulb in dipped and led side light
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This flash to pass mod.....
I have aftermarket projectors fitted and when I flash full beam (with headlight off) the old halogen bulbs flash, but if headlights are on at night the shutter opens in the projector and they flash as well as the hold halogen full beam bulbs. I take it the mod you're mentioning changes this so at night when headlights are on the car only uses the xenon projectors to flash and bypasses the halogen?
Correct, I had to do a tweak in VCDS . But it only works on OEM xenons. This is how its set up in the USA Golfs
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flash to pass is great had it enabled on my ed30 but the cluster beeping at me every time i opened the door :fighting:
my current golf i have not even wired up the bi xenons :grin:
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flash to pass is great had it enabled on my ed30 but the cluster beeping at me every time i opened the door :fighting:
my current golf i have not even wired up the bi xenons :grin:
Yeah it gets annoying, but I think only if the keys are left in the ignition
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When I had genuine xenons I had osram night breakers in full beam, quantum d2s bulbs in dipped and led in side light. Ive done the flash to pass mod so when lights are off and u flash, only halogen flashes, and when lights are on and you flash, only the shutter opens
Now I've got depo ones, got a yellow bulb in full beam, 5000k bulb in dipped and led side light
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This flash to pass mod.....
I have aftermarket projectors fitted and when I flash full beam (with headlight off) the old halogen bulbs flash, but if headlights are on at night the shutter opens in the projector and they flash as well as the hold halogen full beam bulbs. I take it the mod you're mentioning changes this so at night when headlights are on the car only uses the xenon projectors to flash and bypasses the halogen?
Correct, I had to do a tweak in VCDS . But it only works on OEM xenons. This is how its set up in the USA Golfs
Oh so I won't be able to on my aftermarket xenons?
Ah well. Maybe it's not a bad thing having double the full beams going off at once :grin: lights up the road real good in pitch black Country lanes.
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When I had genuine xenons I had osram night breakers in full beam, quantum d2s bulbs in dipped and led in side light. Ive done the flash to pass mod so when lights are off and u flash, only halogen flashes, and when lights are on and you flash, only the shutter opens
Now I've got depo ones, got a yellow bulb in full beam, 5000k bulb in dipped and led side light
Sent from my SM-G928F using Tapatalk
This flash to pass mod.....
I have aftermarket projectors fitted and when I flash full beam (with headlight off) the old halogen bulbs flash, but if headlights are on at night the shutter opens in the projector and they flash as well as the hold halogen full beam bulbs. I take it the mod you're mentioning changes this so at night when headlights are on the car only uses the xenon projectors to flash and bypasses the halogen?
Correct, I had to do a tweak in VCDS . But it only works on OEM xenons. This is how its set up in the USA Golfs
Oh so I won't be able to on my aftermarket xenons?
Ah well. Maybe it's not a bad thing having double the full beams going off at once :grin: lights up the road real good in pitch black Country lanes.
Yeah because your shutters arent controlled by the shutter wires from the CECM, it wont work
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When I had genuine xenons I had osram night breakers in full beam, quantum d2s bulbs in dipped and led in side light. Ive done the flash to pass mod so when lights are off and u flash, only halogen flashes, and when lights are on and you flash, only the shutter opens
Now I've got depo ones, got a yellow bulb in full beam, 5000k bulb in dipped and led side light
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thanks, sounds like a good set up I take it your yellow bulb is something like Nokya Stage 1 Hyper Yellow H7 and any can bus error free led from ebay?
flash to pass is great had it enabled on my ed30 but the cluster beeping at me every time i opened the door :fighting:
my current golf i have not even wired up the bi xenons :grin:
is it a bit of hassle to wire it up?
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@croak2012 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=17131)
Yes its those Nokya ones. looks good as it matches the yellow laminx tint i done on the fogs.
Wiring it is easy if youve done it before lol. Just get it routed through the bulkhead, take off the under glove box foam and a few plastic panels, run it to the cecm, unclip plugs A and D, and i think its pin 5 on plug A and pin 6 on plug D.
Working on the cecm is the trickiest as its really tight space
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@croak2012 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=17131)
Yes its those Nokya ones. looks good as it matches the yellow laminx tint i done on the fogs.
Wiring it is easy if youve done it before lol. Just get it routed through the bulkhead, take off the under glove box foam and a few plastic panels, run it to the cecm, unclip plugs A and D, and i think its pin 5 on plug A and pin 6 on plug D.
Working on the cecm is the trickiest as its really tight space
good to know - I have bookmarked retrofit xenon "how to guide" that is floating about- so will probably go ahead and wire it in at same time as installing xenons... if you have yellow fogs light bulbs surely you don't need laminx too?
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@croak2012 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=17131)
Yes its those Nokya ones. looks good as it matches the yellow laminx tint i done on the fogs.
Wiring it is easy if youve done it before lol. Just get it routed through the bulkhead, take off the under glove box foam and a few plastic panels, run it to the cecm, unclip plugs A and D, and i think its pin 5 on plug A and pin 6 on plug D.
Working on the cecm is the trickiest as its really tight space
good to know - I have bookmarked retrofit xenon "how to guide" that is floating about- so will probably go ahead and wire it in at same time as installing xenons... if you have yellow fogs light bulbs surely you don't need laminx too?
nah my fogs were normal halogen bulbs, couldnt find/afford yellow bulbs at that time.
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http://www.newvwparts.com/auto-parts/2007/volkswagen/gti/base-trim/2-0l-l4-gas-engine/electrical-cat/headlamp-components-scat/?part_number=1k6941039b
If this doesn't help you figure the bulb situation...I can try.
Hi roh excvt - from american forum haha ,....As far as the vcds setup...wuhchumean?? I run my fogs as DRL's and have the inner halogens set to flash-to-pass...and fogs to stay on with high beams.
thats exactly what I mean haha - some yt vids I have watched they mention changinbg drl setup etc... Also I mean what brand of bulb ... ie what light color and brand. e.g . osram intense blue , nightbreakers ,etc. are fogs not illegal as drl in uk
I think it's worth a go using aftermarket bulbs for the xenon...if they don't last...switch to a better quality or oem. Be good to know which brand is the oem supplier, right?
I use Nokya yellow bulbs for both my fogs and halogens...so when I flash to pass it is more noticeable. I also added yellow Lamin-x film to the fog lenses for more intensity of the yellow projection.
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... also I know you're from the usa mkv forum haha so the law concerning drl might be different in uk but not sure.... I would love to know if anybody knows?...
Yes...but you can swap out the settings like if going to a gtg or club run or even a track day. Copy the old and new coding onto a word document and you can swap them out quite easily.
I give each coding a "description: enter coding"...copy + paste coding into vcds. I do think I was told once by someone there that fog's as drl was not legal. :stupid:
One setting I have been stumped with, and likely not possible...is a setting to set certain lights to flash. I've seen this and even on a mk7 GTI here...but not figured out if a mk5 can be done.
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http://www.newvwparts.com/auto-parts/2007/volkswagen/gti/base-trim/2-0l-l4-gas-engine/electrical-cat/headlamp-components-scat/?part_number=1k6941039b
If this doesn't help you figure the bulb situation...I can try.
Hi roh excvt - from american forum haha ,....As far as the vcds setup...wuhchumean?? I run my fogs as DRL's and have the inner halogens set to flash-to-pass...and fogs to stay on with high beams.
thats exactly what I mean haha - some yt vids I have watched they mention changinbg drl setup etc... Also I mean what brand of bulb ... ie what light color and brand. e.g . osram intense blue , nightbreakers ,etc. are fogs not illegal as drl in uk
I think it's worth a go using aftermarket bulbs for the xenon...if they don't last...switch to a better quality or oem. Be good to know which brand is the oem supplier, right?
I use Nokya yellow bulbs for both my fogs and halogens...so when I flash to pass it is more noticeable. I also added yellow Lamin-x film to the fog lenses for more intensity of the yellow projection.
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I really like the set up you have - I'm def going to run the wire into cecm for bi xenon! so i can use flash to pass too. I love the look of those nokya - Not 100 percent sure about the lamin x but I have not seen it in person so no idea - just worried if it looks a bit cheap? - maybe I'm thinking of that cheap film on ebay haha... copying and pasting code - sounds like great advice! thanks!
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Everyone that has questioned the yellow fogs or my smoked side mirror signals reply "really?" when I say they are laminated with lamin-x. Thought it funny when this was posted: http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,30806.msg1054879.html#msg1054879
I have smoked mirror markers but they are also covered with Lamin-x charcoal.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/car-parts-accessories/volkswagen/auction-1165358406.htm
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haha , brilliant, so they look like the real thing! I say the more you improve the red black contrast the better! - that's why your black and red gti looks so nice... I have to look into lamin x a bit further...
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Yeah...not cheesy looking at all. I've had all of it on for 6 years and doesn't fade, lift(...and I use my 2700psi gas powered pressure washer for every wash), or go dull on its surface. Just treat it with whatever you apply to the rest of the car...wax or quick detail mist.
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Morimoto 6000K bulbs in my OEM xenons. I believe they're actually a US brand. Recommended by EM Tuning - I'm sure the guy there (Trups) knows more about VAG lighting than anyone else in the UK!
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Haven't seen this done on the Golf yet, but morimoto also do demon eyes (remote operated colour changing LEDs that go in the projector). It means splitting the lights to get to the projectors though! Exactly what Trups did on my RS4:
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those 6 k are not too blue? they look nice... demon eyes! I'm sure I saw some on youtube - if you search for "mk5 mk4 r32 angel headlights"... ?