Post by: K9 on October 20, 2016, 12:35:07 pm
What should i do now? one side walk is now secured with the lonk end bolt and one 16mm bolt to the subframe.
anyone else been in this situation before?
Post by: rich83 on October 20, 2016, 01:02:12 pm
Post by: K9 on October 20, 2016, 01:48:25 pm
Is I snapped one and had to drive it for about 50 miles :-Si have been driving for like 3 weeks and ni problems. but it's bugging me
Post by: Paradox1 on October 20, 2016, 04:29:40 pm
Is I snapped one and had to drive it for about 50 miles :-Si have been driving for like 3 weeks and ni problems. but it's bugging me
Id complain to whoever supplied the kit.
Think they will need drilling out tbh
Post by: K9 on October 20, 2016, 04:31:25 pm
It's the oem vw bolt that snapped when trying to remove itIs I snapped one and had to drive it for about 50 miles :-Si have been driving for like 3 weeks and ni problems. but it's bugging me
Id complain to whoever supplied the kit.
Think they will need drilling out tbh
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Post by: ROH ECHT on October 20, 2016, 07:43:21 pm
You likely need to use an easy-out/bolt extractor to remove the broken bolt if unable to get at it if not protruding outside the subframe. Means drilling a hole in the broken bolt...but first need to make a centered dimple in the end that's broken with a small grinding bit before the final drill bit is used...for being easier. :wink:
Post by: Stupots on October 21, 2016, 08:24:33 am
This vid gives you the rough idea, but it will dissolve a drill bit without touching Aluminium, so it's quite strong stuff :)
Cheers and good luck
Stu
Post by: grey golfster on October 21, 2016, 08:45:35 am
Is that what he's rubbing on to a heated seized bolt?
Post by: Juliand on October 21, 2016, 08:57:17 am
Post by: Stupots on October 21, 2016, 12:10:11 pm
Is that an Alum bar, like those used for shaving?
Is that what he's rubbing on to a heated seized bolt?
Yep, one in the same :)
Post by: K9 on October 21, 2016, 04:18:44 pm
Post by: dazza on July 02, 2021, 10:14:40 pm
Went to change the front control arm bushings and one of the stretch bolts snapped on removal.
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Vice grips slip off.
Welded a nut on and put the impact gun (electric) on it which did nothing
In the end it snapped again
I could weld a larger nut and really fill it with weld or drill out?
Drilling out would be a pita under the car i suppose i could remove the subframe?
Post by: pudding on July 02, 2021, 10:32:41 pm
The red one is bad news if it means replacing the captive nut in the chassis rail.
If the yellow ones...... I would just get new subframe parts from ebay personally, and run a tap through the threads before fitment, and use anti-seize grease on the new bolts. I think I paid £50 for the whole lot when my dogbone mount bolt did the same thing. I couldn't be bothered with welding/drilling/swearing/shouting.
Post by: brian_badonde on July 02, 2021, 10:59:51 pm
don't even bother trying to drill them, new console section can be had for 25 quid from the breakers.I sheared mine when I installed my superpro kit. It happens because the tips of the bolts galvanically corrode and seize up on their way back out through the console. You can try corrosion inhibitor on the new bolts for future disassembly but it won't help much as it's chemical reaction. Only sure fire way to avoid it is to wire brush the tips before you remove them.
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Post by: pudding on July 02, 2021, 11:37:30 pm
I've been using the silver coloured anti-seize grease for years on the MK5 and the chassis/brake/wheel bolts all just plop off with ease :smiley:
Post by: dazza on July 03, 2021, 01:08:02 am
Things are not that cheap here, I will see what i can find.
And the complete subframe needs removing?
And a lot more stretch bolts to be replaced?
Post by: brian_badonde on July 03, 2021, 07:09:03 am
On the stretch bolts, you could maybe get away with not replacing the ARB/rack ones but I would definitely replace the body mounting ones.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210703/40ea083196933bd61b01a7564bee66ce.jpg)
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Post by: chimp400 on July 03, 2021, 07:46:15 am
Probably going to take some heat on that bolt to free it off.
I’d replace the subframe stretch bolts personally, the rest will probably be ok if your not disturbing them.
It’s a slippery slope when you get it down though thinking what else you should change, I went for super pro arb bushes and the vibra technics dog bone subframe bush.
Post by: dazza on July 03, 2021, 03:06:35 pm
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the bolt is well and truly stuck i welded a bolt heated and hit with the impact gun > bolt snapped again
Then i drilled all the way though heated and used easy out still would not come out.
I will order a new one.
Can I rebuild and torque the control arms on the bench?
Post by: chimp400 on July 03, 2021, 05:30:27 pm
Post by: dazza on July 03, 2021, 07:16:09 pm
So I need to order 4 more subframe bolts
2 * N90823501
2 * N91039801
1 * N10528602 for the new console.
4 * N10579702 steering rack
4 * N10570601 ARB
1 * N10204808 dog bone
1 * N10454801 dog bone
Are any other bolts one use?
Post by: chimp400 on July 03, 2021, 07:22:57 pm
6 subframe, 4 rack, 4 arb bush, 3 dog bone.
Got them all from Vag bolts on eBay.
There is a good list here midway down the first page.
https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=117626.0
Post by: LC5F on July 03, 2021, 11:15:38 pm
Drilling out would be a pita under the car i suppose i could remove the subframe?
Yes - but the subframe is made out of 3 parts centre and 2 outers, last time I checked it was £15 for replacement side part on ebay, no need to drill.
I managed to snap off 3 of those bolts, it was the white powder that bound up the thread solid, even with the subframe in an oven at 200C it wouldn't budge with good penetrating oil or wax melted onto the thread.
For console bolts - Febi do a good kit or if this kit seems good value doing both sides - brand is Topran - terrible name, but great cheap parts: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/224355416883?hash=item343c9ffb33:g:1R0AAOSw7kdgLQQj (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/224355416883?hash=item343c9ffb33:g:1R0AAOSw7kdgLQQj)
Post by: dazza on July 12, 2021, 09:52:49 pm
Post by: LC5F on July 13, 2021, 09:30:19 pm
Can I rebuild and torque the control arms on the bench?
Yes to bench tighten
When I did mine with DSG - even with the dogbone disconnected - there was not enough room to get a torque wrench + socket in between the bolt head and the mechatronix
Ended up dropping the subframe just enough to tighten
If you want to get a head start, you can partially re-assemble the subframe in the Golf ready to add the side part of the subframe.
Lastly, don't forget to bolt in the cable tray on the top of the Left side... its close to the inner CV and can rub
Post by: dazza on July 15, 2021, 11:09:12 am
I found this cap on the floor and cant remember where its from? :scared: :rolleye:
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Post by: brian_badonde on July 15, 2021, 11:20:39 am
Don't remember seeing one of those. Having said that, the caps on my axle stand release handles look like that. Worth checking your tools maybe
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