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Title: Engine oil
Post by: mkmg76 on November 03, 2016, 10:20:30 am
Hello all,

I've seen this topic covered a multitude of times but just before biting the bullet and ordering some of the highly recommended Millers Nanodrive 5w40, I wanted to double check that I'm absolutely buying the correct oil. Please see the link below to confirm.

http://millersoilsireland.ie/cfs-5w40-nt/

Thanks for any advice.

Mick.  :happy2:
Title: Re: Engine oil
Post by: pudding on November 03, 2016, 10:27:47 am
That's the stuff.

I would fill the engine with a funnel that has a gauze in it.   There have been reports of the additives dropping out of the oil and forming clumps at the bottom of the tub.  The gauze will trap those clumps.  You don't want them going into the engine.

Title: Re: Engine oil
Post by: mkmg76 on November 03, 2016, 10:37:19 am
That's the stuff.

I would fill the engine with a funnel that has a gauze in it.   There have been reports of the additives dropping out of the oil and forming clumps at the bottom of the tub.  The gauze will trap those clumps.  You don't want them going into the engine.

Excellent, thank you for the advice regarding the additives, much appreciated, i'll definitely do that.

Now, just to swallow €180.00 for oil for free delivery.  :sick:
Title: Re: Engine oil
Post by: lukemk5gti on November 03, 2016, 10:54:44 am
That's the stuff.

I would fill the engine with a funnel that has a gauze in it.   There have been reports of the additives dropping out of the oil and forming clumps at the bottom of the tub.  The gauze will trap those clumps.  You don't want them going into the engine.

Excellent, thank you for the advice regarding the additives, much appreciated, i'll definitely do that.

Now, just to swallow €180.00 for oil for free delivery.  :sick:

If you're buying that much oil you should read up on storage conditions.

I'm sure it's fine but major temperature fluctuations over long periods of time in a still container may cause settling out of some particles.
Title: Re: Engine oil
Post by: pudding on November 03, 2016, 12:04:54 pm
Yeah I think the Subaru community first discovered it.  IIRC, someone had a big lump of particles block the oil pump pick up which caused some engine damage.

For that reason I've steered clear of it and use ester without bits in it, from Motul or Silkolene etc.

I know it's a small risk, but not one I'm prepared to take on my daily!

Title: Re: Engine oil
Post by: fab5freddy on November 03, 2016, 01:25:16 pm
That's the stuff.

I would fill the engine with a funnel that has a gauze in it.   There have been reports of the additives dropping out of the oil and forming clumps at the bottom of the tub.  The gauze will trap those clumps.  You don't want them going into the engine.

Excellent, thank you for the advice regarding the additives, much appreciated, i'll definitely do that.

Now, just to swallow €180.00 for oil for free delivery.  :sick:

Mick, look up opie oils on eBay, you'll get it a damn sight cheaper with the excange rate
Title: Re: Engine oil
Post by: SurreyED30 on November 03, 2016, 01:52:41 pm
£79.18/€89 is a lot of money for 5 L of millers, I paid less than £55 last month when i had mine changed  :surprised:
Title: Re: Engine oil
Post by: Rossimac on November 03, 2016, 02:19:00 pm
£79.18/€89 is a lot of money for 5 L of millers, I paid less than £55 last month when i had mine changed  :surprised:

Any links?
Title: Re: Engine oil
Post by: SurreyED30 on November 03, 2016, 04:24:25 pm
ill dig my receipt out from the garage done all the work when the oil was changed at the same time mate
Title: Re: Engine oil
Post by: grey golfster on November 03, 2016, 06:18:00 pm
Even at "only" £55, I have to say I'm astounded...filter out the clumps of additive in your "top quality"  race oil, so that it dosent block engine oilways...  :surprised:

And its a known problem... :stupid:

Better buy a cheap food blender and run your Millers thru that before you use it  :signLOL:

What am I missing here?
Title: Re: Engine oil
Post by: fab5freddy on November 03, 2016, 07:11:57 pm
Even at "only" £55, I have to say I'm astounded...filter out the clumps of additive in your "top quality"  race oil, so that it dosent block engine oilways...  :surprised:

And its a known problem... :stupid:

Better buy a cheap food blender and run your Millers thru that before you use it  :signLOL:

What am I missing here?

Your missing the bit where you shouldn't believe all you read on the tinternet  :signLOL:

Just cause one bloke read it on a forum.... I've been using and stockpiling Millers for a few years now and have had no problems, i don't think one post should taint a quality product
Title: Re: Engine oil
Post by: grey golfster on November 04, 2016, 06:43:34 pm
Your missing the bit where you shouldn't believe all you read on the tinternet  :signLOL:

...said a bloke on the internet  :thinking:

I have no axe to grind either way, and am genuinely shocked. Don't take me the wrong way please.

I don't buy Millers, primarily for VFM reasons. Put anotyer way- I'm too mean.
Title: Re: Engine oil
Post by: Flyingscotsman on November 04, 2016, 07:28:04 pm
On my old bike forum, the guys used to swear by Halfrods semi-synth bike oil When I got my gti bought some Halfrods VW/Audi 5w30 for top ups. Most on here seem to prefer branded options.
I'm currently using Millers nanodrive. Can't say I notice any performance difference but it does use less of the 5w40 than it did 5w30 (it's Stage 2 mapped).
Title: Re: Engine oil
Post by: fab5freddy on November 04, 2016, 07:42:52 pm
Your missing the bit where you shouldn't believe all you read on the tinternet  :signLOL:

...said a bloke on the internet  :thinking:

I have no axe to grind either way, and am genuinely shocked. Don't take me the wrong way please.

I don't buy Millers, primarily for VFM reasons. Put another way- I'm too mean.

No problem buddy, i've not taken you wrong at all  :grouphug:, the point i was trying to make was, Is it a known problem? :surprised: I don't believe it is, i tried googling last night and could find nothing on the subject.
Title: Re: Engine oil
Post by: Flyingscotsman on November 04, 2016, 07:59:21 pm
Yeah I think the Subaru community first discovered it.  IIRC, someone had a big lump of particles block the oil pump pick up which caused some engine damage.

For that reason I've steered clear of it and use ester without bits in it, from Motul or Silkolene etc.

I know it's a small risk, but not one I'm prepared to take on my daily!


If you found particle blocking the oil pick-up how would you know they were from the oil and not from another source (carbon deposits, metal particles from engine etc).

Just playing devils advocate, no axes to grind
Title: Re: Engine oil
Post by: grey golfster on November 04, 2016, 09:18:54 pm
Your missing the bit where you shouldn't believe all you read on the tinternet  :signLOL:

...said a bloke on the internet  :thinking:

I have no axe to grind either way, and am genuinely shocked. Don't take me the wrong way please.

I don't buy Millers, primarily for VFM reasons. Put another way- I'm too mean.

No problem buddy, i've not taken you wrong at all  :grouphug:, the point i was trying to make was, Is it a known problem? :surprised: I don't believe it is, i tried googling last night and could find nothing on the subject.

ONLY as a result of your last...
Perhaps your Google is gummed up too?  :signLOL:

From "millers oils additive drop-out"
Mine found this - first page:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-general-1/1036743-millers-oil-must-read.html&ved=0ahUKEwjy4qamgJDQAhUCwBQKHeBsC7sQFghRMAQ&usg=AFQjCNFXPJMZS_hGE40FqkkcZWLMGk31AA&sig2=YS2uGZE4yYCZ8-FuOx329w

Could this be the guy?
Not for a moment saying its kosher...

The vast majority of other googke hits appear oil salesmen/ads of one kind or another.
I'm still not convinced, either way...

....Old fart now spends 10 mins trying to add downloaded emoticon for "sceptical"...and fails!




Title: Re: Engine oil
Post by: Johnsy on November 04, 2016, 09:21:26 pm
On my old bike forum, the guys used to swear by Halfrods semi-synth bike oil When I got my gti bought some Halfrods VW/Audi 5w30 for top ups. Most on here seem to prefer branded options.
I'm currently using Millers nanodrive. Can't say I notice any performance difference but it does use less of the 5w40 than it did 5w30 (it's Stage 2 mapped).

Same here, consumption is ddowwn over the 5w-30 so less top ups= better VFM.

Back in my GTiR days we used slikolene pro s (now fuch)

Subarus do have a habit of eating there own engines so that explain the clumps lol
Title: Re: Engine oil
Post by: fab5freddy on November 04, 2016, 09:32:50 pm
 :ashamed: Ok googling fail.  :laugh:

Not to throw fuel on the fire, i'm just playing devils advocate, but the oil in that facebook article isn't what i use in my car, and not what any of this community would use either, 5w40 CFS Nano tech, different oil me thinks...