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Title: What do these spacers fit on
Post by: r5gtt on November 18, 2016, 04:53:53 pm
I bought these off some low life off the FB tfsi forum and he's blocked me and disappeared so obviously sold me something that doesn't fit the mk5 platform and lied to me.

They are hubcentric 5x112 and fit onto the hub but don't sit all the way because of the lip inside that's preventing it from going all the way. :sad1:

Any ideas ?
Thanks
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Title: Re: What do these spacers fit on
Post by: AJP on November 18, 2016, 05:51:00 pm
Might not be much help this, but I had the same issue on the old mk4. Fronts were no issue, but at the back the bit the spacers centred on protruded about 5-8mm too far. I tackled it by removing the little hub cap and taking it down about 10mm with the angle grinder. Hardly a great solution, I couldn't refit the caps, but the alloys had snug centre caps of their own and ultimately I wouldn't be getting debris finding its way in. It worked.
Title: Re: What do these spacers fit on
Post by: r5gtt on November 18, 2016, 07:58:39 pm
Yeah I've removed the caps on rear but stil too far out and didn't want to damage anything with grinding TBH.
Fronts don't fit either so I'm either going to have to find someone to mill them down or buy a new set as I have four and don't really want to throw them in the bin  :sad1:
Title: Re: What do these spacers fit on
Post by: slix on November 18, 2016, 09:09:30 pm
Looks like they just haven't been machined correctly
Title: Re: What do these spacers fit on
Post by: r5gtt on November 18, 2016, 10:45:16 pm
Could well be that but why did that pri** sell them to me saying they fit the mk5  :thinking:

I'll find a machine shop who can cut them down.

Thanks
Title: Re: What do these spacers fit on
Post by: absolute on November 18, 2016, 11:19:21 pm
He sounds like a lovely man
Title: Re: What do these spacers fit on
Post by: r5gtt on November 18, 2016, 11:43:12 pm
He sounds like a lovely man
the tramp who sold them to me is more like scum tbh  :thinking:
Title: Re: What do these spacers fit on
Post by: ROH ECHT on November 19, 2016, 06:43:19 pm
Was going to suggest a machine shop....but you're on the right track. Shouldn't be that bad a fitment though and obviously not correct. All you can do is compare the cost of machining to replacements.
Title: Re: What do these spacers fit on
Post by: r5gtt on November 19, 2016, 08:52:54 pm
Cheers man, if it's £30-40 quid then I'll get them done as just need an old school workshop with a lath or similar.

Thanks
Title: Re: What do these spacers fit on
Post by: slix on November 19, 2016, 11:05:31 pm
Arnt those around £40 to buy new anyway?
Title: Re: What do these spacers fit on
Post by: r5gtt on November 20, 2016, 12:13:00 am
Cheap enough yes but I paid £70 for two sets and the knob told me they fit the mk5 so I thought brand new why not. Then six weeks after purchase I decide to try one out and to my amazement it didn't fit front or rear as shown in the pic so now looking to get all four machined and if not then will need to buy two more sets for a further £50 odd quid but trying not to spend more money if these can be machined  :smiley:
Title: Re: What do these spacers fit on
Post by: flashp on November 20, 2016, 12:42:04 am
If you take out the material indicated by the arrow down to a suitable depth...
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...do you lose too much wall thickness between the arrows shown here:
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Or would the cut not go that deep?

I take it the od is a good fit for the wheel?
Title: Re: What do these spacers fit on
Post by: r5gtt on November 20, 2016, 01:24:59 am
@flashp (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=5579) thank you showing the arrows in the pictures so now I can explain what needs to be done in order for them to fit perfectly as they fit around the hub and yes the oval diameter is perfect. If they are taken down about 5mm I will still have plenty on the outer rim in picture two as these are 15mm spacers so the inner lip can be machined down some more :smiley:

Thanks
Title: Re: What do these spacers fit on
Post by: slix on November 20, 2016, 09:16:20 am
Just be careful it doesn't weaken the inner ring as could just snap when putting wheels on and off etc.
Title: Re: What do these spacers fit on
Post by: The Red Warrior on November 20, 2016, 10:07:34 am
I'd machine them for you for free, but alas I'm on the other side of the world.
If your lucky you might find some machine shop with some car enthusiast who works there. They might do the job as a homer for a dozen beer. Should take a proficient turner no more than 30 minutes to do all four. 
Title: Re: What do these spacers fit on
Post by: r5gtt on November 20, 2016, 01:01:27 pm
Just be careful it doesn't weaken the inner ring as could just snap when putting wheels on and off etc.
thanks @slix (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=14819) hopefully should be done as all the other spacers I've seen are fully flush onthe inside where it fits the job so I don't see any issues arising from shaving a bit of alloy off. It's just like having flat spacers on but with a hubcentric part welded to it.  :happy2:

I'd machine them for you for free, but alas I'm on the other side of the world.
If your lucky you might find some machine shop with some car enthusiast who works there. They might do the job as a homer for a dozen beer. Should take a proficient turner no more than 30 minutes to do all four. 
cheers mate, there's a local place to me that has lots of old school machinery and may just be able to help me out so I'll pop around there on Monday and see if they can do this sort of thing.
Title: Re: What do these spacers fit on
Post by: ROH ECHT on November 24, 2016, 07:37:29 pm
With 15mm spacers...you should be able to get enough depth inside to not affect the outer hub-centric lip.
Title: Re: What do these spacers fit on
Post by: r5gtt on November 24, 2016, 08:04:28 pm
With 15mm spacers...you should be able to get enough depth inside to not affect the outer hub-centric lip.
Thanks mate I totally forgot about these as things have happened so haven't really been concentrating on them. Cheers for the heads up  :happy2: