MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Sat Nav and Car Audio => Topic started by: V6nutter on November 27, 2016, 07:46:41 am
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Would anyone know why the buttons don't light up?
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Ive pulled the CAN information from the unit
Speed Signal 0km/h
CAN Reversing off
KL15 on
KL58 d 94%
S-Kontact on
Mute bit off
Analog mute off
Mute Value 0
Do these look ok?
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Just been quoted £700 to fix the unit. Can't believe nobody else on here has had this issue.
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Just been quoted £700 to fix the unit. Can't believe nobody else on here has had this issue.
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What is the unit version and how did it happen? Just sudenly stopped to work? There is no part in the unit for 700.
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These are the details.
Was told it had to be sent to France...
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Is it star button or speaker on the top? next to the injection button? and how did it happen? Also, do you have vcds or similar tool to check can connection? It uses different can connection and for example if you have polar fis or other thing that uses the same can connection line and if you unplug it, the cans will not work, illumination aswell. Secondly, can controller is the part of the main board, but I haven't seen any unit that would die naturally, it is possible after accident or water damage. The main board is around 200 plus labour.
If you are near leeds, I could put the unit on the desk and using special software do the diagnostic, check illumination etc.
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It has the speaker icon. So go figure this. I just go to the car and unlock it all the lights come on including the lights on the RNS. However they go off when you turn ignition on. I'll get a video up if I can. Thanks for your replies, I'm in Nottingham so not a million miles away.
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Check out this video..
If you can help I'd be most grateful
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So now I've been told SW4020 is not compatible with H03 and could cause damage to the LCD board I've been told to downgrade to 3810.
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I had a modded 4020 with an H03 unit and an A hardware.
I would revert the firmware to try, but if you go older than 3800 you will repartition the hard drive and lose your maps
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http://www.r32oc.com/topic/47578-how-to-downgrade-rns-510-firmware/
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I had a modded 4020 with an H03 unit and an A hardware.
I would revert the firmware to try, but if you go older than 3800 you will repartition the hard drive and lose your maps
I will use 3810 - I think I have D Hardware (1T0035680D) H03 unit...
Do you know of a link where I can download the firmware?
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I bet you have an A unit. When the firmware gets updated, it falsely updates the unit part number you see. It'll be on a sticker on the side, but you would have to remove it. A true D would have a star at the top right.
I haven't had one of these for a couple of years now, but I will look for you
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It's the one with the speaker and an i
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Ive found these links...
Volkswagen RNS 510 Firmware Upgrade version 3810 / 3812 / 3814 / 3816 / 3818 – Details
Update
Download Location 1: RNS_510_FW_3810_update.rar – 485.37MB
(RNS_510_FW_3810_update.nrg – 671,329KB
Update Modified (Regensburg syndrome, MP3 VBR Resume for revision A, B and C head units)
Download Location 1: RNS_510_FW_3810_update_modified.rar – 485.45MB
(RNS_510_FW_3810_update_modified.iso – 671,670KB)
Download Location 2: 3810a_noru.rar – 485.43MB
Which one would I need?
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That's exactly the page I was about to post. Best to avoid a firmware modded to avoid battery drain. You'll need to find the procedure for starting a downgrade.
You might lose maps and music on the hard drive doing this, but got to be worth the risk at this point. If this doesn't work, then go back to 2760 but that will 100% wipe your maps.
It is definitely not a D unit so 4020 is about as high as it could go.
Good luck
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It is A,B or early C version. Use modified file. I think it is Can issue. So wires or faulty mainboard.
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It's in a April 08 car. I've downloaded both files. I'll use the modified file. If it is the LCD board been quoted £120 to replace it.
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Mine is the a version and got mine updated with new maps on,not sure what firm ware it's on
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Mine is the a version and got mine updated with new maps on,not sure what firm ware it's on
Press and hold the setup button to get to the hidden menu. Will tell you there.
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It's in a April 08 car. I've downloaded both files. I'll use the modified file. If it is the LCD board been quoted £120 to replace it.
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It is not the LCD board, illumination works on your video, dissapears later.
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It's in a April 08 car. I've downloaded both files. I'll use the modified file. If it is the LCD board been quoted £120 to replace it.
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It is not the LCD board, illumination works on your video, dissapears later.
So all points to firmware?
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Not a lot happening
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What's SWL image?
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Great it's just hanging now! Not doing didly squat
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Can this be done via SD card
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Can this be done via SD card
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Nope, so have you rewritten firmware or not? Your pics are the first steps of rewritting the firmware.
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Nope not doing anything. The file I'm using is .iso currently (the modified file) But there is also a .nrg file. I'll try that.
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Right so I have a .iso disc and now a .nrg disc. The .nrg disc doesnt do anything ... What am I doing wrong?
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The .iso seems to get so far until it says software download - source activted, searching for SWL image...
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So now I have an NRG Disc Image. Do I press setup+eject+i then insert the disc?
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Got there in the end!
Just hope it does the trick
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Failed first time
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Keeps failing. All modules update 100% except gateway which gets to 12% then flicks to an error screen SWL error.. Have to reboot.
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Are you using a CD or DVD?
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Using CD, won't recognize a DVD
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Just done some research (here: http://www.my-gti.com/3374/volkswagen-rns-510-firmware-upgrade-and-information) and it looks like you need to use the recovery disc to get out of the SWL error
http://www.my-gti.com/1986/volkswagen-rns-510-swl-recovery-cd-for-gateway-error-202-or-boot-problems
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Thanks Mike.
But it does boot, it just doesnt load the software correctly - every time ive tried I get a SWL error, on one of the components..
Ive tried CD and DVD, but I cant get a successful load! Its driving me insane!
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Have you tried the non modified firmware? Pretty sure the VUC part of the firmware is the modified bit
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I've tried everything it's a joke! Nothing works I'm gonna put a hammer through it
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Can someone please help me??
Ive burned 4 x DVD and 5 x CD and not one of them work. Im now worse off, the unit wont work just says wont boot, insert SWL CD.
HELP ME
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I need to take it to a professional - anyone on here repair these bloody things?
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I've used the recovery disc. Now it's working but the buttons still not light up and now I've lost the maps!!! Grrrrrr
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You did well for sticking it out, it can be frustrating. I always found a CD better for firmware.
So are you at 2760 or 3800 now?
Sorry to say you are about to hit another issue with reloading of the maps. The A unit has a smaller hard drive so you need to reload a modified firmware from the rnsfirmware site - look for 3800-4020 versions with a 60/35/5% split (the newer maps won't load due to insufficient space on a non storage-modded firmware).
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This is the information from the unit as it stands.
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HW Vehicle: 0xC201 – HW Radio: 0004
C6/C7
1T0 035 680 B (1T0035680B)
Firmware version (when hardware last produced): 1300
Firmware version (unmodified releases): 1300
Firmware version (modified releases): 5269
I think this is my unit...
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Looks like 5238 is the best firmware
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Someone on here who can fix this for me ?
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5238 won't even load. Trying 4020 again. Give me strength
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I'm done with it. I've got it working on 3810. No maps now installed and still the buttons don't light up. Can anyone recommend a decent repair house?
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You'll not be able to go higher than 4020 on a B unit and you'll need the 70/25/5% firmware to fit the newer maps on due to the small hard drive capacity.
I don't know anyone who repairs the guts of them
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Props cheaper getting another head unit than getting it repaired
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http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-VW-RNS510-LCD-Sat-Nav-Navigation-mfd3-hdd-Golf-mk5-mk6-Passat-Scirocco-/182274979580?hash=item2a706f76fc%3Ag%3ABToAAOSwDlxU3NfG&_trkparms=pageci%253A1c95c87f-b8dd-11e6-9e23-005056b68976%257Cparentrq%253Ac19d1beb1580a3588330173bffe4ba8a%257Ciid%253A2
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^^£400 for a B unit is way too much money these days
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Found a chap who will repair for £200
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You'll not be able to go higher than 4020 on a B unit and you'll need the 70/25/5% firmware to fit the newer maps on due to the small hard drive capacity.
I don't know anyone who repairs the guts of them
I had a version A RNS-510 fitted from factory on my Ed. 30. I was able to upgrade the firmware to the modified version 4120 with 60/35/5 and V12 maps. Then I successfully upgraded to modified version 5238. It worked really good with that firmware as Josi and others advise. I then sold it because the CD lenses was much more sensible than newer radios.
So, for me, most of the times, the trouble with upgrading the firmware and maps is due to the dirt in the CD lenses. Cleaning it with a cleaning CD or opening the radio and directly cleaning the lenses can solve the issues with upgrading.
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I did a lot of updates on my A when I had it, but couldn't get it to take 4120, highest was 4020.
Just noticed I wrote 70/25/5 on the last message, that was meant to read 60/35/5.
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Found a chap who will repair for £200
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Personally I think you are better off buying a much newer version (with the star button top right) for £300-400 and selling yours on, even with your light issue you would get decent money. You can get maps from various sources to get yours back to normal, as such.
But that's just me.
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Yeah, not worth fixing for 200 when the unit like yours cost around 250. Better sell this one for the spares, you will get 100-150 and get a LED one.
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Ok thanks. Are new units just plug and play?
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Found one for £450 including the Bluetooth module.. Where does the module fit?
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Devils advocate. What if it's not the unit at fault?
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What else could it be? Would VCDS help?
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You can consider fitting the radio in another car. If your car came with the RNS-510 from factory your CAN is a rev L, which is compatible with newer firmwares, so that shouldn't be the problem. Just writing this because if the radio doesn't know when the car lights are turned on, it won't turn the lights on of its buttons.
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Terminal 58 is getting a signal..
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Right I'm going to buy a new unit.
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Right I'm going to buy a new unit.
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Yeah think that will be the best option and to save your sanity :signLOL:
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New RNS fitted. Working perfectly
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New RNS fitted. Working perfectly
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that is good news :happy2: