MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Cosmetic/Interior Modifications => Topic started by: danishmkvgti on January 26, 2010, 08:58:20 pm
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Hi,
I have fitted the mk 6 MFSW and the 1K0-953-549-CH steeringwheel controlmodule to get the buttons to work, also the C slipring is fitted and the buttons works.
BUT i've lost the communication to the C/C ( cruise control ) :sad1:
My thoughts are, do the 1K0-953-549-CH module support C/C????
Could a possibility be to replace the mk 5 c/c stalk with one from the mk 6 partnr. 1K0 953513 G (9B9 for black) ??? do the mk 6 fit in the mk 5?
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Ps i have Darren working on this too :notworthy:
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Darren has been though vag com on my car and couldn't see the problem. Like I said in the other thread if you do come up with a solution I would be interested! :happy2:
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i've almost bought a stalk for the mk 6 :happy2: let's see how it goes :drinking:
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its to do with the mk6 not using a slip ring right?
wish i knew this before i bought my mk6 wheel! :driver:
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Apparently the CH module is compatible with the C slipring, and supports Cruise. However I am not sure if the MK5 Cruise is activated by the same method.
Type I (Compatible to Slip Ring: 1K0-959-653, 1K0-959-653-A)
Lowline
Part Numbers: 1K0-953-549
Supported Features: None
Midline
Part Numbers: 1K0-953-549-A
Supported Features: Cruise Control, Trip Computer
Highline
Part Numbers: 1K0-953-549-B, 1K0-953-549-D, 1K0-953-549-AD, 1K0-953-549-AM
Supported Features: Cruise Control, Trip Computer, Multi-Function Steering Wheel
Type II (Compatible to Slip Ring 1K0-959-653-C and 1K0-959-653-D with Steering Angle Sensor)
Lowline
Part Numbers: 1K0-953-549-E, 1K0-953-549-AE, 1K0-953-549-BM
Supported Features: None
Midline
Part Numbers: 1K0-953-549-F, 1K0-953-549-AF, 1K0-953-549-AH, 1K0-953-549-AP, 1K0-953-549-BC, 1K0-953-549-BF, 1K0-953-549-BN, 1K0-953-549-BR, 1K0-953-549-CA
Supported Features: Cruise Control, Trip Computer
Highline
Part Numbers: 1K0-953-549-G, 1K0-953-549-AG, 1K0-953-549-AK, 1K0-953-549-AL, 1K0-953-549-AQ, 1K0-953-549-BD, 1K0-953-549-BK, 1K0-953-549-CC
Supported Features: Cruise Control, Trip Computer, Multi-Function Steering Wheel
Type III (Compatible to Slip Ring 1K0-959-653-C and 1K0-959-653-D without Steering Angle Sensor)
Lowline
Part Numbers:
Supported Features: None
Midline
Part Numbers: 1K0-953-549-CM, 1K0-953-549-CN
Supported Features: Cruise Control, Trip Computer
Highline
Part Numbers: 1K0-953-549-CD, 1K0-953-549-CF, 1K0-953-549-CH
Supported Features: Cruise Control, Trip Computer, Multi-Function Steering Wheel
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you have to take some of these VCDS lists with a pinch of salt sometimes.
For example, i know for a fact that AK and AL are not compatible with cruise, highline and MFSW. It cost me £280 that list! haha!
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that is strange Jay. Usually quite accurate.
have you uploaded 2680?
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you have to take some of these VCDS lists with a pinch of salt sometimes.
For example, i know for a fact that AK and AL are not compatible with cruise, highline and MFSW. It cost me £280 that list! haha!
Jay, I have the "AK" module, cruise, MFSW and highline, and they all seem to work on mine (except the menu button on the MFSW). :confused:
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Ive got Dana looking into this, Jake could you supply me with the coding on your CH controller, by the way the cruise stalk on the 2005 golf is exactly the same has the 2011 golf exact same part numbers
Darren
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Ive got Dana looking into this, Jake could you supply me with the coding on your CH controller, by the way the cruise stalk on the 2005 golf is exactly the same has the 2011 golf exact same part numbers
Darren
Coding i believe ended up being "0000732", the mk. 6 stalk has a different exterior than the mk. 5
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Jake that could be the stalk for the automatic distance control which is on the same stalk has C/C??
part number for that is 1K0 953 513H
Darren
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you have to take some of these VCDS lists with a pinch of salt sometimes.
For example, i know for a fact that AK and AL are not compatible with cruise, highline and MFSW. It cost me £280 that list! haha!
Jay, I have the "AK" module, cruise, MFSW and highline, and they all seem to work on mine (except the menu button on the MFSW). :confused:
That could be the coding. What are you on at the moment?
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Stu I think Andrew has sort of got it on the nail from what I spoke to him reg this,
basically the 2005 golf came out and the optional mfsw has a different layout on the buttons and the layout didn't make use of the menu button instead it had a source button that went to the stereo I would presume??
Any way Im thinking that cos of this the loom to the instrument cluster is different from the steering controller, and to make use of the menu button I would say we need to look at the wiring from the steering controller...I had a look today at mine and there is loads of spaces available on the connector??
Darren
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Ahh ok, I was just wondering if this part of the coding was correct -
0xxxx?x: Board Computer / Cruise Control System (CCS)
0 = w/o Board Computer and w/o Cruise Control System (CCS)
1 = with Board Computer and w/o Cruise Control System (CCS)
2 = w/o Board Computer and with Cruise Control System (CCS)
4 = with Board Computer and with Cruise Control System (CCS)
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Ive tried all different combo's of coding but it still wont activate the menu button :sad1:
Darren
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Ok mate, that's cool. I've seen the mistake made before, if you have a MFSW you need -
0 = w/o Board Computer and w/o Cruise Control System (CCS)
or
2 = w/o Board Computer and with Cruise Control System (CCS)
Many people confuse the Board Computer option because they have highline etc :happy2:
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Just gonna have a look on Elsawin and see if there is a difference?
Darren
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Not to go too far off topic, but my MFSW coding, CC installed and all working is below:
Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AQ HW: 1K0 953 549 AQ
Component: J0527 636 0070
Coding: 0003042
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
Component: E0221 002 0010
No fault code found.
ps car has poverty spec midline too.
What is the Board Computer referring to?
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The board computer is the highline/midline. You normally code for it if you don't have MFSW and use the right stalk buttons to navigate the menus. With a MFSW you wouldn't normally have it coded.
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Ahh, that explains why I can still use the wiper stalk to scroll, as well as the SW buttons. I think i will just leave as is.
cheers Stu. This VCDs lark is addictive.
:happy2:
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hmm, so far no one has cracked this nut :sad1:
I'm willing to buy the mk 6 stalk but it'll be a shot in the dark. No VW superheads that has a solution?? :confused:
I really need the C/C as i use it to shift between my APR maps, wife uses standard in these slippery times and the fun program is for me :wink:
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I just checked, don't know if it has any influence on the C/C problem but i have this CAN GATEWAY 1K0 907 530 F, and according to VW Flensburg the latest revision is Q
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I just checked, don't know if it has any influence on the C/C problem but i have this CAN GATEWAY 1K0 907 530 F, and according to VW Flensburg the latest revision is Q
I have s and it still doesnt work so might not be anything to do with that. :drinking:
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As Darren said, I've recently changed my later style steering wheel buttons (the ones with the star and menu buttons) to the earlier style ones, as my Golf is a early 2005 model year. Again as Darren correctly said, the older style buttons now have a "source" button the left hand set. Using this scrolls through, FM, Internal CD, CD Changer (IPod), and Aux (if switched on).
Both phone buttons on the left set work perfectly with my parrot bluetooth kit. The right hand stalk has volume up and down as well as track up/down and fast forward. The cool thing is that I don't have to be in the Audio menu of the DIS to use the track up/down/seek buttons. they are always active no matter what screen I am in. this is due to the fact that the functions on the DIS are now totally controlled by the wiper stalk and NOT the steering wheel buttons.
Cruise control works perfectly just as before the button swap too.
Works perfectly for me.
Sorry DanishMKVGTI, probably doesn't help you with your problem.
Cheers
Andrew
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As Darren said, I've recently changed my later style steering wheel buttons (the ones with the star and menu buttons) to the earlier style ones, as my Golf is a early 2005 model year. Again as Darren correctly said, the older style buttons now have a "source" button the left hand set. Using this scrolls through, FM, Internal CD, CD Changer (IPod), and Aux (if switched on).
Both phone buttons on the left set work perfectly with my parrot bluetooth kit. The right hand stalk has volume up and down as well as track up/down and fast forward. The cool thing is that I don't have to be in the Audio menu of the DIS to use the track up/down/seek buttons. they are always active no matter what screen I am in. this is due to the fact that the functions on the DIS are now totally controlled by the wiper stalk and NOT the steering wheel buttons.
Cruise control works perfectly just as before the button swap too.
Works perfectly for me.
Sorry DanishMKVGTI, probably doesn't help you with your problem.
Cheers
Andrew
Thx for the thought, what control box do you have the BK? These things that you describe goes for the mk 5 MFSW, and the problem i have is after fitting the CH box in correlation with the mk 6 MFSW :sad1:
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No, I have an earlier version "AK" -swapped over from my much older version when I fitted the MFSW in Dec 2008 if you are talking about the steering controller.
If you are referring to the Can gateway controller then mines really old - it's a 1K0 907 530 E !
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No, I have an earlier version "AK" -swapped over from my much older version when I fitted the MFSW in Dec 2008 if you are talking about the steering controller.
If you are referring to the Can gateway controller then mines really old - it's a 1K0 907 530 E !
yup, the steering controller, i tried with the BK version, but then the buttons couldn't work
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Hi Jake just waiting for Dana @ RT to get back to me.
Darren
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Well finally i got around to fitting the Mk 6 C/C stalk ,and i have to inform the audience that.............................................................................
IT WORKS :pomppomp: :congrats: :star:
aparently they have changed the way the stalk communicates with the controller, maybe to improve the weak C/C contact in the mk 5 stalk, but frankly i don't care, 'cause it freakin works again :jumping: :jumpmove:
partnr. 1K0 953513 G (9B9 for black) mk 6 C/C stalk
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Yeeaaaahhhhhh! :congrats: :happy2:
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Jake Ive just been looking on ETKA and the older mk5 stalk has now been superseded by the newer mk6 stalk :happy2: well done mate I think JPC will be happy cos he was on about it earlier.
Darren
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Absolutely brilliant! Cheers for that mate ;)