MK5 Golf GTI

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Title: Mk7 Key
Post by: Hendry on January 20, 2017, 04:00:05 pm
I like the look of the flip key for the mk7 Golf, looks smart and more up to date than the mk5 key, question is, if I was to go and buy a brand new one for a mk7 with the blade cut to my key number, would the immobiliser transponder and the remote part for the central locking code up to a mk5 ok, i.e. Is it the same system as the mk5 just in a nicer looking key or have VW completely changed the system and made the keys different in some technical way rather than just cosmetically that would stop them working in a mk5?

I also like the idea of being able to change the metal part that a key ring loops onto to 1 which has GTi embossed into it, nice touch!
Title: Re: Mk7 Key
Post by: 4ndy on January 20, 2017, 05:06:19 pm
Bentley fobs are available and look much nicer :happy2:
Title: Re: Mk7 Key
Post by: r5gtt on January 20, 2017, 05:22:38 pm
Some people just have too much money to waste on a key fob to show the lads at the pub that I've fmgot a Ferrari key fog but I drive a golf  :signLOL: :doh:
Title: Re: Mk7 Key
Post by: Hendry on January 22, 2017, 07:42:04 pm
No interest in a Bentley key I'm afraid, I just want a VW key but the mk5 one looks sh*t IMO and mines all worn so needing a new one anyway as I like 2 keys for my car just in case, and the mk7 key looks smart and more modern.
Title: Re: Mk7 Key
Post by: The Red Warrior on July 22, 2017, 02:43:59 am
I've just done exactly what you're wanting to do @Hendry (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=10048)
I got a couple of the Mk7 key fobs from eBay and a couple of the genuine GTI logo metal parts.

The blade from the mk5 needs filing down slightly to fit into the rotating part on the mk7 as it's 0.2mm too thick. You can of course get the mk7 blade cut at a key cutters to match your original key. I did this after first grinding and filing the mk5 blade but wasn't happy with the fit. If you take your time though you should be fine.

All the internals from the mk5 fit into the mk7 fob perfectly.
Once you've got the mk5 key open you need to cut off the melted over tabs that hold the circuit board in place. I found that a section of blade from a Stanley knife/exacto blade, (dunno what you English folk call them) is perfect. You want the snap off blade type and then just use one section snapped off.
To get the transponder out you have to prise off the vw logo to reveal a screw which you undo to open the top half of the fob.
Then to get the transponder out: it is nestled in a slot which is then melted over to capture it. I wasn't sure the Stanley blade method would work and I didn't want to break the glass vile that it's in. So I used a blade type end on my soldering iron to push down and melt away the sides of the slot which it sits in. I guess you could also heat up the tip of a small flat head screwdriver and use that. Then the glass vile can easily be pried out.
Disassembly of the top part of the mk7 fob is basically the same. You'll see the slot for the glass vile. Once in just melt the edges over a bit to hold it in place.

The rest is all straight forward.

If you're getting the keys from eBay I found a seller that sells them with a vw logo sticker as well that goes over the screw holding the top part together. Most don't seem to come with that.
Title: Re: Mk7 Key
Post by: mkmg76 on July 24, 2017, 12:59:10 pm
I've just done exactly what you're wanting to do @Hendry (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=10048)
I got a couple of the Mk7 key fobs from eBay and a couple of the genuine GTI logo metal parts.

The blade from the mk5 needs filing down slightly to fit into the rotating part on the mk7 as it's 0.2mm too thick. You can of course get the mk7 blade cut at a key cutters to match your original key. I did this after first grinding and filing the mk5 blade but wasn't happy with the fit. If you take your time though you should be fine.

All the internals from the mk5 fit into the mk7 fob perfectly.
Once you've got the mk5 key open you need to cut off the melted over tabs that hold the circuit board in place. I found that a section of blade from a Stanley knife/exacto blade, (dunno what you English folk call them) is perfect. You want the snap off blade type and then just use one section snapped off.
To get the transponder out you have to prise off the vw logo to reveal a screw which you undo to open the top half of the fob.
Then to get the transponder out: it is nestled in a slot which is then melted over to capture it. I wasn't sure the Stanley blade method would work and I didn't want to break the glass vile that it's in. So I used a blade type end on my soldering iron to push down and melt away the sides of the slot which it sits in. I guess you could also heat up the tip of a small flat head screwdriver and use that. Then the glass vile can easily be pried out.
Disassembly of the top part of the mk7 fob is basically the same. You'll see the slot for the glass vile. Once in just melt the edges over a bit to hold it in place.

The rest is all straight forward.

If you're getting the keys from eBay I found a seller that sells them with a vw logo sticker as well that goes over the screw holding the top part together. Most don't seem to come with that.

Excellent, any link to that particular ebay seller please pal?
Title: Re: Mk7 Key
Post by: 4ndy on July 24, 2017, 05:33:26 pm
https://www.custom-keys.co.uk/harlequin-keys
Title: Re: Mk7 Key
Post by: mkmg76 on July 24, 2017, 05:40:34 pm
https://www.custom-keys.co.uk/harlequin-keys

Thank you kind sir.  :happy2:
Title: Re: Mk7 Key
Post by: SI-R32 on July 24, 2017, 06:26:13 pm
so let me get this right, your sending your key to an address from a cheap looking website with the immobilizer chip in (which can be read), the key (which can be copied) and your return address of where your car is every night? nothing sounds dodgy here does it
Title: Re: Mk7 Key
Post by: fab5freddy on July 24, 2017, 06:42:20 pm
so let me get this right, your sending your key to an address from a cheap looking website with the immobilizer chip in (which can be read), the key (which can be copied) and your return address of where your car is every night? nothing sounds dodgy here does it

I've used this company twice Si, totally legit.
Title: Re: Mk7 Key
Post by: The Red Warrior on July 28, 2017, 08:09:26 am
I've just done exactly what you're wanting to do @Hendry (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=10048)
I got a couple of the Mk7 key fobs from eBay and a couple of the genuine GTI logo metal parts.

The blade from the mk5 needs filing down slightly to fit into the rotating part on the mk7 as it's 0.2mm too thick. You can of course get the mk7 blade cut at a key cutters to match your original key. I did this after first grinding and filing the mk5 blade but wasn't happy with the fit. If you take your time though you should be fine.

All the internals from the mk5 fit into the mk7 fob perfectly.
Once you've got the mk5 key open you need to cut off the melted over tabs that hold the circuit board in place. I found that a section of blade from a Stanley knife/exacto blade, (dunno what you English folk call them) is perfect. You want the snap off blade type and then just use one section snapped off.
To get the transponder out you have to prise off the vw logo to reveal a screw which you undo to open the top half of the fob.
Then to get the transponder out: it is nestled in a slot which is then melted over to capture it. I wasn't sure the Stanley blade method would work and I didn't want to break the glass vile that it's in. So I used a blade type end on my soldering iron to push down and melt away the sides of the slot which it sits in. I guess you could also heat up the tip of a small flat head screwdriver and use that. Then the glass vile can easily be pried out.
Disassembly of the top part of the mk7 fob is basically the same. You'll see the slot for the glass vile. Once in just melt the edges over a bit to hold it in place.

The rest is all straight forward.

If you're getting the keys from eBay I found a seller that sells them with a vw logo sticker as well that goes over the screw holding the top part together. Most don't seem to come with that.

Excellent, any link to that particular ebay seller please pal?

The listing has changed slightly and doesn't specifically mention the logo now, but this is the link to the same item and same seller. Mine came with black and silver logos not blue and white like in this listing.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VW-Schl%C3%BCssel-Umbausatz-Golf-4-5-Polo-auf-VW-Golf-VII-7-design-Klappschl%C3%BCssel-key/132215523279?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

Of slight note, after one day of use I noticed the two screws that hold the blade in place had started to come loose despite doing them up tight. I applied some Loctite to them and tightened them back up and they've stayed tight for almost a week now. I used Loctite 248. Brilliant stuff in the easy to use 'lip stick'.

I forgot to mention also, if you're getting the genuine VW GTI lower metal piece, it uses a torx T6 to fasten it in place.
Title: Re: Mk7 Key
Post by: Colinspence on July 28, 2017, 09:25:22 pm
U.K. Ebay seller ...

http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Volkswagen-VW-Seat-Skoda-3-Button-Flip-Key-Fob-Case-fits-GOLF-MK7-Octavia-Cupra-/263012739862?nav=WATCHING_ACTIVE
Title: Re: Mk7 Key
Post by: Colinspence on August 02, 2017, 12:29:45 pm
http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Volkswagen-VW-Seat-Skoda-3-Button-Flip-Key-Fob-Case-fits-GOLF-MK7-Octavia-Cupra-/263012739862?nav=WATCHING_ACTIVE

Got this today, only took few days to arrive

Straight swap over the insides

Like said above need the blade cutting
But good for £8
Comes with battery and blue vw badge
Title: Re: Mk7 Key
Post by: splashalot on August 03, 2017, 02:40:52 am
http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Volkswagen-VW-Seat-Skoda-3-Button-Flip-Key-Fob-Case-fits-GOLF-MK7-Octavia-Cupra-/263012739862?nav=WATCHING_ACTIVE

Got this today, only took few days to arrive

Straight swap over the insides

Like said above need the blade cutting
But good for £8
Comes with battery and blue vw badge

Just to confirm - your mk5 key internals swap straight into this mk7 key fob? 

Did you have to disassemble the transponder and re-glue into the new fob?  Cheers.
Title: Re: Mk7 Key
Post by: Colinspence on August 03, 2017, 06:58:25 pm
Yer straight swap
And the little immobiliser thing I blue tacked into the new slot
Title: Re: Mk7 Key
Post by: Colinspence on August 03, 2017, 07:23:42 pm
The 3 button chip clips in one end and held on by screw the other end
Title: Re: Mk7 Key
Post by: Eighteen88 on August 16, 2017, 07:20:59 pm
I've tried doing this, however the green circuit board in my mk5 key fob is a totally different shape from the mk7 key??
Do I need to swap the circuit boards or is it just a case of putting the transformer from my mk5 key into my new key??
Title: Re: Mk7 Key
Post by: 4ndy on August 16, 2017, 09:36:48 pm
circuit board and transponder need to be swapped over. I got the MK7 blade cut 
Title: Re: Mk7 Key
Post by: Eighteen88 on August 16, 2017, 09:58:54 pm
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi67.tinypic.com%2Fidezwk.jpg&hash=0bf65aa9e994d9444f3dafe787ffc05cc9abb27d)

http://i67.tinypic.com/idezwk.jpg


The key on the left is from the mk5, as you can see it's a different shape from the one on the right for the mk7 and won't fit in its place??
Title: Re: Mk7 Key
Post by: Eighteen88 on August 16, 2017, 10:07:57 pm
Photo Added

https://ibb.co/bvBHKv
Title: Re: Mk7 Key
Post by: Colinspence on August 18, 2017, 04:43:41 pm
Did you buy a proper vw  mk7 key ?
Think you'll find the ones we bought are specially made after market ones made to fit the mk5 board ???
Title: Re: Mk7 Key
Post by: Eighteen88 on August 18, 2017, 04:48:07 pm
Did you buy a proper vw  mk7 key ?
Think you'll find the ones we bought are specially made after market ones made to fit the mk5 board ???

Think so mate, I bought it from eBay, can you post me a link for the one I need if possible?
Title: Re: Mk7 Key
Post by: Colinspence on August 18, 2017, 09:30:45 pm
http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Volkswagen-VW-Seat-Skoda-3-Button-Flip-Key-Fob-Case-fits-GOLF-MK7-Octavia-Cupra-/263012739862?nav=WATCHING_ACTIVE
 :happy2:
Title: Re: Mk7 Key
Post by: Trow81 on August 19, 2017, 08:29:05 am
Hi I got a mk7 upgrade key for my Eddie from Custom keys and can't fault it see pics

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170819/7ad23f30faa6ac90e162fa8841bf0a2d.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170819/28ed51716fc75003d9e35a71026d0669.jpg)


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Title: Re: Mk7 Key
Post by: GAMO on February 03, 2020, 10:40:51 am
Any idea whats happened to this company? clicked on the link and google search and nothing comes up
Title: Re: Mk7 Key
Post by: kam760 on February 04, 2020, 04:11:27 am
Try
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/142976546394 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/142976546394)
That's where I'm going to order mine from.
Title: Re: Mk7 Key
Post by: GAMO on February 04, 2020, 01:02:43 pm
Try
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/142976546394 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/142976546394)
That's where I'm going to order mine from.

Kinda sceptical of these ebay sellers. have you actually had one off them yet?

Also need a spare key made up so looking for someone that can code it as well
Title: Re: Mk7 Key
Post by: kam760 on February 04, 2020, 10:09:54 pm
I'm not sending the key so I'm not that worried. He'll send the shell, I'll swap the internals and then get the key cut. Perfect for me. Best part is with eBay guarantee if it doesn't fit or work, I can just return it.
Title: Re: Mk7 Key
Post by: GAMO on February 06, 2020, 09:07:37 pm
I'm not sending the key so I'm not that worried. He'll send the shell, I'll swap the internals and then get the key cut. Perfect for me. Best part is with eBay guarantee if it doesn't fit or work, I can just return it.

Fair enough. might give it a try as its only £7. Just need to find someone to code me a spare now!!