Post by: JoshJaggard on February 07, 2017, 06:02:18 pm
I am soon moving further away from work, so 350+ miles a week I will be expecting to do in total.
What is the fuel consumption realistically?
I really don't want to be having a diesel, as I think they're boring compared
Thank you
Post by: JoshJaggard on February 07, 2017, 06:31:17 pm
What do any of you think the price is like for a mk5 GTI (54) for around £5700, with 53k on the clock? In good condition all round?
Thanks
Post by: AJP on February 07, 2017, 09:47:57 pm
Post by: Scottr60 on February 07, 2017, 09:51:49 pm
Post by: JoshJaggard on February 07, 2017, 10:02:10 pm
35mpg average if you Take it easy
I can maintain 35mpg easily at motorway speed. They're really quite economical if you don't hoon it everywhere.Thank you, I really would like to get another one, as I loved every part about the car, just a shame I had to return the old one
Post by: JoshJaggard on February 07, 2017, 10:42:43 pm
I'm considering buying another mk5 GTI after having problems with my previous one,I only had my old one for a week or so, so unsure about the mpg overall
I am soon moving further away from work, so 350+ miles a week I will be expecting to do in total.
What is the fuel consumption realistically?
I really don't want to be having a diesel, as I think they're b
oring compared
Thank you
Post by: AJP on February 07, 2017, 10:43:23 pm
Don't be in a rush to buy. History is important, so any receipts for services, oil changes, belts, all build a picture of a car that's been looked after. In this sense a car with a few miles on it shouldn't put you off, as long as you know it's had the right maintenance at the right time.
I'm not sure what your exact budget is but you might find a better car for sale on here than the usual dealers and ebay chancers.
Post by: JoshJaggard on February 07, 2017, 11:12:30 pm
Don't let a bad one put you off. If you're in a position to buy again just chalk it down to experience and treat it as an advantage - that you now know what a bad one looks/drives like.My budget is around £6,000 max ideally
Don't be in a rush to buy. History is important, so any receipts for services, oil changes, belts, all build a picture of a car that's been looked after. In this sense a car with a few miles on it shouldn't put you off, as long as you know it's had the right maintenance at the right time.
I'm not sure what your exact budget is but you might find a better car for sale on here than the usual dealers and ebay chancers.
My insurance is still high, as I'm only 19 so would spend a little more, but along with the insurance ideally not much more
I am keen on another one as it was a lovely car to drive, and comfortable too.
Not sure how £5800 sounds for one with full leather, heated seats, 53k full service history? I'll have to check if the belt and water pump has been done though
Thanks
Post by: AJP on February 07, 2017, 11:39:31 pm
To be honest the market has changed a bit since I bought mine, but I do know that budget will get you a good one.Don't let a bad one put you off. If you're in a position to buy again just chalk it down to experience and treat it as an advantage - that you now know what a bad one looks/drives like.My budget is around £6,000 max ideally
Don't be in a rush to buy. History is important, so any receipts for services, oil changes, belts, all build a picture of a car that's been looked after. In this sense a car with a few miles on it shouldn't put you off, as long as you know it's had the right maintenance at the right time.
I'm not sure what your exact budget is but you might find a better car for sale on here than the usual dealers and ebay chancers.
My insurance is still high, as I'm only 19 so would spend a little more, but along with the insurance ideally not much more
I am keen on another one as it was a lovely car to drive, and comfortable too.
Not sure how £5800 sounds for one with full leather, heated seats, 53k full service history? I'll have to check if the belt and water pump has been done though
Thanks
Don't focus on one potential car right now. Draw up a list of potential cars. Ring them up, ask the usual questions, and if it doesn't sound quite right, move on. It helps to be a bit ruthless, and patient. Be prepared to walk away from 9 out of 10 cars you actually go to see.
It's so easy to get carried away and end up with the wrong car. Getting a good one takes a bit more time and graft.
Post by: rich83 on February 08, 2017, 08:49:30 am
Post by: Chris_R on February 08, 2017, 09:18:30 am
I'm considering buying another mk5 GTI after having problems with my previous one,
I am soon moving further away from work, so 350+ miles a week I will be expecting to do in total.
What is the fuel consumption realistically?
I really don't want to be having a diesel, as I think they're boring compared
Thank you
I do 120-130 miles in mine at the moment to work each day
I find it's nearer 30 MPG to be honest. That's around 20-25 miles each way on A/B roads and the other 40 on the M4. I don't hang about though as I leave very early and like to get ahead of as much of the rush hour as possible (due to passing through 3 major congestion areas each way).
Post by: JoshJaggard on February 08, 2017, 09:35:19 am
Is yours a DSG? Or a manual? I imagine it wouldn't actually make much difference, I'd be after a manual thoughI'm considering buying another mk5 GTI after having problems with my previous one,
I am soon moving further away from work, so 350+ miles a week I will be expecting to do in total.
What is the fuel consumption realistically?
I really don't want to be having a diesel, as I think they're boring compared
Thank you
I do 120-130 miles in mine at the moment to work each day
I find it's nearer 30 MPG to be honest. That's around 20-25 miles each way on A/B roads and the other 40 on the M4. I don't hang about though as I leave very early and like to get ahead of as much of the rush hour as possible (due to passing through 3 major congestion areas each way).
Post by: Oldy on February 08, 2017, 11:10:02 am
Don't be put off by the DSG box. I have this. Not got this because I am a man of advancing years, but to me its far better than the manual. More or less instant gear change and its quicker than the manual. You can out it in Drive and treat the car like a grand tourer or put it in Sport, use the paddles and come over all hooligan. Very happy days!
AJP is spot on. Take your to time. There are some really good GTIs out there. Good luck.
Post by: slix on February 08, 2017, 11:17:05 am
And no more than 32/35 on a long run.
I'm happy with that :)
Post by: pudding on February 08, 2017, 11:28:14 am
I get around 24/25 mpg around town in my mapped ed30.
And no more than 32/35 on a long run.
I'm happy with that :)
Yeah mine has been averaging 27mpg in the year or so it's been mapped.
I don't care about the cruise mpg because it will always be 30+ if you drive like a granny, which I don't, so it's irrelevant to me :smiley:
Post by: JoshJaggard on February 08, 2017, 11:37:45 am
Doesn't seem to bad for town driving, thanksI get around 24/25 mpg around town in my mapped ed30.
And no more than 32/35 on a long run.
I'm happy with that :)
Yeah mine has been averaging 27mpg in the year or so it's been mapped.
I don't care about the cruise mpg because it will always be 30+ if you drive like a granny, which I don't, so it's irrelevant to me :smiley:
Post by: JoshJaggard on February 08, 2017, 11:41:38 am
Mine is very similar to Chris_R. I have a round trip to and from the office of 400 miles a week. I live in the country so have a mix of back country lanes, main country A roads, motorway and town. I average 30 mpg and like Chris_R leave early in the morning to avoid motorway congestion (its being converted to a smart motorway with speed restrictions!).I'm hoping to find one this weekend, £5800 for one with 53k and full service history, but it is a dealer and I'm always weary buying from second hand car dealers, will see how it goes I guess! I will keep posted if I do make a purchase
Don't be put off by the DSG box. I have this. Not got this because I am a man of advancing years, but to me its far better than the manual. More or less instant gear change and its quicker than the manual. You can out it in Drive and treat the car like a grand tourer or put it in Sport, use the paddles and come over all hooligan. Very happy days!
AJP is spot on. Take your to time. There are some really good GTIs out there. Good luck.
Post by: pudding on February 08, 2017, 11:45:55 am
Doesn't seem to bad for town driving, thanksI get around 24/25 mpg around town in my mapped ed30.
And no more than 32/35 on a long run.
I'm happy with that :)
Yeah mine has been averaging 27mpg in the year or so it's been mapped.
I don't care about the cruise mpg because it will always be 30+ if you drive like a granny, which I don't, so it's irrelevant to me :smiley:
I don't know what the town mpg is as I never check it, but it will be awful, 18-22ish. I just check the overall average on the memory setting about once a month and it's always been 27mpg. Not bad for a 300hp B road blaster that is in boost often and averages 85-90mph cruise speed on the dual carriageways. The only time I'm ever under the speed limits is in heavy traffic, otherwise it's Mr Lead Foot everywhere.
Post by: JoshJaggard on February 08, 2017, 11:48:18 am
That's actually quite impressive consideringDoesn't seem to bad for town driving, thanksI get around 24/25 mpg around town in my mapped ed30.
And no more than 32/35 on a long run.
I'm happy with that :)
Yeah mine has been averaging 27mpg in the year or so it's been mapped.
I don't care about the cruise mpg because it will always be 30+ if you drive like a granny, which I don't, so it's irrelevant to me :smiley:
I don't know what the town mpg is as I never check it, but it will be awful, 18-22ish. I just check the overall average on the memory setting about once a month and it's always been 27mpg. Not bad for a 300hp B road blaster that is in boost often and averages 85-90mph cruise speed on the dual carriageways. The only time I'm ever under the speed limits is in heavy traffic, otherwise it's Mr Lead Foot everywhere.
Post by: pudding on February 08, 2017, 11:52:15 am
That's actually quite impressive consideringDoesn't seem to bad for town driving, thanksI get around 24/25 mpg around town in my mapped ed30.
And no more than 32/35 on a long run.
I'm happy with that :)
Yeah mine has been averaging 27mpg in the year or so it's been mapped.
I don't care about the cruise mpg because it will always be 30+ if you drive like a granny, which I don't, so it's irrelevant to me :smiley:
I don't know what the town mpg is as I never check it, but it will be awful, 18-22ish. I just check the overall average on the memory setting about once a month and it's always been 27mpg. Not bad for a 300hp B road blaster that is in boost often and averages 85-90mph cruise speed on the dual carriageways. The only time I'm ever under the speed limits is in heavy traffic, otherwise it's Mr Lead Foot everywhere.
Yeah I thought so. Same as my old R32, which had a lot less power and torque :smiley:
I wouldn't get too hung up on town mpg because it's terrible on all petrol engines.
Post by: JoshJaggard on February 08, 2017, 12:02:15 pm
Most of my driving will he B style roads and rural roads tbh,That's actually quite impressive consideringDoesn't seem to bad for town driving, thanksI get around 24/25 mpg around town in my mapped ed30.
And no more than 32/35 on a long run.
I'm happy with that :)
Yeah mine has been averaging 27mpg in the year or so it's been mapped.
I don't care about the cruise mpg because it will always be 30+ if you drive like a granny, which I don't, so it's irrelevant to me :smiley:
I don't know what the town mpg is as I never check it, but it will be awful, 18-22ish. I just check the overall average on the memory setting about once a month and it's always been 27mpg. Not bad for a 300hp B road blaster that is in boost often and averages 85-90mph cruise speed on the dual carriageways. The only time I'm ever under the speed limits is in heavy traffic, otherwise it's Mr Lead Foot everywhere.
Yeah I thought so. Same as my old R32, which had a lot less power and torque :smiley:
I wouldn't get too hung up on town mpg because it's terrible on all petrol engines.
So shouldn't be too bad! I can't bring myself to change to a diesel
Post by: Oldy on February 08, 2017, 02:15:15 pm
http://www.topgear.com/car-news/top-gear-heroes/top-gears-bargain-heroes-mk5-vw-golf-gti#1
Post by: mkmg76 on February 08, 2017, 03:11:53 pm
Coming from a 320cd BMW I'm feeling both the extra money required but also the lack of range. (My car is a bog standard DSG.) 60euro used to get me about 600miles at motorway speeds in the BMW (not holding back) but the GTI will only get me about 300miles for the same money and speeds. So, in the beginning I was getting about 30mpg sitting at motorway speeds but recently as a test I've stopped using speed and started using RPM as a marker. I sit the car at 2500rpm (about 65mph) on cruise (6th) and let the car do it's thing.
It's jumped to 450 miles in range and about 35mpg which is a huge increase. Instead of refilling on a Wednesday evening, i'm getting a full extra day and filling up on a Thursday. (the final 50 miles is in the lower quarter or less of the tank so never used).
For comparison, my TME Evo 6 used to get 280 miles from a full tank (40 litres) if you drove it like a pensioner (which you'd never do), or about 200miles if it was driven normally, (160miles if driven "properly"). I used to fill that thing 3 times a week for the same drive to work and back at 50quid a fill, it was worse than a mortgage!! :grin:
All in all the current MPG situation is not bad for a turbo engined petrol sports hatch. :happy2:
HTH
Post by: AJP on February 08, 2017, 05:55:22 pm
I'm in a similar boat as others here, I do 500 miles/week to work and back. 5 days a week, 50 miles each way.Well that's completely put me off the idea of ever owning an Evo...!
Coming from a 320cd BMW I'm feeling both the extra money required but also the lack of range. (My car is a bog standard DSG.) 60euro used to get me about 600miles at motorway speeds in the BMW (not holding back) but the GTI will only get me about 300miles for the same money and speeds. So, in the beginning I was getting about 30mpg sitting at motorway speeds but recently as a test I've stopped using speed and started using RPM as a marker. I sit the car at 2500rpm (about 65mph) on cruise (6th) and let the car do it's thing.
It's jumped to 450 miles in range and about 35mpg which is a huge increase. Instead of refilling on a Wednesday evening, i'm getting a full extra day and filling up on a Thursday. (the final 50 miles is in the lower quarter or less of the tank so never used).
For comparison, my TME Evo 6 used to get 280 miles from a full tank (40 litres) if you drove it like a pensioner (which you'd never do), or about 200miles if it was driven normally, (160miles if driven "properly"). I used to fill that thing 3 times a week for the same drive to work and back at 50quid a fill, it was worse than a mortgage!! :grin:
All in all the current MPG situation is not bad for a turbo engined petrol sports hatch. :happy2:
HTH
To own a Tommy Makinen though. Wow. Beautiful beasts.
Post by: Energybutton on February 08, 2017, 06:37:45 pm
Now that my GTI is a weekend car it does alot less but I'm having much more fun! :laugh:
I'll just leave these here! :evilgrin:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fee489%2FEnergyButton%2F7BBCAB83-53EB-40BE-B338-A5B1CBE4411D.jpg&hash=3450a9fad38f30b3e20b0d1611ac1af18ed9275f)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fee489%2FEnergyButton%2F23F17965-532A-4697-BB1B-F0D54903829C.jpg&hash=234fa5257c271f45619649f00cbf4404c4c8915e)
1700 miles in less than a month! :confused:
Post by: mkmg76 on February 09, 2017, 12:56:13 pm
I'm in a similar boat as others here, I do 500 miles/week to work and back. 5 days a week, 50 miles each way.Well that's completely put me off the idea of ever owning an Evo...!
Coming from a 320cd BMW I'm feeling both the extra money required but also the lack of range. (My car is a bog standard DSG.) 60euro used to get me about 600miles at motorway speeds in the BMW (not holding back) but the GTI will only get me about 300miles for the same money and speeds. So, in the beginning I was getting about 30mpg sitting at motorway speeds but recently as a test I've stopped using speed and started using RPM as a marker. I sit the car at 2500rpm (about 65mph) on cruise (6th) and let the car do it's thing.
It's jumped to 450 miles in range and about 35mpg which is a huge increase. Instead of refilling on a Wednesday evening, i'm getting a full extra day and filling up on a Thursday. (the final 50 miles is in the lower quarter or less of the tank so never used).
For comparison, my TME Evo 6 used to get 280 miles from a full tank (40 litres) if you drove it like a pensioner (which you'd never do), or about 200miles if it was driven normally, (160miles if driven "properly"). I used to fill that thing 3 times a week for the same drive to work and back at 50quid a fill, it was worse than a mortgage!! :grin:
All in all the current MPG situation is not bad for a turbo engined petrol sports hatch. :happy2:
HTH
To own a Tommy Makinen though. Wow. Beautiful beasts.
Never let MPG put you off owning one, they're incredible cars. I've owned 9 different versions and loved every one of them.
The thirsty beast in question! (not that any of the others were any easier on fuel!) :signLOL:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fa623%2Fmichael_maguire1%2FWallpaper_Parallax_zps5247c1a9.jpg&hash=1d62a3c194581ff6fa58d963df619c6fb2d3ea8f)
And my rare black TME. Both owned by the same guy in Spain now, lucky Fkr!
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fa623%2Fmichael_maguire1%2FIMG_0682_zps0ksa3upb.jpg&hash=b8100333b1bd931b8ec0a261bace84e9c805c50d)
Post by: AJP on February 09, 2017, 03:04:03 pm
That's just pure porn...!!!!I'm in a similar boat as others here, I do 500 miles/week to work and back. 5 days a week, 50 miles each way.Well that's completely put me off the idea of ever owning an Evo...!
Coming from a 320cd BMW I'm feeling both the extra money required but also the lack of range. (My car is a bog standard DSG.) 60euro used to get me about 600miles at motorway speeds in the BMW (not holding back) but the GTI will only get me about 300miles for the same money and speeds. So, in the beginning I was getting about 30mpg sitting at motorway speeds but recently as a test I've stopped using speed and started using RPM as a marker. I sit the car at 2500rpm (about 65mph) on cruise (6th) and let the car do it's thing.
It's jumped to 450 miles in range and about 35mpg which is a huge increase. Instead of refilling on a Wednesday evening, i'm getting a full extra day and filling up on a Thursday. (the final 50 miles is in the lower quarter or less of the tank so never used).
For comparison, my TME Evo 6 used to get 280 miles from a full tank (40 litres) if you drove it like a pensioner (which you'd never do), or about 200miles if it was driven normally, (160miles if driven "properly"). I used to fill that thing 3 times a week for the same drive to work and back at 50quid a fill, it was worse than a mortgage!! :grin:
All in all the current MPG situation is not bad for a turbo engined petrol sports hatch. :happy2:
HTH
To own a Tommy Makinen though. Wow. Beautiful beasts.
Never let MPG put you off owning one, they're incredible cars. I've owned 9 different versions and loved every one of them.
The thirsty beast in question! (not that any of the others were any easier on fuel!) :signLOL:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fa623%2Fmichael_maguire1%2FWallpaper_Parallax_zps5247c1a9.jpg&hash=1d62a3c194581ff6fa58d963df619c6fb2d3ea8f)
And my rare black TME. Both owned by the same guy in Spain now, lucky Fkr!
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fa623%2Fmichael_maguire1%2FIMG_0682_zps0ksa3upb.jpg&hash=b8100333b1bd931b8ec0a261bace84e9c805c50d)
Honestly mate, stunning things. I applaud you!
Post by: pudding on February 09, 2017, 03:27:23 pm
Post by: ldor1 on February 09, 2017, 03:58:26 pm
Post by: mkmg76 on February 09, 2017, 05:15:01 pm
That's just pure porn...!!!!I'm in a similar boat as others here, I do 500 miles/week to work and back. 5 days a week, 50 miles each way.Well that's completely put me off the idea of ever owning an Evo...!
Coming from a 320cd BMW I'm feeling both the extra money required but also the lack of range. (My car is a bog standard DSG.) 60euro used to get me about 600miles at motorway speeds in the BMW (not holding back) but the GTI will only get me about 300miles for the same money and speeds. So, in the beginning I was getting about 30mpg sitting at motorway speeds but recently as a test I've stopped using speed and started using RPM as a marker. I sit the car at 2500rpm (about 65mph) on cruise (6th) and let the car do it's thing.
It's jumped to 450 miles in range and about 35mpg which is a huge increase. Instead of refilling on a Wednesday evening, i'm getting a full extra day and filling up on a Thursday. (the final 50 miles is in the lower quarter or less of the tank so never used).
For comparison, my TME Evo 6 used to get 280 miles from a full tank (40 litres) if you drove it like a pensioner (which you'd never do), or about 200miles if it was driven normally, (160miles if driven "properly"). I used to fill that thing 3 times a week for the same drive to work and back at 50quid a fill, it was worse than a mortgage!! :grin:
All in all the current MPG situation is not bad for a turbo engined petrol sports hatch. :happy2:
HTH
To own a Tommy Makinen though. Wow. Beautiful beasts.
Never let MPG put you off owning one, they're incredible cars. I've owned 9 different versions and loved every one of them.
The thirsty beast in question! (not that any of the others were any easier on fuel!) :signLOL:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fa623%2Fmichael_maguire1%2FWallpaper_Parallax_zps5247c1a9.jpg&hash=1d62a3c194581ff6fa58d963df619c6fb2d3ea8f)
And my rare black TME. Both owned by the same guy in Spain now, lucky Fkr!
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fa623%2Fmichael_maguire1%2FIMG_0682_zps0ksa3upb.jpg&hash=b8100333b1bd931b8ec0a261bace84e9c805c50d)
Honestly mate, stunning things. I applaud you!
Thank you kind sir! :happy2:
Post by: JoshJaggard on February 16, 2017, 10:21:57 am
I am averaging around 30mpg with mixed driving styles, and town + rural roads
(On journeys 10+ miles)
Post by: reflexsilverfox on February 16, 2017, 12:57:55 pm
How accurate are the average mpg readings on the display on these cars?
Post by: PatchySan on February 16, 2017, 02:23:58 pm
All time best: 36.6 mpg - Quite a bit of motorway driving on this stint, recorded 40.1 MPG overall average on one run only to ruin it on the way back with some spirited driving :driver:)
All time worst: 22.1 mpg - It was cold so I cranked up the heater and seats a lot! Spent a lot of time stationary in city traffic which didn't help!
(https://www.patchysan.net/images/Golf/super-gracie-mpg.png)
On a typical commute I get about 240-250 miles to a tank using Shell V-Power, or on rare occasions use Tesco Momentum 99 if I'm passing by.
Post by: lukemk5gti on February 16, 2017, 02:25:08 pm
Didn't intentionally drive easy to get this either
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fn211%2Flukeoconnor2014%2FIMG_2763_zpsamkhzx9l.jpg&hash=3d7fa37159d0c45fb799f7d5e22c6be0cae4003c)
Post by: david25 on February 17, 2017, 07:02:56 pm
Motorway 37mpg
A road 35mpg
Town 25mpg
Post by: Norfolk Ollie on February 17, 2017, 08:53:43 pm
For me (17" wheels, no remap)
Motorway 37mpg
A road 35mpg
Town 25mpg
I agree with the above but when I take mine out at the weekend for a 20 mile blat (stage 1 r-tech with pre cat deleted) I only get about 18! :fighting:
Post by: dools225 on February 23, 2017, 06:21:20 am
Post by: reflexsilverfox on February 23, 2017, 12:49:40 pm
Post by: Bigjimknickers on February 23, 2017, 06:57:40 pm
Drove about 18km last night after work, no real traffic at about 80km/hr for 14km motorway miles and got just shy of 45mpg.I don't even get that on my Tdi Caddy! I wish on my GTi.
Didn't intentionally drive easy to get this either
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fn211%2Flukeoconnor2014%2FIMG_2763_zpsamkhzx9l.jpg&hash=3d7fa37159d0c45fb799f7d5e22c6be0cae4003c)
Post by: rich83 on February 26, 2017, 09:26:24 am
Changing the PCV to the latest R revision and a switch to 5w40 quantum oil made a big difference in my fuel economy, i can easily get 37-39mpg cruising - i still need to remove my pre cat too
Thicker oil should actually increase fuel economy, not decrease it.
Post by: neilw on February 27, 2017, 02:34:21 pm
Changing the PCV to the latest R revision and a switch to 5w40 quantum oil made a big difference in my fuel economy, i can easily get 37-39mpg cruising - i still need to remove my pre cat too
Thicker oil should actually increase fuel economy, not decrease it.
5-40 is thinner than 5-30 at operating temperature. I watched an "Engineering Explained" Youtube video on Oil viscosity and the differences between Fully Synthetic and semi synthetic
Post by: mikezs on February 27, 2017, 03:20:46 pm
Post by: superchargedpolo on February 27, 2017, 09:09:48 pm
I think my average was about 35mpg for the last 4 fill ups! I need to have a heavier right foot :wink:
Post by: Dan_FR on February 28, 2017, 08:24:32 am
Changing the PCV to the latest R revision and a switch to 5w40 quantum oil made a big difference in my fuel economy, i can easily get 37-39mpg cruising - i still need to remove my pre cat too
Thicker oil should actually increase fuel economy, not decrease it.
5-40 is thinner than 5-30 at operating temperature. I watched an "Engineering Explained" Youtube video on Oil viscosity and the differences between Fully Synthetic and semi synthetic
No its not. The second number governs the viscosity range of an oil at 100 degrees C. The 5w40 is thicker at a given temperature than a 5W30.
The actual differences can vary from next to nothing to 'quite a lot' depending on which end of the range the oils fall in
Thicker oil logically will increase fuel consumption, but using a much better quality oil helps and in the real world this makes minimal difference. New oil is always better than old oil dirty for lubrication.
At the other end of the spectrum people always seems to think a thicker oil is 'better' as it doesn't get as thin when hot, but this isn't always true. There are so many factors involved, such as wear, tolerances, operating conditions and ultimately oil temperature, climate and so on. Having an oil too thick, which doesn't flow as well, resulting in high oil pressure can be as bad as an oil that is too thin.
Post by: rich83 on February 28, 2017, 09:18:06 am
Changing the PCV to the latest R revision and a switch to 5w40 quantum oil made a big difference in my fuel economy, i can easily get 37-39mpg cruising - i still need to remove my pre cat too
Thicker oil should actually increase fuel economy, not decrease it.
5-40 is thinner than 5-30 at operating temperature. I watched an "Engineering Explained" Youtube video on Oil viscosity and the differences between Fully Synthetic and semi synthetic
No
Post by: neilw on February 28, 2017, 10:35:14 am
Post by: Oldy on February 28, 2017, 10:50:28 am
Post by: rich83 on February 28, 2017, 11:12:14 am
Just checked. I stand corrected. Ignore me! :grin:
:laugh:
Post by: pudding on February 28, 2017, 03:09:53 pm
Some guys on here are achieving mpg I never can. I cannot get more than 30 mpg and tbh its nearer 28. Perhaps too heavy a right foot!
Nagging wives, or they drive like one?
Tbh, the only time I ever check the mpg is when these threads come up, and it's never surprised me with more than 27, not even on my birthday. Ungrateful feckin car.
Post by: mikezs on February 28, 2017, 03:37:53 pm
Would things like oil quality, oil age, spark plugs, air filter, fuel used, tyres/wear and mods effect them drastically.
I propose the 5GGSFT (MK5 Golf GTI Standard Fuel Test) where you reset your computer and drive for 50 seconds under the conditions listed, describe the items listed above and we can compare the results.
Post by: Oldy on February 28, 2017, 05:45:21 pm
Post by: lukemk5gti on March 01, 2017, 12:04:53 pm
Changing the PCV to the latest R revision and a switch to 5w40 quantum oil made a big difference in my fuel economy, i can easily get 37-39mpg cruising - i still need to remove my pre cat too
Thicker oil should actually increase fuel economy, not decrease it.
5-40 is thinner than 5-30 at operating temperature. I watched an "Engineering Explained" Youtube video on Oil viscosity and the differences between Fully Synthetic and semi synthetic
No
Saw this and immediately dropped my jaw.
A guy on the internet through a friends dog told me that once his oil was better if you added coolant to reduce viscosity.
Post by: pudding on March 01, 2017, 01:51:01 pm
Changing the PCV to the latest R revision and a switch to 5w40 quantum oil made a big difference in my fuel economy, i can easily get 37-39mpg cruising - i still need to remove my pre cat too
Thicker oil should actually increase fuel economy, not decrease it.
5-40 is thinner than 5-30 at operating temperature. I watched an "Engineering Explained" Youtube video on Oil viscosity and the differences between Fully Synthetic and semi synthetic
No
Saw this and immediately dropped my jaw.
A guy on the internet through a friends dog told me that once his oil was better if you added coolant to reduce viscosity.
Yeah and his friend's Orangutan once told me that 50:50 olive oil and Flora buttery is simply the best lubricant you can get.
On a more serious note, there are people out there who still take the term 'fill the engine with oil' quite literally!
Post by: unzippy on March 01, 2017, 04:04:48 pm
Stage what ever for 1/2/3/4/5 and then granny mode for 6th motorway work?
Post by: pudding on March 01, 2017, 06:09:46 pm
Could you have a map dependant on gear?
Stage what ever for 1/2/3/4/5 and then granny mode for 6th motorway work?
No need mate. Maps are self regulating. Tiny throttle inputs = tiny amounts of fuel injected.
You could of course fit the 6th gear from a diesel gearbox but the huge rpm drop from 5th to 6th will be annoying.
Post by: AJP on March 01, 2017, 06:43:34 pm
If there's any modern-ish, decent looking, affordable, quick car, that doesn't drink like Bill Werbenuik, it's the mk5 GTI.
Drive the f*cker how you feel. It won't bankrupt you. Drive it hard. It's fun. If you really need to save money, or you're 'on fumes', rest assured you can get a good few miles out of very few litres - assuming everything is working as intended.
It really is a non-issue.
Post by: Oldy on March 02, 2017, 07:26:44 am
Post by: grey golfster on March 02, 2017, 09:56:43 am
Always astounds me how much attention an MPG thread gets on a performance car forum! Even more so given the minimal milages that most cars in here seem to cover (imho 10k pa is LOW mileage! You're not even average until 12-15k pa!). Plenty of people out there doing 20k + pa.
Drive it, enjoy it! Honestly, Fuel really is not that expensive compared to the other motoring costs that we face.
However, it won't be many years before these sorts of cars are banned by the enviromentalists, and we're condemend to driving a feckin Nissan Leaf powered off a windmill! If you're allowed to drive yourself at all!
Relative cost of fuel (like interest rates) is disproportionately low atm.
These cars offer fantastically good fuel consumption for their level of performance. I can get >30 mpg out of my stg 2 n a bit Eddy at 70 on the Mway.
Rant over.......for now
The above, Unles you are lucky enough to have one of those original, mint, super low mileage Eddy's - in that case store it, buy another cheap one and thrash that! :happy2:
Post by: rich83 on March 02, 2017, 11:35:03 am
Wanna chase MPG? Get a 1.9 TDI VAG and pump the tyres up to 100PSI :signLOL:
Post by: SurreyED30 on March 02, 2017, 11:57:31 am
Literally couldn't give a flying f*ck about MPG. At the moment I think my average has slipped to about 21-22MPG.Ive just read this thread and you have used near enough the same words i was about to type :signLOL:
Wanna chase MPG? Get a 1.9 TDI VAG and pump the tyres up to 100PSI :signLOL:
if your really that bothered about mpg you shouldn't have purchased a hot hatch, go buy a diesel :stupid:
Post by: reflexsilverfox on March 03, 2017, 12:42:39 pm
Post by: grey golfster on March 03, 2017, 06:52:01 pm
Stumbled across this while looking for something else - honest... :ashamed:
"Definitive" Real MPG for gti? :signLOL:
REAL MPG: Volkswagen Golf V (2004 - 2008) GTI
Figures off Honest John site:
http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/realmpg/volkswagen/golf-v-2004/gti
Official MPG 35.3
Real MPG 23.3–38.0
Real MPG Average 31.2
89% of official MPG
I will try not to read this post any more... :popcornsoda: