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General => Random Chat => Topic started by: Bozz on February 21, 2017, 11:56:45 am
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Hi everyone. Forgive me for getting political for a minute But just seen on the news about that Israeli soldier Elor Azaria has been sentenced to just 18 months for shooting a wounded Palestinian 21 year old who was laying on the ground after already being wounded, We all saw live on tv this soldier walk up to the wounded man & shoot him dead.... It doesn't matter who you are that wasn't manslaughter it was murder. And when you think if a Palestinian youth throws a stone at a Israeli tank he'll get 2 to 3 years in prison. Yes I know there is good & bad on both sides of this conflict but this is not justice. And Israel wonder why they are hated like they are ? I am not anti Semitic i just don't like the injustice the Palestinian people have to live with in their own land.
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Hes only been convicted as it was televised
Its nothing new, happends everyday, Ireael, british, american. just the world we live in unfortunately.
Same acts different uniform.
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Hes only been convicted as it was televised
Its nothing new, happends everyday, Ireael, british, american. just the world we live in unfortunately.
Same acts different uniform.
Thanks for your reply Paradox, I've been to many pro Palestine demos in recent years & you always hear the same thing coming from the pro Israel supporters (we want peace you want war) Sorry but what the Israelis do to the Palestinian people day in day out is Not a sign for wanting peace. Another thing I can't quite understand,,, Why is the US so far up the AxxE of Israel ?
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I like this forum because it doesnt get involved with news and politics........ :popcornsoda:
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Hes only been convicted as it was televised
Its nothing new, happends everyday, Ireael, british, american. just the world we live in unfortunately.
Same acts different uniform.
Thanks for your reply Paradox, I've been to many pro Palestine demos in recent years & you always hear the same thing coming from the pro Israel supporters (we want peace you want war) Sorry but what the Israelis do to the Palestinian people day in day out is Not a sign for wanting peace. Another thing I can't quite understand,,, Why is the US so far up the AxxE of Israel ?
That isn't the same as what paradox said..
Same acts different uniform
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I like this forum because it doesnt get involved with news and politics........ :popcornsoda:
Yea I get your point mate :) but somethings just don't seem right
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I have no axe to grind either way, and tbh don't come on the mk5 GTi s forum for the politics.....
However, in this particular instance, it appears to me that Bozz forgot to mention (or perhaps overlooked?) That the reason the Palestinian was on the ground and wounded, was that he and an accomplice had stabbed an Israeli, and that attack was yet another in a series of recent similar attacks?
Not that that justifies what followed, but...
Pots n kettles etc etc.... :popcornsoda:
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I have no axe to grind either way, and tbh don't come on the mk5 GTi s forum for the politics.....
However, in this particular instance, it appears to me that Bozz forgot to mention (or perhaps overlooked?) That the reason the Palestinian was on the ground and wounded, was that he and an accomplice had stabbed an Israeli, and that attack was yet another in a series of recent similar attacks?
Not that that justifies what followed, but...
Pots n kettles etc etc.... :popcornsoda:
Yes mate I do know the Palestinian was shot & wounded because he had stabbed an Israeli for which he was shot & wounded so he was stopped which is fair enough But for a soldier to walk up & just shoot him in the head while he's laying on the floor is murder no matter who it is or where your from. I'm sorry but what that soldier did is a war crime.
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This happens everyday though. If your in a uniform, it seems to be "Okay" to bend the rules.
They have had hatred for years and tbh, im not sure what it over but they have been at war for the longest.
People who enforce the law(not all) need to remember they are people as well and not some almighty being.
Look at home the police in america Kill unarmed people yet dont stand trial....
Ahh dont get me started lol
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This happens everyday though. If your in a uniform, it seems to be "Okay" to bend the rules.
They have had hatred for years and tbh, im not sure what it over but they have been at war for the longest.
People who enforce the law(not all) need to remember they are people as well and not some almighty being.
Look at home the police in america Kill unarmed people yet dont stand trial....
Ahh dont get me started lol
100% agree mate
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The reality of the whole pelestinian / Israeli conflict is this.. many years ago there was no such place as Israel. After the holocaust many of the Jews left Europe for obvious reasons and a large portion of them were welcomed to Palestine with open arms and the Jews and Palestinians lived in peace. Then Britain came along and CREATED Israel within Palestine and over the years expanded it for no reason. Than all the conflict started.. The majority of the media is Israeli owned and they put a spin on things however the want, like the time they showed wrecked buildings due the bombings and cities totally destroyed and said it was Israel when in actual fact it was Palestine... I could go on and on but YouTube has a vast amount of info..
On a side note I'm just stating facts and I don't dislike Jewish peeps. I've met a few who have been very nice people :happy2:
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The reality of the whole pelestinian / Israeli conflict is this.. many years ago there was no such place as Israel. After the holocaust many of the Jews left Europe for obvious reasons and a large portion of them were welcomed to Palestine with open arms and the Jews and Palestinians lived in peace. Then Britain came along and CREATED Israel within Palestine and over the years expanded it for no reason. Than all the conflict started.. The majority of the media is Israeli owned and they put a spin on things however the want, like the time they showed wrecked buildings due the bombings and cities totally destroyed and said it was Israel when in actual fact it was Palestine... I could go on and on but YouTube has a vast amount of info..
On a side note I'm just stating facts and I don't dislike Jewish peeps. I've met a few who have been very nice people :happy2:
Thanks for your post my friend, I could not have wrote it any better myself. Thank you again.
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It's not about hate it's about justice & freedom
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Have you ever listened to Pink Floyd, Bozz?
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Have you ever listened to Pink Floyd, Bozz?
A little but it was years ago, A brick in the wall stands out a bit if I remember :)
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Roger Waters shares similar views to you, if I'm not mistaken :)
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Roger Waters shares similar views to you, if I'm not mistaken :)
Hi again AJP, I've just watched a few clips of Roger Waters on YouTube & your absolutely right mate
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No matter what your religon or whatever the colour of your skin everyone has the right to live in peace & freedom, Well that's my opinion,
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Roger Waters shares similar views to you, if I'm not mistaken :)
Hi again AJP, I've just watched a few clips of Roger Waters on YouTube & your absolutely right mate
Lots of their music is politically charged. There's often a theme of questioning authority, or fighting The Man. And it's incredible music in itself.
Have a listen to Welcome to the Machine, and Mother. Those two are just off the top of my head; they produced a ton of quality.
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No matter what your religon or whatever the colour of your skin everyone has the right to live in peace & freedom, Well that's my opinion,
Well said Bozz :happy2:
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Big thanks to Banksy for his new hotel in Bethlehem & for bringing the struggle of the Palestinian Pepople to the world once again
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Quite a gesture.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/mar/03/banksy-opens-bethlehem-barrier-wall-hotel
Recent rumours point at Banksy's real identity being Robert Del Naja ('3D') of Bristol's Massive Attack - a group you should also look into, Bozz.
Out of all the Banksy theories, this one probably holds the most weight, for me. Again, there's quite a political impetus behind them, although it's not overtly obvious through their music. If you had the time and got a feel for what they're about, you could see why the link is plausible.
But back to the point. Good on him, them, whoever he is.
And by the way, if anyone's on Twitter following that 'real banksy' account, it's really not him..
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I would probably say doing something like this is probably the final nail in the coffin for a so called "two state" solution:
http://news.sky.com/story/israel-legalises-west-bank-settler-homes-as-netanyahu-visits-uk-10758989
The more Palestinian owned land is taken by Israel, sooner or later it would seem Palestine would be non existent. It's gradually taking away the land and claiming it as their own. Even Jews say it belongs to the Palestinians but put the blame on Zionist Israel causing the issues (which has often led to Jews being publically shamed)
We all know these things go on - the fact of the matter is no matter how many demonststrations/rallies/marches people do, it never has an effect.
It's a sad world we live in.
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If only Caliph Umar had a problem with a cam follower...........