MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: stealthwolf on January 29, 2010, 01:05:42 pm
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In true typical stealth fashion, I've somehow buggered my car. Was fine up unil today and had its second service a few days ago.
Today, trip up to see a friend. at one point about to undertake to enter onto a slip road. Doing 60mph, 6th gear. Somehow hit second instead of fourth. Engine red lines, think there was a momentary loss of power but engine didn't cut out. Car definitely felt funny afterward. First I thought it was the engine but think it may be the clutch.
Car can hit high speeds without problem but doesn't feel as urgent as before. The clutch pedal is very soft (but springs back to the normal position okay). Absolutely no strong biting point but there is a slight one vaguely detectable. Have managed to drive in stop/start traffic and park without problems (including without stalling).
Ideas? Is it the clutch?
How much for OEM replacement?
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£192.74 Clutch Kit
£ 35.43 Release Bearing
£275.00 Labour
£578.64 inc VAT
... well, that's how much mine was anyway.
Although I'm not entirely sure that's your problem
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Just had an oem clutch from 'seremotors' in ireland who are a seat dealer and the lad David there is incredibly helpfull. My clutch kit including release bearing was £147 + £10 postage and fitting was by local dealer at £175 inc vat.
Phone VW and get a price for your clutch for your chassis number then ask the part numbers of the clutch kit + release bearing.
My clutch kit was 06F141015CX
Release bearing oa5141671
Hope that all helps :happy2:
Kev.
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Forgot to say my car is a 2008 edition 30 :wink:
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60mph shouldnt destroy your clutch though from a low revving 6th to 2nd change should it?
i can comfortably hit 60ish in 2nd, never changed down to a redline though
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Does it feel like its constantly down on power now?
Could of possibly bent valves! :confused:
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isn't completely lacking power just lack of oomph. It hits high speeds reasonably well but I don't feel like I'm being pushed into my seat with he acceleration. Will try and test it out on the return journey.
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its probably cos your going from 5th to 2nd gear stealth!
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its probably cos your going from 5th to 2nd gear stealth!
Yeah I noticed that you had posted that the other day Stealth....probably not the greatest of habits to get into. :scared:
Aside from that, hope your car is ok.
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But when I go from 5th to 2nd, I slow down first using the brakes! I don't just slam it into 2nd!!! Example on a dual carriageway. 60mph. Fifth gear. Roundabout coming up. Brake to slow down and block change to 2nd gear. Done it for the past 20 months in the GTI with no trouble. The car felt completely different when I did this.
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it is possible to over rev when down shifting past the rev limiter, so you need to VCDS and find your max revs hit (I seem to remember its stored)
but many say its save to way over the redline as std for v short periods
your clutch may just have given up the ghost before it took your valvetrain into orbit ...
If it really feels different then I would definitely suggest a compression test.
but weve all done it so dont worry yet...most of us get away with it :happy2:
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Okay well the return journey was fine. Clutch no longer felt soft. Strong biting point. Plenty of power.
What's a valvetrain? Why would it go wrong? How much would it cost to have fixed?
I was in 6th at 3-4k revs when I downchanged to 2nd. Immediately got it into 4th when I saw it redline. Doing maybe 50-60mph.
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need to VCDS and find your max revs hit (I seem to remember its stored)
I have VCDS but other changing things like the RNS510 theme or changing the autolocks etc don't know what I would have to do to find out max revs. Any pointers would be grateful.
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It stores a fault code for over-revving.
From my old Octavia after it was "borrowed". :sad1:
000537 - Maximum Engine Speed Exceeded: Engine Warranty VOID! :-)
P0219 - 001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100001
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 8
Mileage: 66095 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 17:54:02
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 7265 /min
Load: 9.4 %
Speed: 221.0 km/h
Temperature: 90.0�C
Temperature: 33.0�C
Absolute Pres.: 1010.0 mbar
Voltage: 14.351 V
Readiness: 0000 0000
Notice the Engine Warranty VOID! :-) put in by Ross Tech. :laugh:
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Cool. I'll run a scsn tonight once I've returned the machine to its lair.
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Nothing shows on the scan. Looks like it's all clear.
On the upside, I just figured out what the OBD II button does. Now just gotta make some logs and figure out how to interpret the data.
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cool sounds like all is well :pomppomp:
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Sounds to me that, in typical fashion, the car has thrown up its arms in horror (like you touched the girl's thigh without being invited to) and has now calmed down and is back to normal.
I sometimes shift (double click) from 5th > 3rd or 4th > 2nd via my DSG paddles but very rarely, and only when caught napping. You want to break your habit and use the whole box without any short cuts.
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Sounds like you may of just burnt the clutch a little. Which will of no doubt occured when you disengaged from 2nd and subsequently transferred all the load onto the clutch causing a soft pedal for a while.
Nothing to worry about.
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I use to burn the clutch on a Silvia I had quite a bit.
When rolling into a Jap car meet I'd boot it with the clutch down, fast and the furious style (childish I know). Sounded good at the time, smelt pretty bad though :innocent: :grin:
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like you touched the girl's thigh without being invited to.
Love the analogy. :innocent:
You want to break your habit and use the whole box without any short cuts.
I was taught to block change when I had my driving lessons. The important thing is matching speed, not just road speed but also engine speed. When I block change down like that, it's usually because I'm coming up to a junction and want to be able to stop or go without hesitation. The only difference in this instance is that I was still travelling at speed (60mph at 3-4k rpm rather than <20mph at under 2k rpm).
Sounds like you may of just burnt the clutch a little. Which will of no doubt occured when you disengaged from 2nd and subsequently transferred all the load onto the clutch causing a soft pedal for a while.
Nothing to worry about.
Ah thanks. As said previously, I've never downchanged into an inappropriate gear before.
Anyways, took the car out on another trip today and had no issues whatsoever. Apart from a muppet in the outside lane of a dual carriageway who neither overtook the vehicle on the inside lane nor moved back into the lefthand lane. Really winds me up because he was basically blocking the dual carriageway.
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like you touched the girl's thigh without being invited to.
Love the analogy. :innocent:
....Then afterwards of course, she's hoping you're going to touch her thigh again! And the sooner the better, she hopes.
Yes, you obviously know what you're doing re matching revs etc.
The DSG box of tricks is very self-protective, so it's difficult to get those problems. I suppose another analogy I could offer is that having a DSG box is like wearing a condom the whole time :evilgrin:
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when I had my driving lessons.
come on Stealth, we all can tell know you have never had a lesson. :laugh: