Post by: Timsrs on May 02, 2017, 06:45:25 pm
Just purchased a stunning candy white edition 30
I am looking at getting the wheels refurbished in shadow chrome
I also want to fit wheel spacers to the car as well
I am after a more stance to the car nothing to much
What size spacers ( front and rear ) do most go for
I'm after a decent set and where's the best place to purchase
The car is lowered 30mm on H&R springs
Many thanks
Tim
Post by: fab5freddy on May 02, 2017, 06:49:03 pm
Post by: Octoparrot on May 02, 2017, 06:59:12 pm
Post by: Timsrs on May 02, 2017, 07:17:37 pm
Cheers yes it had standard 18" Pescara wheels
Post by: AJP on May 02, 2017, 07:29:06 pm
Just add the spacer width to the thread length.
Post by: Timsrs on May 02, 2017, 07:33:17 pm
Will this catch with it going lowered
I agree will look fantastic though
Has anyone got a pic of 15mm rear spacers fitted
Post by: slix on May 02, 2017, 08:07:01 pm
Such a difference from running no spacers :happy2:
Post by: Timsrs on May 02, 2017, 08:09:47 pm
Have you a picture
Cheers
Post by: Damian @ DPM on May 03, 2017, 03:46:02 pm
Damian @ DPM Performance
Post by: chigmuss on May 03, 2017, 10:33:19 pm
So I'm 12mm all round now. NQSBBK on front.
Post by: rich83 on May 03, 2017, 11:11:36 pm
Post by: MIJ_JAGGER on May 03, 2017, 11:20:43 pm
I would go 10mm front and rear.You reckon It'd rub with Eibach Sportlines? I'm on 18 monzas...want a more arch flush look
Post by: rich83 on May 04, 2017, 08:21:24 am
Post by: Damian @ DPM on May 04, 2017, 11:12:30 am
Damian @ DPM Performance
Post by: Paradox1 on May 04, 2017, 11:28:19 am
Post by: chigmuss on May 04, 2017, 09:34:00 pm
Post by: MIJ_JAGGER on May 04, 2017, 10:13:44 pm
Post by: Timsrs on May 04, 2017, 11:00:47 pm
Post by: MIJ_JAGGER on May 04, 2017, 11:25:56 pm
Post by: AJP on May 04, 2017, 11:45:08 pm
BUT.....
Damian makes a good point. The rear hub 'protrusion' is often deeper than the front. Basically the inner bore of a hubcentric spacer can only be of a certain depth in order to allow the spacer to have a hubcentric lip.
In layman's terms, an 8mm or 10mm hubcentric spacer might not fit far enough onto the hub lip/protrusion. The spacer won't reach the disc.
On the mk4 at least - to confuse the situation further - some mk4s had deeper rear hub lips than others. So some people got away with 10/12mm spacers, while some people could only fit a minimum thickness of 15mm, and lots of people got the hump.
Some success was had with an angle grinder on the rear hub lip, but I'm not advising that...
I've probably described that terribly, I'll do a diagram to clarify if needed!
Post by: pudding on May 05, 2017, 09:51:47 am
Some success was had with an angle grinder on the rear hub lip, but I'm not advising that...
:surprised:
Reminds me of people cutting chunks out of the front chassis legs for driveshaft clearance because they've lowered the car so much, it's practically undriveable :grin:
Any change in handling characteristics from spacers?
Post by: AJP on May 05, 2017, 10:33:47 am
Yep, lots of chopping went on in the mk4 scene.
Some success was had with an angle grinder on the rear hub lip, but I'm not advising that...
:surprised:
Reminds me of people cutting chunks out of the front chassis legs for driveshaft clearance because they've lowered the car so much, it's practically undriveable :grin:
Any change in handling characteristics from spacers?
Theoretically if you widen the front track you'll get more rotation/turn in, and widening the rear decreases it, so increasing understeer. That's with a front wheel drive car at least.
It's nice to have a square set of wheels that fit nicely without having to use spacers!
Post by: pudding on May 05, 2017, 10:56:52 am
Yep, lots of chopping went on in the mk4 scene.
Some success was had with an angle grinder on the rear hub lip, but I'm not advising that...
:surprised:
Reminds me of people cutting chunks out of the front chassis legs for driveshaft clearance because they've lowered the car so much, it's practically undriveable :grin:
Any change in handling characteristics from spacers?
Theoretically if you widen the front track you'll get more rotation/turn in, and widening the rear decreases it, so increasing understeer. That's with a front wheel drive car at least.
It's nice to have a square set of wheels that fit nicely without having to use spacers!
You're not wrong. I felt like an outcast having a standard R32 back in my MK4 days :grin:
Check this out, it makes for horrifying, but not unsurprising viewing -
OK cool, I was tempted to move the standard wheels out a bit for more track and improve the visuals a bit, but was concerned it would ruin the handling. And also moving the tyres further out flings up more stones and grit onto the arch lips and sills, and we all know how these cars like to rot in those areas, so didn't want to augment it!
Post by: AJP on May 05, 2017, 11:05:45 am
I'll have a look at that this evening. Still need to watch the Stoptech vid too!Yep, lots of chopping went on in the mk4 scene.
Some success was had with an angle grinder on the rear hub lip, but I'm not advising that...
:surprised:
Reminds me of people cutting chunks out of the front chassis legs for driveshaft clearance because they've lowered the car so much, it's practically undriveable :grin:
Any change in handling characteristics from spacers?
Theoretically if you widen the front track you'll get more rotation/turn in, and widening the rear decreases it, so increasing understeer. That's with a front wheel drive car at least.
It's nice to have a square set of wheels that fit nicely without having to use spacers!
You're not wrong. I felt like an outcast having a standard R32 back in my MK4 days :grin:
Check this out, it makes for horrifying, but not unsurprising viewing -
OK cool, I was tempted to move the standard wheels out a bit for more track and improve the visuals a bit, but was concerned it would ruin the handling. And also moving the tyres further out flings up more stones and grit onto the arch lips and sills, and we all know how these cars like to rot in those areas, so didn't want to augment it!
If you kept the wheels 'square', ie spaced the front and rear the same amount, you shouldn't get any negative effects (provided you kept things within sensible limits).
I'd imagine 10/12mm all round on a Pescara would be a nice result. And if the rear hub lip issue was apparent, you'd be fine with 12 front 15 rear.
It's only really the stancey 'staggered' setups (8" front 10" rear kind of thing) that really throw the handling.
A couple of mill isn't going to do a lot.
Post by: pudding on May 05, 2017, 11:57:48 am
Post by: AJP on May 05, 2017, 07:06:17 pm
Wow. What a pile of sh*t. I feel sorry for the guy that bought it. As they say - A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
That attempt at a chassis notch?! And the nearside strut/hub just falling out...?! Deathtrap.
Post by: pudding on May 08, 2017, 01:58:09 pm
Just watched that vid @Pudding
Wow. What a pile of sh*t. I feel sorry for the guy that bought it. As they say - A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
That attempt at a chassis notch?! And the nearside strut/hub just falling out...?! Deathtrap.
Awful wasn't it! It had 'bodge' written all over it, especially when I saw plasti-dip overspray everywhere!
And the Lion Bar looking welding on the seat runners :surprised: It's a complete death trap!