MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: r5gtt on May 04, 2017, 08:06:43 pm
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Today I fitted my gen 3 window modules off a seat Leon on to my gti but they don't seem to work :sad1: anyone have any ideas thanks
PN 1K0959793N
PN 1K0959732N
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What's the problem? How old is gti
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05 and 5 dr I believe :scared:
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Yes thanks Varley, @SI-R32 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1757) it's an 05 November gti mk5 more door
The ones I have are gen 2 I believe and last letter is H
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You'll have gen 2 wiring, if your fitting gen 3 there will be lots of pin changes needed, did you have a read of this on my gti. Com
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You'll have gen 2 wiring, if your fitting gen 3 there will be lots of pin changes needed, did you have a read of this on my gti. Com
cheers mate I read something you posted on here a while back but didn't realise I'd have this issue. Is there anyway around this as Alex said it will work fine hence I bought them and tried fitting in today but only left windon button unlocks doors :doh:
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Early golf's had slightly different wiring to later golf's on the window modules, if it's a gen 3 module it will only work in later golf's unless you do a few pin changes in possibly 2 plugs, as yours is an 05 car you'll defo have gen 2 modules fitted, it's not to bad to repin the plugs
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Why you changing, folding mirrors?
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Why you changing, folding mirrors?
Im not changing them but wanted to add the remote option to it and if you had a diagram to maybe Assist me that would be awesome?.
Thanks
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If you can wait I'll sort something out for you, right now I'm laid up with back problems, so can't use the laptop. But I can send wiring diagrams of the different connections
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If you can wait I'll sort something out for you, right now I'm laid up with back problems, so can't use the laptop. But I can send wiring diagrams of the different connections
yeah I'm in no rush thanks and hope you recover soon mate as I know what it's like to have an issue with the body :sad1:
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Hey mate.
Do you have both part numbers for the new gen 3 modules and motor?
There so many different numbers with these freaking modules :fighting:
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Hey mate.
Do you have both part numbers for the new gen 3 modules and motor?
There so many different numbers with these freaking modules :fighting:
i was going to message you last night but it got late lol the ones I've got only work with 2007 and above :doh: there aren't different number it's the letter at the end you need to look for
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There is 2 numbers 702 "x" and 792 "x"
So the 792N will always allow mirror fold no matter what part number the motor has?
Like this one
http://www.ebay.de/itm/1K0959701AC-1K0959793N-VW-Golf-5-Jetta-Passat-3C-Fensterheber-Tursteuergerat-VL-/222496137508?hash=item33cdcda124:g:FgEAAOSwR29ZCDdy
Will this be a max module? :smiley:
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Sorry to jump on your post but I had to change my drivers door window motor as the old one cooked itself and when the new one was fitted and all the buttons worked the wrong thing VW didn't want to know and they're trying to blame it on my car! So what we are saying is the current gen modules definitely won't work in an early mk5? What's the fix for this?
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Who picked the module and who fitted it?
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There is 2 numbers 702 "x" and 792 "x"
So the 792N will always allow mirror fold no matter what part number the motor has?
Like this one
http://www.ebay.de/itm/1K0959701AC-1K0959793N-VW-Golf-5-Jetta-Passat-3C-Fensterheber-Tursteuergerat-VL-/222496137508?hash=item33cdcda124:g:FgEAAOSwR29ZCDdy
Will this be a max module? :smiley:
hmm confusing to me why 702-792 and not 703 with 702 and 792 with 793
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Sorry to jump on your post but I had to change my drivers door window motor as the old one cooked itself and when the new one was fitted and all the buttons worked the wrong thing VW didn't want to know and they're trying to blame it on my car! So what we are saying is the current gen modules definitely won't work in an early mk5? What's the fix for this?
what is your original gen part number as I have the last letters G that are spares now. Also are your electrics basic and non folding?
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Sorry to jump on your post but I had to change my drivers door window motor as the old one cooked itself and when the new one was fitted and all the buttons worked the wrong thing VW didn't want to know and they're trying to blame it on my car! So what we are saying is the current gen modules definitely won't work in an early mk5? What's the fix for this?
what is your original gen part number as I have the last letters G that are spares now. Also are your electrics basic and non folding?
No my car was spec'd with folding mirrors from new. VW have had it for a total of 5 days now and can't get it to work! My mechanic got it working with a Passat module but I am pissed off that VW just shrugged their shoulders at the new part not working so am getting them to fit the new part for free, not matter how long it takes :grin: They said to me "VW wouldn't have made a new revision to a part which wouldn't work on your car". Umm, it seems they have :doh:
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Sorry to jump on your post but I had to change my drivers door window motor as the old one cooked itself and when the new one was fitted and all the buttons worked the wrong thing VW didn't want to know and they're trying to blame it on my car! So what we are saying is the current gen modules definitely won't work in an early mk5? What's the fix for this?
what is your original gen part number as I have the last letters G that are spares now. Also are your electrics basic and non folding?
No my car was spec'd with folding mirrors from new. VW have had it for a total of 5 days now and can't get it to work! My mechanic got it working with a Passat module but I am pissed off that VW just shrugged their shoulders at the new part not working so am getting them to fit the new part for free, not matter how long it takes :grin: They said to me "VW wouldn't have made a new revision to a part which wouldn't work on your car". Umm, it seems they have :doh:
the reason I asked was if yours are Rev G then mine should have worked with folding option but obviously not.
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My 05 MK5 has factory fitted folding mirrors and puddle lights - gen2 highline controllers
Gen3 are totally wired different as I fitted gen3, wanted to add reverse mirror dip and remove fold in.
They don't work, unless re-wired, which I didn't get round to doing so don't know the wires.
Put gen 3 into gen2 and all strange things happen.
door lock puts windows down, window buttons don't lock, dash displays left door always open....etc.
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My 05 MK5 has factory fitted folding mirrors and puddle lights - gen2 highline controllers
Gen3 are totally wired different as I fitted gen3, wanted to add reverse mirror dip and remove fold in.
They don't work, unless re-wired, which I didn't get round to doing so don't know the wires.
Put gen 3 into gen2 and all strange things happen.
door lock puts windows down, window buttons don't lock, dash displays left door always open....etc.
gen 2 being what @ady-uk (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=11026) g h ?
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My car is back in with VW today for them to sort the window motor / electric mirror issue. Good luck I say! Though I did enjoy the loan Polo's beautifully working folding and electric mirrors :grin:
I have a feeling I will be putting the old gen 2 module my mechanic gave me back in... what's most annoying though is that they disconnected the battery so my Revo map has gone back to 0 - since when did fitting a window motor require disconnecting of the battery!? They are USELESS!
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Gen.2 MAX electronic modules have "H" and the motors are "L".
Gen.3 MAX electronic modules have "M" and the motors are "Q"
or could also be electronic "K" and motors with "N". -- Not quite sure on this one. I know the "N" motor are highline module but can't remember which revision the electronic has.. I think it's a K :confused:
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Pointless with these modules if you have to change the blasted wiring around
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Gen.2 MAX electronic modules have "H" and the motors are "L".
Gen.3 MAX electronic modules have "M" and the motors are "Q" or could also be electronic "K" and motors with "N".
You would have thought a VW dealership with the aid of "VW Technical" would know this :scared:
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When you're changing from gen1-2 to 3. All wires in T32 connector has to be changed and some in the T20.
Here's the list for wire swapping.
(https://billedeupload.dk/images/WBKbV.jpg)
(https://billedeupload.dk/images/qXU9k.jpg)
Text is danish but the pins are the same.
or check colours..
rød = red
hvid = white
gul = yellow
grøn = green
blå = blue
grå = grey
lilla = purple
orange = orange
sort = black
brun = brown
Nothings never easy with these door modules... I've spent hours and hours sourcing out info and I did end up buying two new Gen. 2 MAX modules since I didn't want to do all the wire swapping.. Actually did all the wire swapping for some Gen. 3 modules that didn't work properly.
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When you're changing from gen1-2 to 3. All wires in T32 connector has to be changed and some in the T20.
Here's the list for wire swapping.
(https://billedeupload.dk/images/WBKbV.jpg)
(https://billedeupload.dk/images/qXU9k.jpg)
Text is danish but the pins are the same.
or check colours..
rød = red
hvid = white
gul = yellow
grøn = green
blå = blue
grå = grey
lilla = purple
orange = orange
sort = black
brun = brown
Nothings never easy with these door modules... I've spent hours and hours sourcing out info and I did end up buying two new Gen. 2 MAX modules since I didn't want to do all the wire swapping.. Actually did all the wire swapping for some Gen. 3 modules that didn't work properly.
Thank you for this - it's highly useful. Perhaps I will take it in to my local dealership to assist them... because they sure as hell won't work it out for themselves!!
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http://www.r32oc.com/index.php?/topic/241505-Window-Module-Gen-2-to-3-Wiring-Changes
I wrote this the other day bit more info for you
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http://www.r32oc.com/index.php?/topic/241505-Window-Module-Gen-2-to-3-Wiring-Changes
I wrote this the other day bit more info for you
This is really a nice write up SI.
I think the pin 14 on gen. 2 module is +12V for interior doorhandle illumination if incase you want to add that to your scheme. And it's pin 17 on gen.3 modules :)
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Cheers Chris I couldn't remember which pin it was wheb I fitted this years ago, cheers