MK5 Golf GTI

All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Sat Nav and Car Audio => Topic started by: devilt on February 01, 2010, 10:00:18 pm

Title: RNS510 - Differences in versions b & c and firmware 1100 & 2600
Post by: devilt on February 01, 2010, 10:00:18 pm
I recently bought a Golf GTi MK5 that was registered in November 2006. I'm after a RNS510 for it but am a bit confused with which version/firmare to go for.

Therefore could somebody please tell me the differences in the B and C versions and  also the differences in firmware’s 1100 and 2600?

I would like the DVD to be played when car is on the move (not for me, the passengers :signLOL: ) , would I be able to do this with firmware 1200 or would I need the 2600?

I know mortygttdi has a deal on these in the for sale section but I can't post a reply there for some reason, nor can I PM, maybe too new to the forum!

Thanks
Title: Re: RNS510 - Differences in versions b & c and firmware 1100 & 2600
Post by: ollie288 on February 01, 2010, 10:07:28 pm
You need to get a few posts! (10 for pms)

Neither Fw will allow dvd on the move automatically however there is a thing you can do to allow them both to play on the move. Press buttons, I cant remember which someone will know. :happy2:
Title: Re: RNS510 - Differences in versions b & c and firmware 1100 & 2600
Post by: devilt on February 01, 2010, 10:14:20 pm
Cool thats nice to know, when I get one I'm sure someone will help me out on the forum. Is there also an option to make the unit multi-region, assuming they come out the factory set as region 2.

10 posts will take forever!
Title: Re: RNS510 - Differences in versions b & c and firmware 1100 & 2600
Post by: xxx_mojo_xxx on February 02, 2010, 10:10:22 pm
PM me...I can provide details of how to get the DVD playing whilst on the move.

Title: Re: RNS510 - Differences in versions b & c and firmware 1100 & 2600
Post by: JPC on February 02, 2010, 10:11:48 pm
PM me...I can provide details of how to get the DVD playing whilst on the move.



fail!!
Title: Re: RNS510 - Differences in versions b & c and firmware 1100 & 2600
Post by: devilt on February 03, 2010, 12:07:29 pm
PM me...I can provide details of how to get the DVD playing whilst on the move.



Thanks mojo, will do when I get 10 posts. You can email me if you like, email addy is in profile.
Title: Re: RNS510 - Differences in versions b & c and firmware 1100 & 2600
Post by: devilt on February 03, 2010, 12:07:45 pm
PM me...I can provide details of how to get the DVD playing whilst on the move.



fail!!

Fail?
Title: Re: RNS510 - Differences in versions b & c and firmware 1100 & 2600
Post by: Lyons on February 03, 2010, 12:10:54 pm
I assume because you arent able to PM at present...
Title: Re: RNS510 - Differences in versions b & c and firmware 1100 & 2600
Post by: Lyons on February 03, 2010, 12:12:51 pm
Theres brief instructions of the procedure required to enable playing a dvd while driving in here;

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=7204.msg111903#msg111903

Title: Re: RNS510 - Differences in versions b & c and firmware 1100 & 2600
Post by: devilt on February 03, 2010, 12:14:00 pm
I assume because you arent able to PM at present...

Ah, yes that would make sense!
Title: Re: RNS510 - Differences in versions b & c and firmware 1100 & 2600
Post by: devilt on February 03, 2010, 12:14:44 pm
Theres brief instructions of the procedure required to enable playing a dvd while driving in here;

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=7204.msg111903#msg111903



Brilliant.
Title: Re: RNS510 - Differences in versions b & c and firmware 1100 & 2600
Post by: Lyons on February 03, 2010, 12:17:07 pm
No problem. As mine is fw1100, ive never tried it myself.
Title: Re: RNS510 - Differences in versions b & c and firmware 1100 & 2600
Post by: devilt on February 03, 2010, 12:33:46 pm
Is there a reason why shouldn't try it on the fw1100?
Title: Re: RNS510 - Differences in versions b & c and firmware 1100 & 2600
Post by: Lyons on February 03, 2010, 12:38:13 pm
182_blue mentioned it had to be 2680.

Ill try it on the way home this evening to see if i can get Alan Partridge talking to me while i drive!
Title: Re: RNS510 - Differences in versions b & c and firmware 1100 & 2600
Post by: devilt on February 03, 2010, 12:50:12 pm
Nice one, would be nice to know, I don't get my unit till next week.
Title: Re: RNS510 - Differences in versions b & c and firmware 1100 & 2600
Post by: devilt on February 03, 2010, 09:34:59 pm
Any luck Lyons?
Title: Re: RNS510 - Differences in versions b & c and firmware 1100 & 2600
Post by: xxx_mojo_xxx on February 03, 2010, 10:28:11 pm
PM me...I can provide details of how to get the DVD playing whilst on the move.



Thanks mojo, will do when I get 10 posts. You can email me if you like, email addy is in profile.

Sorry for not getting back sooner devilt.  I think Lyon has kindly dug out the forum post...

Let me know if you need any further info.
Title: Re: RNS510 - Differences in versions b & c and firmware 1100 & 2600
Post by: xxx_mojo_xxx on February 03, 2010, 10:29:50 pm
I can confirm the DVD playback "hack" works on firmware 1200 and 2600.  I have a rev. C unit.
Title: Re: RNS510 - Differences in versions b & c and firmware 1100 & 2600
Post by: devilt on February 03, 2010, 10:31:47 pm
Nice one.

I am getting a version B as I have a 56 GTi, how old is your car? If old as mine do you suffer from battery drainage?
Title: Re: RNS510 - Differences in versions b & c and firmware 1100 & 2600
Post by: Lyons on February 03, 2010, 10:36:24 pm
APologies, forgot all about it! I have a dvd sitting beside my keys so ill try it in the morning.

My car is 07 and i have a version B with no battery drain.

FW1100 doesnt suffer from battery drain.
Title: Re: RNS510 - Differences in versions b & c and firmware 1100 & 2600
Post by: xxx_mojo_xxx on February 03, 2010, 10:52:52 pm
Nice one.

I am getting a version B as I have a 56 GTi, how old is your car? If old as mine do you suffer from battery drainage?
I think the battery drainage issue is related to the CANBUS revision...anything above later than rev. K is fine... may be someone on the forum can elaborate further...
Title: Re: RNS510 - Differences in versions b & c and firmware 1100 & 2600
Post by: Lyons on February 04, 2010, 07:50:16 am
No joy im afraid.   :sad1:
Title: Re: RNS510 - Differences in versions b & c and firmware 1100 & 2600
Post by: devilt on February 04, 2010, 09:40:36 pm
No worries, thanks for checking.
Title: Re: RNS510 - Differences in versions b & c and firmware 1100 & 2600
Post by: devilt on February 04, 2010, 09:42:07 pm

I think the battery drainage issue is related to the CANBUS revision...anything above later than rev. K is fine... may be someone on the forum can elaborate further...

Thanks. Do you know how I can check what Canbus version I have.

Also is it quite easy to upgrade from 1200 to 2600?
Title: Re: RNS510 - Differences in versions b & c and firmware 1100 & 2600
Post by: xxx_mojo_xxx on February 04, 2010, 09:47:23 pm
VCDS (VAG-COM) tells which revision of the canbus is installed.

I have the image for 2600 - which I can some how get over to you.
Title: Re: RNS510 - Differences in versions b & c and firmware 1100 & 2600
Post by: devilt on February 04, 2010, 10:04:05 pm
VCDS (VAG-COM) tells which revision of the canbus is installed.

I have the image for 2600 - which I can some how get over to you.

That would be good, I will give you a shout when I need it. Still one thing confusing the hell out of me, the difference between a B version and a C version.

I read the C version has DAB, so does this mean it is the whole RNS510 unit that is different?
Title: Re: RNS510 - Differences in versions b & c and firmware 1100 & 2600
Post by: xxx_mojo_xxx on February 04, 2010, 10:26:24 pm
I have rev C - and it certainly doesn't have DAB.
Title: Re: RNS510 - Differences in versions b & c and firmware 1100 & 2600
Post by: ollie288 on February 04, 2010, 10:27:58 pm
Have you added the DAB aerial?
In a thread it says that the C has DAB.  :confused:
Title: Re: RNS510 - Differences in versions b & c and firmware 1100 & 2600
Post by: xxx_mojo_xxx on February 04, 2010, 10:30:07 pm
No where in the menu system is there a DAB option...not even "greyed" out (disabled).

Where would the DAB aerial normally be situated?
Title: Re: RNS510 - Differences in versions b & c and firmware 1100 & 2600
Post by: devilt on February 04, 2010, 10:31:04 pm
Mmm, you may have an earlier version of C then, look at the first post on page 10 of this thread:

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=9605.135
Title: Re: RNS510 - Differences in versions b & c and firmware 1100 & 2600
Post by: ollie288 on February 04, 2010, 10:32:07 pm
Unsure where it fits I just read the thread that is linked above.  :happy2:
Title: Re: RNS510 - Differences in versions b & c and firmware 1100 & 2600
Post by: devilt on February 13, 2010, 06:14:37 pm
Got my RNS510 installed this morning, looks brilliant.

Just an update on the DAB, although I am not sure which version I have (no idea how to check), I have the DAB option.

Basically what you need to is hold down the 'set-up' button when you turn the unit on and after a few seconds a menu will appear, which gives a list of radio options.

I need to speak to Darren who supplied me the unit to ask what version this is and whether the DAB will actually work if a DAB aerial is plugged in.
Title: Re: RNS510 - Differences in versions b & c and firmware 1100 & 2600
Post by: ollie288 on February 13, 2010, 06:39:48 pm
There should be a part number on the label of the unit. It will end in a,b or c. If you have it hooked it up you can get it to come on the screen. Think it is in the settings somewhere.  :happy2:
Title: Re: RNS510 - Differences in versions b & c and firmware 1100 & 2600
Post by: devilt on February 13, 2010, 06:45:48 pm
Thanks will check it later on, missus has took the car out.

I have read that if you hold down the set-up button for 20 seconds after powering the unit up you can bring up a hidden menu that will allow you to see the firmware/version on the unit. Tried it but it doesn't work.

Title: Re: RNS510 - Differences in versions b & c and firmware 1100 & 2600
Post by: ollie288 on February 13, 2010, 06:53:18 pm
Thanks will check it later on, missus has took the car out.

I have read that if you hold down the set-up button for 20 seconds after powering the unit up you can bring up a hidden menu that will allow you to see the firmware/version on the unit. Tried it but it doesn't work.



I think I have read somewhere that the hidden menu has to be activated in VCDS on some RNS's.  :happy2:
Title: Re: RNS510 - Differences in versions b & c and firmware 1100 & 2600
Post by: 182_blue on February 13, 2010, 06:55:35 pm
Thanks will check it later on, missus has took the car out.

I have read that if you hold down the set-up button for 20 seconds after powering the unit up you can bring up a hidden menu that will allow you to see the firmware/version on the unit. Tried it but it doesn't work.



I think I have read somewhere that the hidden menu has to be activated in VCDS on some RNS's.  :happy2:

it does indeed
Title: Re: RNS510 - Differences in versions b & c and firmware 1100 & 2600
Post by: devilt on February 13, 2010, 06:58:50 pm
Thanks. What version of VCDS do I need for my MK5 Golf Gti?
Title: Re: RNS510 - Differences in versions b & c and firmware 1100 & 2600
Post by: 182_blue on February 13, 2010, 07:14:39 pm
Thanks. What version of VCDS do I need for my MK5 Golf Gti?

Any proper VCDS cable will do it, i.e micro can etc
Title: Re: RNS510 - Differences in versions b & c and firmware 1100 & 2600
Post by: devilt on February 13, 2010, 07:22:47 pm
Thanks, but what I meant was which one of these do I need the left (908) or on the right (409): http://www.ross-tech.com/vcds/download/
Title: Re: RNS510 - Differences in versions b & c and firmware 1100 & 2600
Post by: devilt on February 13, 2010, 07:25:56 pm
All sorted thanks to stealthwolf
Title: Re: RNS510 - Differences in versions b & c and firmware 1100 & 2600
Post by: stealthwolf on February 14, 2010, 03:33:01 am
No worries  :happy2: