MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: shoaybmakda on May 08, 2017, 11:43:38 am
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Hi all
I have recently purchased some mk6 clocks to fit into a mk5 golf Gti.
I've been told however that the ABS pump may need updating. I haven't checked yet what version I have but as it's an 05 plate I'm going on the premise that it will need updating.
I have read that the version Q is the one to go for - are these pumps hard to change and is there any how to's available? And is the below part all I would need?
http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/162501280194?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&_mwBanner=1
Thanks
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You would need BE pump. Apart from that you need a bracket for it and brake pipework for a front wheels as in mk60ec1 are opposite to mk60. Additionally some rewiring / pin out changes on pump loom plug. I can pist a parts lists later on if interested.
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Can someone also confirm if newer Can gateway and MK6 Golf steering wheel is needed as well?
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Can someone also confirm if newer Can gateway and MK6 Golf steering wheel is needed as well?
No need for a newer steering wheel, at worse you'll need to upgrade the steering wheel module for the CH revision.
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Can someone also confirm if newer Can gateway and MK6 Golf steering wheel is needed as well?
No need for a newer steering wheel, at worse you'll need to upgrade the steering wheel module for the CH revision.
I had already newer Gateway and CH Steering module before doing an ABS swap and clocks swap, so not 100% sure. With newer clocks TPMS is done via cluster hence might need a gateway swap for a newer one.
List of parts:
1K2 614 235 C Pump bracket 1
1K0 614 235 D Pump bracket 2
1K2 614 723 F Brake Line left
1k2 614 724 M Brake Line right
About pumps: (pick one depends on the functions you want to have)
ESP, XDS, HHC - 1K0 907 379 (AJ/ AT/ BE/ BJ/ BL)
ESP, XDS, ---- - 1K0 907 379 (AH/ AS/ BD/ BH/ BK)
ESP, ----, HHC - 1K0 907 379 (AE/ AP)
Wiring modification:
(https://s12.postimg.org/9iqr4501p/esp.jpg)
Regards
Cr33D
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I've just checked and I have a Q revision module - 1k0 907 379 Q
Would this module be okay to install a black and white cluster?
The clocks that I am looking to fit are from a golf plus
Thanks
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From what years is your mk5 build?
I think mk5 gti's that was build efter 8/2006 (MY2007) has an ABS unit that will work with the newer clusters.
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@Christiank (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=17442) my car is a 2005 build I think but it is registered as a 2007 as it is an import back into the UK from Dubai.
I read this thread which says it should be ok but I've been told by Alex that it's too old:
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,93520.15.html
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I think the Q version is fine? I have a MY2005 car with the "K" so I did the Mk60 to Mk60ec1 swap :)
didn't know that the Q revisions was fitted from that early on.. Good to know.
I think my mates GTI also has the Q version and he didn't have to change anything.
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From what years is your mk5 build?
I think mk5 gti's that was build efter 8/2006 (MY2007) has an ABS unit that will work with the newer clusters.
No the mk5 need to be MY2009, so they have to have been built after 08/2008, like my GT Sport. My Ed. 30 is a MY2008 and still has the MK60 ABS pump.
My GT Sport came with a Q rev CAN Gateway and my Ed. 30 had a L rev CAN Gateway.
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I've spoken to Eddie NL who has advised my abs pump is okay to go with
So no idea what to do with it now?
My dilemma is Eddie is 3 hours away from me and my current situation is I can't take 3 hours out of my day to get to him.
Alex on the other hand is 45 mins away but he's advised my pump is too old!
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I've spoken to Eddie NL who has advised my abs pump is okay to go with
So no idea what to do with it now?
My dilemma is Eddie is 3 hours away from me and my current situation is I can't take 3 hours out of my day to get to him.
Alex on the other hand is 45 mins away but he's advised my pump is too old!
Can you confirm that Eddie knows that your ABS pump is a MK60 and not a MK60EC1? Maybe he confused the part number...
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@Shoduchi (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=10590) how do you check which one it is?
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@Shoduchi (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=10590) how do you check which one it is?
With a VCDS scan of the ABS module.
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you can still make it work with a Mk60 unit if the electronic module is newer than the "K" revision I think - There's a few thread on the internet about it you search for it.
That way you'll don't need to change the pump and brake pipes.
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Just checked and it just says MK60
Have sent Eddie a message anyway just incase.
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Seems like it will all be a bit too much for me to sort out. I'm not sure if my pump is too old or not and not sure if I will need a new steering wheel/abs pump/CECM module/cruise control stalk to get it all working correctly.
Clocks will be going up for sale soon which is a shame as I was really looking forward to having a black and white display!
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Talk to whoever can do the retrofit for you. Send them the VCDS scan of your Golf and ask which parts you need to source to do the retrofits that you want. :wink:
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@Eddie-NL
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Your ABS pump is ok for white clusters. As Eddie-NL said:
Works ok:
1K0 907 379 Q
1K0 907 379 AA
1K0 907 379 AC
My Ed. 30 being MY2008 has an AC rev ABS pump, so it's also compatible, although still MK60. My GT Sport has an AD rev ABS pump, so it's the 1st rev that changed to MK60EC1. :smiley:
Only now I've read properly the topic. :signLOL:
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Thanks @Shoduchi (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=10590) for taking the time - not sure if you can answer this question.
Will I need a mk6 steering wheel to make it work? They are golf plus clocks
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Thanks @Shoduchi (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=10590) for taking the time - not sure if you can answer this question.
Will I need a mk6 steering wheel to make it work? They are golf plus clocks
No you can keep your current steering wheel. You might need to update the steering wheel control module. The CH rev is compatible with all. Ask Eddie if you need it. Not that expensive to get, if needed.
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The mk6 cluster doesn't fit the mk5 does it?
I know the Touran, Scirocco and Tiguan fit the mk5, but pretty sure that mk6 cluster is a different shape and has other placement to attach the dust cover from the top of the steering rack box?
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@Christiank (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=17442) i think this one is out of a touran..or a golf plus. but it was used in a 2007 golf before and comes with the loom.
hoping it fit mines! will be taking a trip to eddie once i have some time. thanks for your help and advise guys its much appreciated!
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Any pump with revision S or higher works fine.
Doesn't apply to 4motion cars as all of them works fine
Mk6 clocks can be coded in mk5 but you need Scirocco, Eos, Plus or Tiguan casing for it.
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My current pump is a K version so needs replacing for colour cluster.
I have an AC version to fit, but want to be certain about the front brake likes.
As far as i have read, some people say the pump bolts straight in place, others say the front brake lines are swapped. If they are swapped, do you have to replace the lines with the part numbers further up the thread, or can they be bent to go to their new position?
Thanks