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Title: Chirping
Post by: Russ_leeds on February 02, 2010, 09:40:16 pm
nowthen. started my car 2nite after work and left it 2 defrost while i had a cig outside and noticed a sort of squeeking noise coming from the driver side of the bonnet. any ideas?
Title: Re: Chirping
Post by: Beddie on February 02, 2010, 09:59:27 pm
Could well be the noisy cambelt syndrome...   :fighting:

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=10091.0
Title: Re: Chirping
Post by: Golfgirl on February 02, 2010, 10:07:07 pm
If it disappears after the car has warmed up it's likely to be the cambelt issue that Beddie mentions!
Title: Re: Chirping
Post by: Russ_leeds on February 02, 2010, 10:15:07 pm
Cheers. thing is got the dealer to look over the car last week as  i was unhappy with how it sounded on tickover and they said nothing was wrong with it. looks like its goin back again then :sad1:
Title: Re: Chirping
Post by: Beddie on February 02, 2010, 10:20:31 pm
Its a well known problem now mate, just stick to your guns with the dealer  :happy2:
Title: Re: Chirping
Post by: Russ_leeds on February 02, 2010, 11:21:38 pm
ok cheers ill take it down at the weekend
Title: Re: Chirping
Post by: JLCoad on February 03, 2010, 08:42:42 am
Yep its definitely the belt. When i took my ed30 in a few months ago they said there was nothing wrong but the noise persisted. Got it changed on the warranty (cambelt and tensioner) last week and all is fine now!!!
Title: Re: Chirping
Post by: vRStu on February 03, 2010, 08:53:52 am
My S3 was doing it as well, really annoying.
Title: Re: Chirping
Post by: vRS Carl on February 03, 2010, 08:57:25 am
My S3 was doing it as well, really annoying.

Told you that you need to give me your engine  :P

Carl :happy2:
Title: Re: Chirping
Post by: Lyons on February 03, 2010, 09:52:01 am
If it disappears after the car has warmed up it's likely to be the cambelt issue that Beddie mentions!

Oh balls, i thought it was only the cambelt issue if it didnt go away after the car warmed up?

EDIT; it appears i was incorrect! My car is out of warranty now but im still not convinced my noise is the same as described above. From reading a few other forums it appears some folk are saying they've had a number of things replaced to cure the noise; belt, tensioner, nelt for alternator etc?! I dont want to be repalcing something that isnt actually going to solve the problem, as im going to have to pay for any work.
Title: Re: Chirping
Post by: SteveyD on February 03, 2010, 11:33:19 am
Lyons your prob right about the tensioner, that's what Beddie means when he says cambelt.  As we speak vw are doing mine.  The problem lies with the tensioner not working correctly from cold, causing the belt to run un-tensioned correctly until warm.  When you change a cambelt you should always change the tensioner too (I think there about £13), and if you was to change the tensioner you would have to change the cambelt anyway because it has to be removed.

If you wanted to eliminate the alternator belt simply remove it and start the car cold.  In betting your noise is a whirling/cheeping/oscilating noise caused by every complete revolution of the belt.

I had to stick to my guns with vw but after grabbing the technician and having him listen with me, I'm having my work done today.  If your out of warenty pop the cambelt cover off and inspect the belt for wear/tear, start the engine and keeping fingers, ties and tools clear from moving items.... Have a look as it's moving.
Title: Re: Chirping
Post by: Lyons on February 03, 2010, 12:05:59 pm
I'd be keen to hear if any of the folk that have got the belt work done, still have a "belt turning" noise coming from that area, or if its now super silent. If the former, then id be pretty confident thats all mine is...
Title: Re: Chirping
Post by: JLCoad on February 03, 2010, 01:25:45 pm
I had the noise before i had the belt and tensioner changed under warranty last week. Before the noise was really noticable, especially when cold but was less so when the throttle was engaged but this was only because if the throttle is engaged the belt is going round faster. Since the car has come back it is super quiet and driving like a dream.
Title: Re: Chirping
Post by: Russ_leeds on February 03, 2010, 04:27:33 pm
cheers every1. ill let u no the outcome after the weekend.
Title: Re: Chirping
Post by: Lyons on February 04, 2010, 05:25:25 pm
My local dealer is doing the belt kit fitted for £249 on special offer at the minute. However, im reluctant to go ahead if the noise i hear is perfectly natural  :confused:
Title: Re: Chirping
Post by: SteveyD on February 04, 2010, 10:03:30 pm
£249 is a pretty good price, its a 2-3 hour job.  How old is your car, it needs a cambelt at least every 5 years anyway.
Title: Re: Chirping
Post by: Lyons on February 04, 2010, 10:06:29 pm
It just turned 3 in January with 20k.
Title: Re: Chirping
Post by: SteveyD on February 04, 2010, 10:11:53 pm
damn really? so your out of warrenty by 1 month.... 

then perhaps start a thread on here of everyone who has had the same problem and use it to get the job done under goodwill.  you might at least get some monney off.  Just dont use VW Warrington (see my post)
Title: Re: Chirping
Post by: Russ_leeds on February 17, 2010, 08:07:30 pm
ok, so just got my car bac from the stealers and they reckon they've sorted the noise.
turns out it was the alternator belt and they have replaced this under warranty. has any 1 heard of this before?
cant tell if its gone untill 2morro as it only did it from fully cold.
cheers
Title: Re: Chirping
Post by: Lyons on February 17, 2010, 08:47:04 pm
Ill be keen to hear if its sorted it tomorrow!
Title: Re: Chirping
Post by: Lyons on February 17, 2010, 08:50:30 pm
If you wanted to eliminate the alternator belt simply remove it and start the car cold. 

Id be keen to try this to at least determine if its the cambelt, or alternator belt as per Russ experienced.

However i havent a clue about mechanical stuff. Where exactly is the alternator and belt, and how can it be removed?! Is it straight forward?
Title: Re: Chirping
Post by: Russ_leeds on February 18, 2010, 09:41:54 pm
got home from work 2nite and started the car...........
and there was the noise again!!!!  :mad:
Title: Re: Chirping
Post by: Lyons on February 18, 2010, 09:45:45 pm
Uh oh.

Was the cambelt issue mentioned at all when you had the car in? Did they check it?
Title: Re: Chirping
Post by: Russ_leeds on February 18, 2010, 10:00:53 pm
yeah i sed i know sum1 who had this prob and it was the cambelt and tensioner n they sed they'd never heard of any cases???
not only this but the headlights keep steamin up with condensation inside and they sed they were within the parameters and wouldnt change those!!
gettin pissed off now only had the car a month
Title: Re: Chirping
Post by: NB07 on February 18, 2010, 10:12:54 pm
if the sales man has any common sense he will sort it for you otherwise you need to look in to telling him you want you money back. there are laws and regulations that he must behold otherwise i wouldnt be very happy with him or the branch for selling a car that they didnt check thoroughly.

I had the same thing nearly a year ago and was lucky that they did any thing in the end but persevered and got it fixed under warranty.

its a common problem with these engines across the range (audis, seats, skoda's all suffering the same) so i suggest you say to them, not that you read something on the internet, but you are concerned that the car you bought isnt in working order and its nothing to do with the alternator they replaced but could be something else, like a friend said it was the cam belt and tensioner. if they dont sort it properly then they will be breaching the terms of the warranty.     
Title: Re: Chirping
Post by: Russ_leeds on February 18, 2010, 10:22:01 pm
cheers going to ring them 2morro n see wat they say
Title: Re: Chirping
Post by: nc35 on February 18, 2010, 10:46:39 pm
My local dealer is doing the belt kit fitted for £249 on special offer at the minute. However, im reluctant to go ahead if the noise i hear is perfectly natural  :confused:

care to tell which dealer? JCT Bradford will match or beat any genuine quote.
Think mine is just about due. Nearly 5yrs & 55k
Title: Re: Chirping
Post by: Lyons on February 19, 2010, 01:06:23 am
I think it was Verve on Glasgow.
Title: Re: Chirping
Post by: Rob GTI on February 25, 2010, 09:38:04 pm
Just for the record I had the chirping in my Ed 30 and today it was changed with with no question under warranty they also did the roller, tensioner and water pump at the same time (the water pump was not originally planned but when they had the rest off they noticed it was weaping from the seal.)

So overall a result especially as it winds the time I need to pay for it back a to 5 yrs or 60k or whatever the book says.
Title: Re: Chirping
Post by: Russ_leeds on February 25, 2010, 10:12:19 pm
mines booked back in on tue for a couple of days so they should sort it this time