MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Sat Nav and Car Audio => Topic started by: DanoGTI on February 03, 2010, 08:08:16 pm
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Been offered some 6.5" speakers. Will they go in the Golf? My understanding is that this is a 16.5cm speaker. So, I'll need either MDF spacers or the Autoleads ones....
IF they do, I've also got the speaker depth - just under 6cm.
Will they go in the front doors without smashing the windows when they're down?
Thoughts ASAP :smiley:
DAn :happy2:
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i put 16.5cm in the front of mine and made mdf spacers,no probs at all :happy2:
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sweet
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yes you'll be fine with the depth aswell you can space the speaker out a fair bit if needed. :happy2:
You've probably got a router anway but if you need a set of baffles spinning out let me know mate.
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165 and 6.5 are the same size. Metric v Imperial.
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OEM mid-bass drivers in Golf 5 have 180mm. Most car-audio manufacturers use 165mm (16.5 drivers). You will need an MDF ring for accomodating the new 165mm driver and it will also improve sound quality by better vibration control as opposed to the OEM plastic adapters !
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I'm not happy with the auto leads adapters I really wish I used MDF.
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Another thing you should take into acount regarding mk5 acoustics. Unfortunately, the location of the mid-bass driver towards the rear of the door is the worst possible as puting the 2 drivers in a colinear position with your head/years would yield phase problems. No matter how expensive and good the aftermarket drivers would be, you will never get ptoper low frequency response until you relocate the driver towards the front of the door (of course this means modifying the entire door panel and plastic face) !
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yeh, not too worried about the 6.5" driver position (speaker, not teeny weeny person! :grin: ) - got a rather nice sub going in the wheel arch, so bass is addressed.....
Looking at the Autoleads adapters - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-GOLF-MK5-FRONT-DOOR-SPEAKER-ADAPTOR-SAK-3108_W0QQitemZ250410479620QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_FasciaPlates_SM?hash=item3a4da0b004 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-GOLF-MK5-FRONT-DOOR-SPEAKER-ADAPTOR-SAK-3108_W0QQitemZ250410479620QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_FasciaPlates_SM?hash=item3a4da0b004)(only £13)
How much for some MDF ones?
DAn
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/6-5-17cm-MDF-Speaker-Spacer-Ring-Template-18mm-1pair_W0QQitemZ290409969196QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Audio_TV_Electronics_In_Car_Entertainment_GPS_Car_Speakers_PP?hash=item439dc8762c
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D'Oh! I'm not actually thinking this one through! :stupid:
Firstly, a BIG thanks to Luke at Plush. And to GTI Jal for the link.
Now, I work at a rather pleasant FE college..... with a woodwork department..... with a lovely lecturer called Colin...... who runs the woodwork department.... with a fantastic chap called Nigel...... we play Golf together........ see where this is going? :grin:
I can get some offcuts of MDF and the rest is history really :happy2:
BUT again, a BIG thanks to those who've offered their services and advice :happy2:
Now, one final thing - fixing the spacers to the door? Recommendations?
The doors will also be sound-proofed :wink:
Dan :laugh:
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Better go to a car-audio shaop and have them custom made on your car and with your drivers !
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And admit defeat?!!! NEVER!! :grin:
I enjoy the challenge of playing :happy2:
Dan
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Well, an update for you - brought the speakers to work today and got measuring up for my MDF spacers (I've got full access to a woodwork shop!)....
So the old VW "bass" driver is 180mm in diameter.
Got out my tape measure to check the diameter of the new drivers......
And they're the same!! :grin:
Soooo...... all I'm going to do, as these are a little bit deeper, is make some rings up (identical diameter) and use some thin MDF just to bring the driver out a bit. (The voice coil area is 60mm, compared to VW's 55mm)
LOL - the virtues of buying all this kit, putting it away and forgetting about it!! :grin:
Dan
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What drivers are those ? Most use 165mm. 180mm is a standard for home-audio drivers usually. If you can, use 20mm MDF to better dampen the vibrations of the driver. The more rigid the area holding the driver, the more music you'll hear instead of vibrations adding to the sound ! This would translate into crispier and cleaner sound !
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They're SPL components. Looks like aluminium drivers.
Got them really cheap so I've got nothing to lose by putting them in - they can't be any worse than the VW OEM stuff :grin:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fv91%2FScoobyDoo555%2FSPLsize.jpg&hash=b36de2f35360a37c9125eb3f9fa3e6cb308c5ac6)
I'd thought the same thing about audio wave transference between surfaces (I'm a pro Sound Engineer by trade :happy2: ). Will be interested to see how they sound.
I'm treating this more as an experiment to see what can actually be done - going to document it at the same time and put it in my Project build :happy2:
Also got a load of acoustic foam and Dynamat to install too - busy weekend!!
Dan
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Dano,
PM'd you re the facia. May I suggest you trace the rivet holes and mark the trim rings with them, drill pilots and use hex headed screws from the back. Being pedantic I'd cover the screws in something to rust proof it.
A 1/4 inch square drive will work just fine to tighten them up. You'll probably need a proper fastener supplier to find the hex headed screws.
Here's what I mean by hex heads...
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sadoun.com%2FSat%2FProducts%2FS%2FHex_Screws.jpg&hash=28fa201be6d90b8cc327212f0726000073c5cfad)
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Thanks mate - actually got a load of those in shed :happy2:
Dan
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http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,11306.15.html