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Title: anyone running SACHS clutch at high power applications ?
Post by: poko on February 04, 2010, 10:06:50 am
Hi ,
I am now about to upgrade my clutch.
i am thinking on SACHS sport cover + pressure plate.

it is rated at 480nm / 350lb/ft / 48kg/m

i am going to have (hopefully) around 20% more than this .

the question is , do you know if this kit is under rated and could hold around 20% more ?

i really preffer to keep the dual mass flywheel setup.
Title: Re: anyone running SACHS clutch at high power applications ?
Post by: robern2 on February 04, 2010, 10:52:06 am
Unfortunately I dont have the part numbers to hand, it may be in a different thread though.
My ed30 (360bhp) is having a Sachs clutch fitted next saturday at rtech power along with new release bearing.
Assuming there is no major damage to the DMF, it wont be replaced.
Title: Re: anyone running SACHS clutch at high power applications ?
Post by: jonnyc on February 04, 2010, 10:57:24 am
Ran this with my VF 2871R kit.. Worked just fine
Title: Re: anyone running SACHS clutch at high power applications ?
Post by: poko on February 04, 2010, 11:09:36 am
Ran this with my VF 2871R kit.. Worked just fine

how much power did you make with the 2871r ? did you use the organic plate ?

i forgot, what are you running now ?

without going to specifics of my install ... i estimate it will dyno at around 480hp.

Title: Re: anyone running SACHS clutch at high power applications ?
Post by: jonnyc on February 04, 2010, 11:29:16 am
Ran this with my VF 2871R kit.. Worked just fine

how much power did you make with the 2871r ? did you use the organic plate ?

i forgot, what are you running now ?

without going to specifics of my install ... i estimate it will dyno at around 480hp.



Made 417hp / 385tq and yes it was the organic plate.. Im running DSG  :wink:

You have to at least say what turbo lol..
Title: Re: anyone running SACHS clutch at high power applications ?
Post by: poko on February 04, 2010, 12:04:59 pm
much smaller than yours  :wink:
Title: Re: anyone running SACHS clutch at high power applications ?
Post by: jonnyc on February 04, 2010, 12:43:00 pm
much smaller than yours  :wink:

Ha.. Well good luck making that power then  :happy2:
Title: Re: anyone running SACHS clutch at high power applications ?
Post by: tony_danza on February 04, 2010, 12:48:48 pm
Is it this one?

Disclaimer: joke.

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Title: Re: anyone running SACHS clutch at high power applications ?
Post by: poko on February 04, 2010, 01:14:35 pm
ahmm ... , what , have you guys never seen a 500hp k03 ?

anyhow we will wait and see.

i will post this project up in due time , it is done in stages and gets coverage in israeli car media. so i am not really allowed to discuss it too much until it gets posted by them first.

however , every single stage is backed up with logs and dyno's so i will not be throwing just numbers.

in any case , i am still on my k04 OEM setup for now and the BT parts are due to arrive to israel in the following week , however physical install is a month or so away since we have to do some other stages in the middle.

and i AM using WMI in my car , so we're not in the same play field.
Title: Re: anyone running SACHS clutch at high power applications ?
Post by: jonnyc on February 04, 2010, 01:33:43 pm
ahmm ... , what , have you guys never seen a 500hp k03 ?

anyhow we will wait and see.

i will post this project up in due time , it is done in stages and gets coverage in israeli car media. so i am not really allowed to discuss it too much until it gets posted by them first.

however , every single stage is backed up with logs and dyno's so i will not be throwing just numbers.

in any case , i am still on my k04 OEM setup for now and the BT parts are due to arrive to israel in the following week , however physical install is a month or so away since we have to do some other stages in the middle.

and i AM using WMI in my car , so we're not in the same play field.

Hehe.. Wish you the best of luck mate, should be an awesome car!  :smiley:
Title: Re: anyone running SACHS clutch at high power applications ?
Post by: poko on February 04, 2010, 01:41:11 pm
there are a lot of extra parts i need i would be glad to strip from your car :)

the problem is that there is absoloutly nothing avilable in israel for a high end tune and i have to ship everything from the USA or UK and wait , wait , wait and than pay 85% tax on top of that.

a real bummer.
Title: Re: anyone running SACHS clutch at high power applications ?
Post by: jonnyc on February 04, 2010, 02:00:26 pm
there are a lot of extra parts i need i would be glad to strip from your car :)

the problem is that there is absoloutly nothing avilable in israel for a high end tune and i have to ship everything from the USA or UK and wait , wait , wait and than pay 85% tax on top of that.

a real bummer.

Are you already running a this Sachs clutch? If so then I wouldnt worry, but if your currently standard I would say there are other clutches out there which are better..

I ran the Southbend Stage 5 on my S3 and it was brilliant!!
Title: Re: anyone running SACHS clutch at high power applications ?
Post by: poko on February 04, 2010, 02:04:43 pm
i don't have it yet, i am going to buy one.

i am really afraid of SB!

a guy here running apr stage III has just orderd a SB stage 3 and the flywheel is making noises like a tractor.
it is so much noise that when he stops in a red light people comment that his car is going to blow.

he's been over the install 3 times already , it looks perfect.

also , how's the pedal feel with a stage 5 ? i am using it as a daily and i have 5 miles to work everyday in extremly condensed traffic (think central london)
Title: Re: anyone running SACHS clutch at high power applications ?
Post by: jonnyc on February 04, 2010, 02:14:16 pm
i don't have it yet, i am going to buy one.

i am really afraid of SB!

a guy here running apr stage III has just orderd a SB stage 3 and the flywheel is making noises like a tractor.
it is so much noise that when he stops in a red light people comment that his car is going to blow.

he's been over the install 3 times already , it looks perfect.

also , how's the pedal feel with a stage 5 ? i am using it as a daily and i have 5 miles to work everyday in extremly condensed traffic (think central london)

Thats normal with any single mass flywheel.. Its a trade off for outright performance..

Pedal feel is lighter than the Sachs clutch (which is a fair bit heavier than stock) it is fairly aggressive though on uptake..
Title: Re: anyone running SACHS clutch at high power applications ?
Post by: poko on February 04, 2010, 03:00:15 pm
i have no experience with uprated clutches.

and since i have to commute to work every morning , it really scares me which one to get.

my travel to work is 5 miles - takes normally between 40 minutes to an hour.

so you have to think how much clutch is used.