Post by: lukemk5gti on July 13, 2017, 08:50:40 am
Mine is looking a bit grey and although I could clean it up I actually fancy a change.
Now that photobucket has crapped it, all of the old images for reference are gone
Post by: pudding on July 13, 2017, 10:05:35 am
Post by: slix on July 13, 2017, 10:05:58 am
If I were ever to spray it again I would use an actual spray paint, either satin or Matt black.
Post by: AJP on July 13, 2017, 11:36:09 am
I think once they've got to a certain point, ie that lovely dull grey colour, you'd forever be chasing it with any kind of trim restoration product, and Plastidip might not be that durable.
There are a few old threads knocking about with photos of sprayed grilles, and to me they look spot on. A bit like those on modern RS Audis. But like Luke says, it might be fruitless trying to find those threads!
Post by: slix on July 13, 2017, 11:52:41 am
Post by: pudding on July 13, 2017, 11:57:25 am
This is one of those jobs that's been on my to-do list for ages. Not Plastidip, but getting them sprayed properly in satin or gloss black.
I think once they've got to a certain point, ie that lovely dull grey colour, you'd forever be chasing it with any kind of trim restoration product, and Plastidip might not be that durable.
There are a few old threads knocking about with photos of sprayed grilles, and to me they look spot on. A bit like those on modern RS Audis. But like Luke says, it might be fruitless trying to find those threads!
Aren't the Audi ones enameled, or anodized black or something? You have to spec it as an option. I'm just thinking paint will just chip off like the bonnet and bumper and look even more of a mess :grin:
Post by: lukemk5gti on July 13, 2017, 12:18:06 pm
One guy said after 3 coats and 6 months driving that it was still in perfect condition.
My issue is that it might look a bit strange in smoke or it might look really cool?
I reckon I'll just chance it on the upper grill first and if I like it then I'll do the rest and if not I'll buy a new Chinese upper?
Post by: mkmg76 on July 13, 2017, 12:21:37 pm
I've seen a few US threads that rave about plastidip. They say because it's rubber based that the stones nearly bounce off rather than chip.
One guy said after 3 coats and 6 months driving that it was still in perfect condition.
My issue is that it might look a bit strange in smoke or it might look really cool?
I reckon I'll just chance it on the upper grill first and if I like it then I'll do the rest and if not I'll buy a new Chinese upper?
Go for it Luke, then you can do mine! :laugh: :happy2:
Post by: pudding on July 13, 2017, 12:25:34 pm
Post by: lukemk5gti on July 13, 2017, 12:26:25 pm
Oh wait :thinking:
Post by: mkmg76 on July 13, 2017, 12:28:17 pm
Yeah you can be the forum guinea pig :happy2:
Or as my 2 year old niece says "pinny gig". :grin:
Post by: AJP on July 13, 2017, 01:44:25 pm
You're probably right pal. And no doubt not a cheap option!This is one of those jobs that's been on my to-do list for ages. Not Plastidip, but getting them sprayed properly in satin or gloss black.
I think once they've got to a certain point, ie that lovely dull grey colour, you'd forever be chasing it with any kind of trim restoration product, and Plastidip might not be that durable.
There are a few old threads knocking about with photos of sprayed grilles, and to me they look spot on. A bit like those on modern RS Audis. But like Luke says, it might be fruitless trying to find those threads!
Aren't the Audi ones enameled, or anodized black or something? You have to spec it as an option. I'm just thinking paint will just chip off like the bonnet and bumper and look even more of a mess :grin:
If anyone does try Plastidip and gets good results, post up!
Tapatalk is good for uploading photos...
Post by: slix on July 13, 2017, 04:54:21 pm
Post by: mkmg76 on July 13, 2017, 05:06:27 pm
I just did the grill plastidip. Then it made the rest of the grilles look grey. So did them all. I used Matt black colour.
Get the pics up! :happy2:
Post by: gman on July 13, 2017, 05:51:24 pm
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi67.tinypic.com%2F149p5c1.jpg&hash=86984e48632f573cadba4bedeba02356abed82f8)
Haven't washed it as yet since to the touch it seems quite soft so worried it may peel but time will tell. Looks wise turned out looking brand new but not wet look/glossy if that makes sense. I was going to paint too but couldn't be bothered so sand so thought I'd try out plastidip - easy to remove and paint later if it isn't durable too :happy2:
On an slightly related note broke 2 of the clips on the back of my GTI badge and found the eBay jobbies with the bolts coming out the back won't fit unless I drill holes where the original badge holders are - any ways round this? :confused: - OEM badge replacement seems like an expensive option
Post by: slix on July 13, 2017, 06:56:07 pm
Sorry for the very crappy pic, cropped from an old Snapchat I took. Did matte black with glossifier on top in the hope of getting a sort of gloss/wet look but came out not quite so glossy.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi67.tinypic.com%2F149p5c1.jpg&hash=86984e48632f573cadba4bedeba02356abed82f8)
Haven't washed it as yet since to the touch it seems quite soft so worried it may peel but time will tell. Looks wise turned out looking brand new but not wet look/glossy if that makes sense. I was going to paint too but couldn't be bothered so sand so thought I'd try out plastidip - easy to remove and paint later if it isn't durable too :happy2:
On an slightly related note broke 2 of the clips on the back of my GTI badge and found the eBay jobbies with the bolts coming out the back won't fit unless I drill holes where the original badge holders are - any ways round this? :confused: - OEM badge replacement seems like an expensive option
Ahh should have left gti badge in place, can peel the plastidip off of certain things remember :happy2:
Post by: AJP on July 13, 2017, 08:53:39 pm
Might be tempted to try it. Anything's better than faded grey..!
Post by: mkmg76 on July 13, 2017, 11:40:47 pm
Sorry for the very crappy pic, cropped from an old Snapchat I took. Did matte black with glossifier on top in the hope of getting a sort of gloss/wet look but came out not quite so glossy.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi67.tinypic.com%2F149p5c1.jpg&hash=86984e48632f573cadba4bedeba02356abed82f8)
Haven't washed it as yet since to the touch it seems quite soft so worried it may peel but time will tell. Looks wise turned out looking brand new but not wet look/glossy if that makes sense. I was going to paint too but couldn't be bothered so sand so thought I'd try out plastidip - easy to remove and paint later if it isn't durable too :happy2:
On an slightly related note broke 2 of the clips on the back of my GTI badge and found the eBay jobbies with the bolts coming out the back won't fit unless I drill holes where the original badge holders are - any ways round this? :confused: - OEM badge replacement seems like an expensive option
Looks great, think we're on to something here! :happy2:
Post by: TAPPY on July 14, 2017, 12:05:06 am
Prepped and then painted black form the gun and then used Matt lacquer :happy2:
Post by: 99hagued on July 14, 2017, 12:54:24 am
Post by: lukemk5gti on July 14, 2017, 08:03:29 am
Masked everything off including badge (didn't need to remove it)
Cleaned it all down with IPA and a microfibre
One can gave me 6 coats with 30 mins drying time in between
Have to say it looks amazing and the smoke plastidip is the closest to OEM that you could get
How do I upload photos now? Flickr?
Post by: RobC on July 14, 2017, 08:17:21 am
How do I upload photos now? Flickr?
I use Flickr or upload straight through the Tapatalk app.
Post by: H18Golf on July 14, 2017, 01:41:39 pm
Post by: mkmg76 on July 14, 2017, 02:24:32 pm
How do I upload photos now? Flickr?
I use Flickr or upload straight through the Tapatalk app.
There you go Luke! :wink:
(https://image.ibb.co/grFCZa/Luke.jpg)
Post by: mkmg76 on July 14, 2017, 02:29:26 pm
Post by: MIJ_JAGGER on July 14, 2017, 04:37:17 pm
(https://image.ibb.co/mZPd7v/image1.jpg)That actually looks really good, great work
Post by: gman on July 14, 2017, 05:33:09 pm
Post by: Scottymon on July 14, 2017, 05:34:11 pm
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.voodish.co.uk%2Fmisc%2Fblack-grill%252B2.jpg&hash=25b2c36044da3322c7c21e4659d5985cfe537896)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.voodish.co.uk%2Fmisc%2FIMG_3689%252B2.jpg&hash=0c61e248acbc67ca330e4e9dcab164de2b675b24)
Post by: mkmg76 on July 14, 2017, 05:49:04 pm
wow @mkmg76 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=7483) that looks factory fresh :notworthy: seems like smoke plastidip is the way to go!
I'd love to take the credit but I was just posting Lukes pictures! :signLOL:
Agreed though, looks a hell of a job. :happy2:
Post by: mkmg76 on July 14, 2017, 05:52:58 pm
Plastidip is awesome stuff, I did the Lipstick and VW badge on a spare Set it's seriously hardy stuff; I've had my winter wheels lashed with it for, geesh must be 4 years, it even goes through the drive through car wash ( I know hideous for swirls etc ) but just goes to show once it's on it's on... don't get me wrong it will peel off when encouraged but still, well worth a try... a little advice if you haven't used it before would be; warm the can/s in a bucket of " luke " warm not Hot water, and make sure your prep surface is clean, and put a fine coating on the first few coats and let dry inbetween, then you can lay it on more thickly; and clean the nossle with a clean cloth inbetween coats so you get a nice fine spray rather than clumps :)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.voodish.co.uk%2Fmisc%2Fblack-grill%252B2.jpg&hash=25b2c36044da3322c7c21e4659d5985cfe537896)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.voodish.co.uk%2Fmisc%2FIMG_3689%252B2.jpg&hash=0c61e248acbc67ca330e4e9dcab164de2b675b24)
Good tips, cheers.
Post by: AJP on July 14, 2017, 06:33:45 pm
This is now firmly on my to-do list.
Post by: H18Golf on July 19, 2017, 03:45:15 pm
I would be wanting to remove all grills to spray them, I have removed the upper grill when changing my bonnet mechanism, how are the lower middle and fog grills removed? I take it you just masked off the red grill trim @lukemk5gti (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=10176) ?
Post by: gman on July 19, 2017, 10:35:02 pm
As for removing, fog grilles pop out easily (one screw each prior to popping out ofc) and the middle one pops out too but is very stiff - need to give it a good tug but pull out evenly and not too much on one side or clips will snap. I took the red trim trim off and only broke one clip whilst doing so, not necessary I guess you could mask it.
Post by: lukemk5gti on July 20, 2017, 08:15:37 am
Think I will be doing this soon as the results look very good. Couple of questions, do you need to rub the plastic down at all to give it a key to stick? Also what plastidip did people go for, any links would be good?
I would be wanting to remove all grills to spray them, I have removed the upper grill when changing my bonnet mechanism, how are the lower middle and fog grills removed? I take it you just masked off the red grill trim @lukemk5gti (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=10176) ?
You don't need to sand it down to give it a surface to stick onto.
The trick is to spray 2 very light and fine layers first with 30mins drying time. It leaves the surface kind of sandy looking and then all future layers will stick to that.
You do need to ensure it is completely free of any foreign matter though. I spent maybe 30 mins with a microfibre and IPA cleaning each individual comb.
I went for the SMOKE one, it's name is actually smoke. eBay does it for maybe £12
I masked them off and used a brand new blade to cut the line perfectly flush. You could also use this as an opportunity to remove the red strip and spray that but don't forget to lacquer if you do.
Grille removal covered by gman.
Post by: ROH ECHT on July 20, 2017, 04:39:05 pm
https://www.google.com/search?q=no+touch+tire&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjrstyrmJjVAhVB-mMKHen-C04Q_AUIDCgD&biw=1173&bih=529#imgrc=RSEfAdPiQ2PLoM:
Post by: pudding on July 21, 2017, 12:16:43 pm
Think I will be doing this soon as the results look very good. Couple of questions, do you need to rub the plastic down at all to give it a key to stick? Also what plastidip did people go for, any links would be good?
I would be wanting to remove all grills to spray them, I have removed the upper grill when changing my bonnet mechanism, how are the lower middle and fog grills removed? I take it you just masked off the red grill trim @lukemk5gti (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=10176) ?
You don't need to sand it down to give it a surface to stick onto.
The trick is to spray 2 very light and fine layers first with 30mins drying time. It leaves the surface kind of sandy looking and then all future layers will stick to that.
You do need to ensure it is completely free of any foreign matter though. I spent maybe 30 mins with a microfibre and IPA cleaning each individual comb.
I went for the SMOKE one, it's name is actually smoke. eBay does it for maybe £12
I masked them off and used a brand new blade to cut the line perfectly flush. You could also use this as an opportunity to remove the red strip and spray that but don't forget to lacquer if you do.
Grille removal covered by gman.
The excitement was building until I read that :grin: I am way too lazy to do that. I'm wondering if buying a brand new one and spraying that would be kool and the gang for a lazy oik like me?
What you've done looks great though! Can you get glossy plastidip? I'm thinking it would be a good (temporary) way to cover the stone chipped to death lower sections of my bumper. Having a black car, I don't mind putting black shades on high impact areas that aren't quite factory black.
Post by: mkmg76 on July 21, 2017, 01:13:57 pm
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:signLOL: at least you're honest!
Post by: pudding on July 21, 2017, 02:03:00 pm
The excitement was building until I read that :grin: I am way too lazy to do that. I'm wondering if buying a brand new one and spraying that would be kool and the gang for a lazy oik like me?
:signLOL: at least you're honest!
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I really don't enjoy the bodywork / interior side of cars at all! I prefer the oily bits and driving it :smiley:
Post by: Dave_d on August 26, 2017, 06:28:02 pm
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