MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => How to Guides / Troubleshooting => Topic started by: Lewo on September 14, 2017, 08:44:36 pm
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Any ideas what this could be?
Parked up after a 20 miles drive, 3 hrs later and there was a squeaky type noise from the left side looking from the front when I started the engine.
I didn't think about filming it then....it didn't sound good but no lights on the dash and I was 200 miles from home.
https://vimeo.com/233885530 (https://vimeo.com/233885530)
https://vimeo.com/233885596 (https://vimeo.com/233885596)
I am no mechanic.... :smiley:
Thanks in advance :happy2:
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Any ideas folks?
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Simply take the auxilary belt off and that will greatly assist in identifying the noise.
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Is that easy enough to do?
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Is that easy enough to do?
Watch this and decided if you've got the ability and tools
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n3tzsT_sX2M
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Cheers, I'll need to get it looked at by a garage.
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I heard a Reno Clio 2.0 sport 53 reg do this and it was the cam roller that snapped and rattling about to break off as it snapped the cam cover.
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Cambelt and water pump was done 18mths ago.
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Check them! Let's hope it's not that.
Also fan belt tensioner sounds like that when worn!.
Have you been to the garage yet?.
Did you say you were local?
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I hope not too....
I'm waiting to hear if there's a garage (Kent) that's used to working on these engines so I can get a qualified opinion.
I might take it to a general garage tomorrow to see if they can identify the sound but I'm a bit uneasy using the car at the moment, just in case.....
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Ah that's annoying.. have you tried kwik fit halfrauds just to get the noise identified?. My local kwik fit was really helpful a few weeks back finding a damaged anti roll bar bracket but sadly couldn't do any work on it and I really had to replace the bracket to fix the problem in the end!.
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UPDATE
Mate did a VCDS scan yesterday just for some piece of mind no codes came up. :happy2:
Took wheel and cover off, that is the extent of my knowledge done now :smiley:
Any more clues from the clips? Seems to be from that bottom pulley area.
https://vimeo.com/235133068 (https://vimeo.com/235133068)
https://vimeo.com/235133088 (https://vimeo.com/235133088)
Thanks
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I would be taking the aux belt off mate and try running it
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Either the AC pump or tensioner roller :popcornsoda:
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I would be taking the aux belt off mate and try running it
http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarticles/Volkswagen_Golf_GTI_Mk_V/11-ENGINE-Replacing_Your_Ribbed_Drive_Belt/11-ENGINE-Replacing_Your_Ribbed_Drive_Belt.htm
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Cheers guys, I'll see if a mate can do that for me. If the noise does disappear what next? New belt, tensioner..both?
Best to stick to OEM parts for these?
Cheers
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@Lewo (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=14490) hi mate,
Turn the ac on and see what happens with the noise!. Don't want you to buy a belt or tensioner and it's the ac pump!!! :happy2:
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Still trying to arrange a day for my mate to have a look at this for me. Forgot to try the AC I'll take a look tomorrow, the noise in the vid is with the AC off though if that makes a difference?
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Update.
Mate had a look at the car today. A/C pump didn't make any difference. Took the timing belt off and still no difference.
Whilst under the car noticed the oil leak from the sump which wasn't there last week, coincidence?
Anyhow it was hard to tell but mate thinks it might be cambelt tensioner possibly as the bottom pulley seems to be running smooth and can't feel any movement. There seems to be a bit of oil below the bottom pulley too.
pics and vids below.
https://i.imgur.com/J8cUPlm.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/J8cUPlm.jpg)
https://i.imgur.com/8PaSbFu.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/8PaSbFu.jpg)
https://vimeo.com/236468203 (https://vimeo.com/236468203)
https://vimeo.com/236468149 (https://vimeo.com/236468149)
Just for reference cambelt and waterpump were done 18 mths ago as was sump and pickup pipe.
Any other thoughts? Wondering if I should take it into main dealers for a quick look over?
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That belt which drives the auxiliaries is know as the serpentine belt not Timming belt.
My Next move would be all the necessary work to remove the tbelt covers, as I feel your mate is going to be correct with his diagnosis and it the either the tensioner or roller - what quality of replacement parts were fitted when it was done 18 months ago, as the parts from VW carry 24 month warranty.
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Yeah sorry I meant the drive belt... :ashamed:
Mate can't really help anymore with this problem I don't think so I guess
I will have to resort to taking it to the main dealers for an assessment as the garage that did the work is a 2.5 hr drive away.
If it is the cam belt tensioner is it a risk to drive it that far? I don't really like using the car the moment anyway, just in case something gives. Overly worrying?
Pretty sure VW parts were used for the belt and pump so assume tensioner etc comes with the kit?
I have heard about the 2 yr warranty on parts so if there is a problem with them hopefully that will be covered.
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Still trying to arrange a day for my mate to have a look at this for me. Forgot to try the AC I'll take a look tomorrow, the noise in the vid is with the AC off though if that makes a difference?
if the ac pump is at fault it will do it even when the ac is not switched on as I found on the zafira one I replaced a few months back and that was totally buggered with bits falling out when I removed it!!!
It's not a mega loud noise so you'll be fine driving it to your destination. Yes warranty on vw cam kit parts are two years so you'll not have an issue with them replacing it FOC
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Car booked in at the main dealer for a check in a couple of weeks so will take it from there.
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:sad1:
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It seemed the only thing I could do as mate can't help at the mo and if they confirm it's the cambelt them I can approach the original garage that fitted it. If its ends up being something else then I'll take it from there.
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It a shame no ones close enough to you to have a look as stealers are arse wipes who want your money and would lie to you just so you pay out but routing for you :smiley:
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D Day tomorrow at the dealers, wish me luck :rolleye:
Something else I've remembered with the car, DSG remember.... when you put your foot down the box normally drops down a couple of gears quickly and powers on.
Well just before and since this noise appeared doing the same thing the engine revs higher and seems to take a while to settle on a gear if that makes sense.....? Kind of hard to explain but I'll try and get mate to take some footage in car tomorrow, just wondered it this is related to what's going on.
Cheers
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So update....
At main dealers after a gentle 20 min drive, definitely a bit noisier than when I started car last week or so. They took the cover off and
(https://i.imgur.com/zY0wrHs.jpg)
And here's a couple of the oil leak we found when mate took drive belt off.
(https://i.imgur.com/6uvcnIN.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/qDIlkHB.jpg)
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So update....
At main dealers after a gentle 20 min drive, definitely a bit noisier than when I started car last week or so. They took the cover off and
(https://i.imgur.com/zY0wrHs.jpg)
And here's a couple of the oil leak we found when mate took drive belt off.
(https://i.imgur.com/6uvcnIN.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/qDIlkHB.jpg)
ouch!!!! What caused that to happen ??? :surprised:
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Not got a scooby, it's gone back to the garage that fitted the cambelt so I should hear at some point.
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Good luck buddy, as something's ground the belt down due to error of fitment imho!. This happens to a fella tt owner with a brand new belt kit and in the end his scrapped his motor and bought an S3. Not saying you need to scrap your motor as he's one went with a bang :surprised:
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Good luck buddy, as something's ground the belt down due to error of fitment imho!. This happens to a fella tt owner with a brand new belt kit and in the end his scrapped his motor and bought an S3. Not saying you need to scrap your motor as he's one went with a bang :surprised:
So, you were right! There was an error with the cam belt fitting, a bolt had fallen out and done the damage......
The garage have been very apologetic and refitted the whole kit and dropped the sump and cleaned it out too.
Running fine now, pulls as it should.
Was a relief that it was caught before it went pop! :partywave:
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Good luck buddy, as something's ground the belt down due to error of fitment imho!. This happens to a fella tt owner with a brand new belt kit and in the end his scrapped his motor and bought an S3. Not saying you need to scrap your motor as he's one went with a bang :surprised:
So, you were right! There was an error with the cam belt fitting, a bolt had fallen out and done the damage......
The garage have been very apologetic and refitted the whole kit and dropped the sump and cleaned it out too.
Running fine now, pulls as it should.
Was a relief that it was caught before it went pop! :partywave:
:partywave: super duper mate :grin: glad you've sorted out that stress after ages and luckily there was no major or further damage :smiley: