MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: Manny_ED30 on September 20, 2017, 10:54:45 am
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Hi All,
Still in the very slow process of going stage 2+, well in fact still in the idea of doing it and I think it's time to begin collecting parts.
HPFP is first on the list and I'm leaning with VIS Motorsport HPFP (Internals). Anybody on here running one? Doesn't have to be stage 2+..
Opinions on reliability and any personal experiences please :party:
Thanks in advance!
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@colesey (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1819) has VIS internals, and I believe @r5gtt (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=11199)
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Yeah I bought the VIS internals and rebuilt my pump with them. Aslong as you follow and understand the instructions its straightforward enough. Make sure you're doing it in a clean area! You really dont want to contaminate the internals. They hold 130bar (all im asking for) absolutely fine and haven't had any problems yet. Good alternative to the more expensive pumps
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Yeah I bought the VIS internals and rebuilt my pump with them. Aslong as you follow and understand the instructions its straightforward enough. Make sure you're doing it in a clean area! You really dont want to contaminate the internals. They hold 130bar (all im asking for) absolutely fine and haven't had any problems yet. Good alternative to the more expensive pumps
Thanks for your reply Jones. Yeah I think I'll pile up the parts and take it down to my trusted VW specialist
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Buy the smallest stage they do. Seen a few instances where people have gone for the larger stage 2 or 3 pumps, whichever one it is, and have encountered issues with fuel pressure control, simply as the volume of fuel supplied is not matched to the amount the engine can consume and it overcomes what the regulator is able to manage.
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Buy the smallest stage they do. Seen a few instances where people have gone for the larger stage 2 or 3 pumps, whichever one it is, and have encountered issues with fuel pressure control, simply as the volume of fuel supplied is not matched to the amount the engine can consume and it overcomes what the regulator is able to manage.
Thanks Dan.
Yeah saw they had multiple stages, but they mentioned that stage 1 is good for running 400+bhp. Stage2+ figures commonly range between 350-380 on a ed30 (Car dependent and other factors) so it should cope well. How come VIS hpfp aren't that common in the VAG scene? Mainly hear about Autotech or LOBA...
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The usual reason of a newcomer having to tap into an already busy market. It was the same with BC Racing sticking their toe into a market dominated by KW, Bilstein, H&R, et al. Being the cheapest is usually the best way to get yourself noticed in the scene.
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This particular internal superceeds it's expectation imho and for a pump internal that's never been heard of although everyone using it say it's a very good product :happy2:
Also as peskyjones says make sure you follow the instructions as I didn't get any with my internal and paid £330 for it delivered to the uk which I thought was cack and should have waited for the discount he had on them last year as I didn't even need it till mid this year when getting mapped :doh:
Ask Ovid for the stage 1 pump internals and get a picture up if you can so we can be sure it's st1 and not 2-3!!!
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I actually have two VIS pumps and there is a bit of a shaggy dog story behind this.....
I originally bought an ‘internals’ kit which I had fitted to my car in July. Whilst fitting, my mechanic noticed that the original pump had a crack forming on the spring retainer collar and that the internal seal was knackered. We therefore ordered a new pump from the local VW dealer and ran the car for a week whilst waiting for it to arrive. During this time, the car (revo st1 k03) ran really strongly in the midrange using the original map settings. After the internals were refitted to the new factory pump, the midrange evaporated despite the car otherwise running quietly with no fault codes upon scanning.
As nothing else had been changed, it was obvious that the fuel pump install was to blame and I reported this back to VIS. They have always been super responsive and, whilst they suspected a faulty installation, they offered to inspect and repair the pump for free. Rather than have my car out of action for a couple of weeks, I simply bought a complete new pump from them (which has solved the problem) and will sell on the other pump once they have have given it the ‘OK’ after thoroughly testing. This should hopefully be early next week and if anyone wants to buy it then VIS could ship directly to them.
Based on my experiences, I would advise that people check their pumps very closely as these faults happened to a very low mileage car (24k) which has always used top quality oil and whose pump had never previously been removed. There is also a question mark over how foolproof installation might be as my mechanic is pretty skilled, albeit not a TFSI expert.
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I actually have two VIS pumps and there is a bit of a shaggy dog story behind this.....
I originally bought an ‘internals’ kit which I had fitted to my car in July. Whilst fitting, my mechanic noticed that the original pump had a crack forming on the spring retainer collar and that the internal seal was knackered. We therefore ordered a new pump from the local VW dealer and ran the car for a week whilst waiting for it to arrive. During this time, the car (revo st1 k03) ran really strongly in the midrange using the original map settings. After the internals were refitted to the new factory pump, the midrange evaporated despite the car otherwise running quietly with no fault codes upon scanning.
As nothing else had been changed, it was obvious that the fuel pump install was to blame and I reported this back to VIS. They have always been super responsive and, whilst they suspected a faulty installation, they offered to inspect and repair the pump for free. Rather than have my car out of action for a couple of weeks, I simply bought a complete new pump from them (which has solved the problem) and will sell on the other pump once they have have given it the ‘OK’ after thoroughly testing. This should hopefully be early next week and if anyone wants to buy it then VIS could ship directly to them.
Based on my experiences, I would advise that people check their pumps very closely as these faults happened to a very low mileage car (24k) which has always used top quality oil and whose pump had never previously been removed. There is also a question mark over how foolproof installation might be as my mechanic is pretty skilled, albeit not a TFSI expert.
Thanks for the heads up on this. The plan is to have all the parts, fmic, hpfp etc fitted by a mechanic I know who specialists in most VAG since the mk1 golf and recently the TFSI engines. Therefore it'll be fully serviced before hand and ran in for a few hundred miles before the parts are fitted. Any deficiencies however I'm sure he'll point them out.
But I guess some problems you just won't know until something goes wrong :(
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I actually have two VIS pumps and there is a bit of a shaggy dog story behind this.....
I originally bought an ‘internals’ kit which I had fitted to my car in July. Whilst fitting, my mechanic noticed that the original pump had a crack forming on the spring retainer collar and that the internal seal was knackered. We therefore ordered a new pump from the local VW dealer and ran the car for a week whilst waiting for it to arrive. During this time, the car (revo st1 k03) ran really strongly in the midrange using the original map settings. After the internals were refitted to the new factory pump, the midrange evaporated despite the car otherwise running quietly with no fault codes upon scanning.
As nothing else had been changed, it was obvious that the fuel pump install was to blame and I reported this back to VIS. They have always been super responsive and, whilst they suspected a faulty installation, they offered to inspect and repair the pump for free. Rather than have my car out of action for a couple of weeks, I simply bought a complete new pump from them (which has solved the problem) and will sell on the other pump once they have have given it the ‘OK’ after thoroughly testing. This should hopefully be early next week and if anyone wants to buy it then VIS could ship directly to them.
Based on my experiences, I would advise that people check their pumps very closely as these faults happened to a very low mileage car (24k) which has always used top quality oil and whose pump had never previously been removed. There is also a question mark over how foolproof installation might be as my mechanic is pretty skilled, albeit not a TFSI expert.
How much was the complete VIS pump out of interest? My midrange has also evaporated, no fault codes and otherwise drives faultlessly. Top end is fine.
I have a 2.5 year old Loba, which might be worn out as my current symptoms mirror yours before it was fixed. If this is the case, then it appears Loba pumps are only good for 35-40k miles, which for £600+ is frankly pathetic.
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I actually have two VIS pumps and there is a bit of a shaggy dog story behind this.....
I originally bought an ‘internals’ kit which I had fitted to my car in July. Whilst fitting, my mechanic noticed that the original pump had a crack forming on the spring retainer collar and that the internal seal was knackered. We therefore ordered a new pump from the local VW dealer and ran the car for a week whilst waiting for it to arrive. During this time, the car (revo st1 k03) ran really strongly in the midrange using the original map settings. After the internals were refitted to the new factory pump, the midrange evaporated despite the car otherwise running quietly with no fault codes upon scanning.
As nothing else had been changed, it was obvious that the fuel pump install was to blame and I reported this back to VIS. They have always been super responsive and, whilst they suspected a faulty installation, they offered to inspect and repair the pump for free. Rather than have my car out of action for a couple of weeks, I simply bought a complete new pump from them (which has solved the problem) and will sell on the other pump once they have have given it the ‘OK’ after thoroughly testing. This should hopefully be early next week and if anyone wants to buy it then VIS could ship directly to them.
Based on my experiences, I would advise that people check their pumps very closely as these faults happened to a very low mileage car (24k) which has always used top quality oil and whose pump had never previously been removed. There is also a question mark over how foolproof installation might be as my mechanic is pretty skilled, albeit not a TFSI expert.
How much was the complete VIS pump out of interest? My midrange has also evaporated, no fault codes and otherwise drives faultlessly. Top end is fine.
I have a 2.5 year old Loba, which might be worn out as my current symptoms mirror yours before it was fixed. If this is the case, then it appears Loba pumps are only good for 35-40k miles, which for £600+ is frankly pathetic.
Ebay is showing these to be £499 brand new and thats whilst on sale. You're still approx £120 of better than a LOBA from awesome.
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I actually have two VIS pumps and there is a bit of a shaggy dog story behind this.....
I originally bought an ‘internals’ kit which I had fitted to my car in July. Whilst fitting, my mechanic noticed that the original pump had a crack forming on the spring retainer collar and that the internal seal was knackered. We therefore ordered a new pump from the local VW dealer and ran the car for a week whilst waiting for it to arrive. During this time, the car (revo st1 k03) ran really strongly in the midrange using the original map settings. After the internals were refitted to the new factory pump, the midrange evaporated despite the car otherwise running quietly with no fault codes upon scanning.
As nothing else had been changed, it was obvious that the fuel pump install was to blame and I reported this back to VIS. They have always been super responsive and, whilst they suspected a faulty installation, they offered to inspect and repair the pump for free. Rather than have my car out of action for a couple of weeks, I simply bought a complete new pump from them (which has solved the problem) and will sell on the other pump once they have have given it the ‘OK’ after thoroughly testing. This should hopefully be early next week and if anyone wants to buy it then VIS could ship directly to them.
Based on my experiences, I would advise that people check their pumps very closely as these faults happened to a very low mileage car (24k) which has always used top quality oil and whose pump had never previously been removed. There is also a question mark over how foolproof installation might be as my mechanic is pretty skilled, albeit not a TFSI expert.
How much was the complete VIS pump out of interest? My midrange has also evaporated, no fault codes and otherwise drives faultlessly. Top end is fine.
I have a 2.5 year old Loba, which might be worn out as my current symptoms mirror yours before it was fixed. If this is the case, then it appears Loba pumps are only good for 35-40k miles, which for £600+ is frankly pathetic.
As per the other thread - if you do get your fuel pressure logged to check how the Loba is doing, please give me a shout and let me know what you find.
Theoretically, your map won't be requesting as much pressure as a 2/2+ car, so if any deficiencies are found it might suggest an even worse scenario for cars running the 130 bar (?) a typical 2/2+ map demands.
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Will do mate.
I suspect the pressure will be OK, but the volume may be down, which is what you would feel in the midrange. Low and top ends need less fuel, so they tend to feel OK.
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For anyone looking to purchase this .
I picked up vis motorsport internals off ebay for 200 pounds.
Brand new.
From vis motorsport's ebay store.
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Can't believe how cheap they've gone :sad1:
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Can't believe how cheap they've gone :sad1:
Funny thing is my HPFP snapped when the cam follower was being done and I opted to go for a stock replacement. Prices for anything uprated were steep. Yesterday I had to snap up the sale VIS had going on. Currently going for £230 on ebay, internals only.
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Can't believe how cheap they've gone :sad1:
Funny thing is my HPFP snapped when the cam follower was being done and I opted to go for a stock replacement. Prices for anything uprated were steep. Yesterday I had to snap up the sale VIS had going on. Currently going for £230 on ebay, internals only.
ah shame that mate, always happens when you least expect it too! Yeah I was on of the first to get one of those as he have them on eBay for £330 and wouldn't go any lower :slap: now they're £100 cheaper and he'll let them go for £200 :sick:
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Would the vis internals be any good for stage 3 k04 conversion?
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@just_coolnuh (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=16707) definitely
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@just_coolnuh (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=16707) definitely
Thanks for replying, will buy that right now as its on sale again, will be cheeky n offer 200
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Apparently he's accepting £200 :doh: good luck. Who's fitting it for you?. I think you get instructions and a special tool with yours. Can you do me a huge favour? Ask Ovidiou to send you an extra spacer fitting tool for Mux as he never did send me one :sad1: and said it's too expensive to send alone and I'd be happy to pay you for the delivery. Thanks
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Apparently he's accepting £200 :doh: good luck. Who's fitting it for you?. I think you get instructions and a special tool with yours. Can you do me a huge favour? Ask Ovidiou to send you an extra spacer fitting tool for Mux as he never did send me one :sad1: and said it's too expensive to send alone and I'd be happy to pay you for the delivery. Thanks
I was contemplating doing it myself as it doesn’t look very difficult but talking to my friend he recommends buying a full pump instead as 1 little thing can cause loads of problems, not sure if i trust anyone around here to do it either, who done yours?
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Apparently he's accepting £200 :doh: good luck. Who's fitting it for you?. I think you get instructions and a special tool with yours. Can you do me a huge favour? Ask Ovidiou to send you an extra spacer fitting tool for Mux as he never did send me one :sad1: and said it's too expensive to send alone and I'd be happy to pay you for the delivery. Thanks
I was contemplating doing it myself as it doesn’t look very difficult but talking to my friend he recommends buying a full pump instead as 1 little thing can cause loads of problems, not sure if i trust anyone around here to do it either, who done yours?
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i did my own and had no issues with fitting it either.
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Apparently he's accepting £200 :doh: good luck. Who's fitting it for you?. I think you get instructions and a special tool with yours. Can you do me a huge favour? Ask Ovidiou to send you an extra spacer fitting tool for Mux as he never did send me one :sad1: and said it's too expensive to send alone and I'd be happy to pay you for the delivery. Thanks
I was contemplating doing it myself as it doesn’t look very difficult but talking to my friend he recommends buying a full pump instead as 1 little thing can cause loads of problems, not sure if i trust anyone around here to do it either, who done yours?
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i did my own and had no issues with fitting it either.
I was always confident to do it myself but talking with my friend had me thinking twice, it will save me alot of money going the vis route but i dont wanna buy twice from buying cheap so ill make my mind up tonight as i reckon the sale ends tomorrow, also when u say to ask ovidiou, is that the person selling it on ebay yeah?
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I picked up the complete VIS 2.0 stage 1 pump for under 450 in their sale recently. Very fast service, sorted it through facebook, give them a message, they respond fast and were very helpful
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Apparently he's accepting £200 :doh: good luck. Who's fitting it for you?. I think you get instructions and a special tool with yours. Can you do me a huge favour? Ask Ovidiou to send you an extra spacer fitting tool for Mux as he never did send me one :sad1: and said it's too expensive to send alone and I'd be happy to pay you for the delivery. Thanks
I was contemplating doing it myself as it doesn’t look very difficult but talking to my friend he recommends buying a full pump instead as 1 little thing can cause loads of problems, not sure if i trust anyone around here to do it either, who done yours?
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i did my own and had no issues with fitting it either.
I was always confident to do it myself but talking with my friend had me thinking twice, it will save me alot of money going the vis route but i dont wanna buy twice from buying cheap so ill make my mind up tonight as i reckon the sale ends tomorrow, also when u say to ask ovidiou, is that the person selling it on ebay yeah?
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yea that's the owner of the product selling on eBay.
Someone apparently damaged their one by fitting it in incorrectly but there's nothing to it. If you're unsure just buy a complete unit which will be 100% accurate :happy2:
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The second new VIS pump I mentioned last week in this thread is now on its way back to me and will be listed for sale in a couple of days time. If anyone interested in buying it, then please PM me.
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Think ill have another watch of the video how to do it to see what im gonna do, as i could be potentially saving over £200!
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If you are DIYing feel free to drop me a pm, add me on whatsapp and ill help if you get stuck or have questions etc.
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Think ill have another watch of the video how to do it to see what im gonna do, as i could be potentially saving over £200!
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Vis will give you the correct information and how too so not rocket science :grin:
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If you are DIYing feel free to drop me a pm, add me on whatsapp and ill help if you get stuck or have questions etc.
Cheers mate, dont think i will be as im now buying a complete unit but thanks for the offer though!
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