MK5 Golf GTI

General => New Member Intro's => Topic started by: Nickyboy on February 06, 2010, 07:28:51 pm

Title: Civic type R owner, looking to change
Post by: Nickyboy on February 06, 2010, 07:28:51 pm
Hi there. I've had a CTR (the 01-06 shape EP3) for almost 3 years now and fancy a change. Naturally I thought of the new shape CTR (FN2) and the Japanese version (FD2) but I think I've had it with VTEC, fancy something with good grunt lower down the revs. My mate who just bought an Audi TT with the same 2.0T FSI engine says I will love it.

More comfort would be nice too. CTRs are fast but part of that is the loss of comfort, noise supression, toys etc.

I'll be testing one out on Tuesday, it's not the spec i'm after but should give me a good idea of what they're like to drive.

I'll probably test out the FN2 aswell, as the Honda garage is close to the VW garage, and I've been a Honda man for years. Secretly I hope I prefer the Golf. I'm sure you will convince me beforehand  :grin:

Cheers.
Title: Re: Civic type R owner, looking to change
Post by: VC on February 06, 2010, 07:31:38 pm
seen the light eh  :wink:

welcomes  :drinking:
Title: Re: Civic type R owner, looking to change
Post by: Phil Mcavity on February 06, 2010, 07:31:45 pm
Welcome, you'll love the Golf mate. Drive the Ed30 if you can, theyre abit faster then your old CTR.

Remap it and you have a Animal!!  :drinking:
Title: Re: Civic type R owner, looking to change
Post by: Nickyboy on February 06, 2010, 07:35:54 pm
Famous last words "I don't want to modify it"

My EP3 was modded, I won't bore with you with the details but spent around £6k in the last 2 years. Was last mapped at 233bhp with a slipping clutch. VTEC lowered to 4.5k, really shifts.

I must be getting old @32, I quite fancy cruise control.
Title: Re: Civic type R owner, looking to change
Post by: VC on February 06, 2010, 07:43:16 pm
want to lavish us with some pictures?  :popcornsoda:
Title: Re: Civic type R owner, looking to change
Post by: Nickyboy on February 06, 2010, 07:47:47 pm
No mate, I'm no troll. Genuinely interested in the GTI thus far.

Does the ED30 come in all colours of the normal GTI? I only like the Silver, Candy White and Grey colours.

Currently browsing the audio section for my iPod questions. Must have iPod in the car.
Title: Re: Civic type R owner, looking to change
Post by: Phil Mcavity on February 06, 2010, 07:47:54 pm
Famous last words "I don't want to modify it"

My EP3 was modded, I won't bore with you with the details but spent around £6k in the last 2 years. Was last mapped at 233bhp with a slipping clutch. VTEC lowered to 4.5k, really shifts.

I must be getting old @32, I quite fancy cruise control.
Stock Ed30 or Pirelli if you want Stock power at around 227bhp.

and you best be very strict on what you read here.

I was the same, and look whats happened to mine :signLOL:

Enjoy the Hunt. Tis always the best bit

Oh and DSG is worth a go, doesnt suffer with clutch slip as much as the manual  :wink:
Title: Re: Civic type R owner, looking to change
Post by: Nickyboy on February 06, 2010, 07:54:06 pm
My budget is around 15k, with less than 20,000 miles. I am based in NE Scotland and the cars that meet my criteria so far are at least 120 miles away. A grey and a white one, both with less than 10,000 miles, 2007 models.

I take it the suspension on the ED30 & Pirelli models is stiffer than the standard GTI?

200bhp would be enough if it means sacrificing mileage for performance. Just want something comfy, fast, few toys, reliable, and good looking.

Again, probably famous last words  :party:

Oh yes DSG sounds good, but rare and maybe not in budget.
Title: Re: Civic type R owner, looking to change
Post by: VC on February 06, 2010, 07:55:52 pm
FYI  :wink:

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Title: Re: Civic type R owner, looking to change
Post by: Phil Mcavity on February 06, 2010, 07:57:00 pm
Same suspention in both cars fella.

Ed30/pirelli is full colour coded, The standard GTi has Black Plastic rear bumper and Black plastic side skirts.

£15k will get you in a good spec motor :happy2:
Title: Re: Civic type R owner, looking to change
Post by: Phil Mcavity on February 06, 2010, 07:59:23 pm
Suggest you go test drive a dsg car at a vw dealer and see if you like

it . Great fun and worth paying for. But coming from a stick shifter CTR

you may wanna stick with a manual.

Title: Re: Civic type R owner, looking to change
Post by: Nickyboy on February 06, 2010, 08:03:28 pm
Does the DSG mean paddles or tiptronic stick shift? Or are both options? I think I'd struggle with a paddle shift, wouldn't know what gear I was in  :confused:
Title: Re: Civic type R owner, looking to change
Post by: Phil Mcavity on February 06, 2010, 08:11:42 pm
DSG  imo is awesome. You can drive it like your sat in an F1 racing car.

Gear changes are done in Milliseconds with no lag in power, just the great sound of the exhaust burping out the rear, and no faid in lost torque that you would get using a clutch.

Its a very diverse box, tells you on the dash computer what gear your in and is totally safe so you cant get a gear change wrong.

Go test it, its not your conventional Auto, but can be driven in so many ways depending on your driving style.

It does all the changes for you, even for when you pull to a stop , you dont have to downshift etc, or put it in manual to have fun shifting yourselve.

Honestly go test drive one, try both models to see what floats your boat.Its the only way to make your own decision.
Ive had 4 DSG  cars and wont go back to a manual. Im 35 and quite a fast driver on occasion and absolutley love it.


You can use the gearstick to shift or use paddles mounted on the steering wheel so your hands stay on the wheel.
Title: Re: Civic type R owner, looking to change
Post by: MAT ED30 on February 06, 2010, 08:22:26 pm
ex type r owner here  :laugh: had 2 of em and worked for Honda  :laugh: if you like the type r then u will love the gti once played with a little and i would defo try test drive dsg and manual as i hated dsg  :laugh: i dont care how fast it changes its still an auto  :P
Title: Re: Civic type R owner, looking to change
Post by: Phil Mcavity on February 06, 2010, 08:33:15 pm
Watch this video of Jason Potato with this dsg car

Title: Re: Civic type R owner, looking to change
Post by: Nickyboy on February 06, 2010, 08:36:07 pm
Seen it mate, cheers. Sounds like a good option. Expensive to replace the clutch(es) though I bet?
Title: Re: Civic type R owner, looking to change
Post by: Hurdy on February 06, 2010, 10:59:58 pm
Seen it mate, cheers. Sounds like a good option. Expensive to replace the clutch(es) though I bet?

Same can be said of the manual.

DSG clutchpack only takes 3 hrs to replace, but only at Indy's, VW wil want your pants down for a new box.

Mine is DSG nearly 3 yrs old and has had well over 300bhp for most of it. I went out yesterday in the new R again and it was a manual, too much like hard work for less return. DSG is faster than a manual in a straight line and through the twisties.

I'd better stop now otherwise this thread will turn into one of the many other threads that went the way of manual V's DSG :grin:

Welcome to the forum and one word of advice.....don't listen to anyone or it costs you money and makes your car faster/better, but your wallet emptier. :scared: :wink:
Title: Re: Civic type R owner, looking to change
Post by: Greeners on February 06, 2010, 11:20:11 pm
Welcome chap!  :drinking:

Yeh if the arthritis is setting in get an auto!  :grin: :booty:
Title: Re: Civic type R owner, looking to change
Post by: aidogti on February 06, 2010, 11:49:42 pm
welcome.. i came from a wrx and the gti wil make you smile
Title: Re: Civic type R owner, looking to change
Post by: monte on February 07, 2010, 08:27:38 pm
Same suspention in both cars fella.

Ed30/pirelli is full colour coded, The standard GTi has Black Plastic rear bumper and Black plastic side skirts.

£15k will get you in a good spec motor :happy2:

Are you sure about this phil? I read somewhere that the standard ED30/pirelli sits 15mm lower than the Standard GTi. Not sure where I read it though. :ashamed:
Title: Re: Civic type R owner, looking to change
Post by: winrya on February 07, 2010, 08:34:52 pm
Suspension is exactly the same. I think there was a magazine who said that incorrectly a few years back at the ed30 launch
Title: Re: Civic type R owner, looking to change
Post by: monte on February 07, 2010, 08:46:26 pm
oh, right, I stand corrected (said the man with the orthopedic shoes)  :grin:
Title: Re: Civic type R owner, looking to change
Post by: Phil Mcavity on February 07, 2010, 09:21:31 pm
You have lots to learn Monte  :wink:
Title: Re: Civic type R owner, looking to change
Post by: monte on February 07, 2010, 09:36:57 pm
oh  :confused:
Title: Re: Civic type R owner, looking to change
Post by: T88OMM on February 07, 2010, 09:46:23 pm
Welcome along matey  :pomppomp: :happy2:
Title: Re: Civic type R owner, looking to change
Post by: Mackie1 on February 08, 2010, 11:59:45 am
Same suspention in both cars fella.

Ed30/pirelli is full colour coded, The standard GTi has Black Plastic rear bumper and Black plastic side skirts.

£15k will get you in a good spec motor :happy2:

Are you sure about this phil? I read somewhere that the standard ED30/pirelli sits 15mm lower than the Standard GTi. Not sure where I read it though. :ashamed:

I think i remember reading this too and i'm nearly sure it was in an issue of VW Driver in early 2007, so i'm in the same boat as you Monte... :wink:
Title: Re: Civic type R owner, looking to change
Post by: steve D on February 08, 2010, 12:06:05 pm
I'm sure you wont be dissapointed with a golf imo its a much better alround car than the civic plus you get plenty of torque unlike with v-tec engines!

I've owned a DC2 and DC5 both are cracking cars but i find the golf much better to use daily. :happy2:

If you want another honda go for a DC5 i wouldnt bother with the FN2 unless its the championship edition.
Title: Re: Civic type R owner, looking to change
Post by: Phil Mcavity on February 08, 2010, 12:28:49 pm
Same suspention in both cars fella.

Ed30/pirelli is full colour coded, The standard GTi has Black Plastic rear bumper and Black plastic side skirts.

£15k will get you in a good spec motor :happy2:

Are you sure about this phil? I read somewhere that the standard ED30/pirelli sits 15mm lower than the Standard GTi. Not sure where I read it though. :ashamed:

I think i remember reading this too and i'm nearly sure it was in an issue of VW Driver in early 2007, so i'm in the same boat as you Monte... :wink:

It is true, i also have read the same statement by the journo's in one of the mags, but theyve mislead you. Just park a GTi and Ed30 nxt to each other. They are both the same ride height. :happy2:
Title: Re: Civic type R owner, looking to change
Post by: Mackie1 on February 08, 2010, 02:18:41 pm
Same suspention in both cars fella.

Ed30/pirelli is full colour coded, The standard GTi has Black Plastic rear bumper and Black plastic side skirts.

£15k will get you in a good spec motor :happy2:

Are you sure about this phil? I read somewhere that the standard ED30/pirelli sits 15mm lower than the Standard GTi. Not sure where I read it though. :ashamed:

I think i remember reading this too and i'm nearly sure it was in an issue of VW Driver in early 2007, so i'm in the same boat as you Monte... :wink:

It is true, i also have read the same statement by the journo's in one of the mags, but theyve mislead you. Just park a GTi and Ed30 nxt to each other. They are both the same ride height. :happy2:

I stand corrected too then Phil... :ashamed:
Oh well, you learn somethin' new every day... :drinking:
Title: Re: Civic type R owner, looking to change
Post by: Eddy30 on February 10, 2010, 08:22:42 pm
hi mate,
Test drive an edition30 mate you'll love it,budget for about £500 and get it remapped you won't belive it. Although you will become strangely obsessed with your gti
Title: Re: Civic type R owner, looking to change
Post by: Phil Mcavity on February 10, 2010, 10:35:33 pm
hi mate,
Test drive an edition30 mate you'll love it,budget for about £500 and get it remapped you won't belive it. Although you will become strangely obsessed with your gti
and theres no cure....... Youve been warned
Title: Re: Civic type R owner, looking to change
Post by: MAT ED30 on February 10, 2010, 10:50:40 pm
no cure at all  :laugh: check the forum cars out  :grin: they were all stock for 2 seconds  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Civic type R owner, looking to change
Post by: john_o on February 12, 2010, 08:05:39 am
some info
 Edition 30 FAQ (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=5050.0)

if you can afford it, then the ED30 is the one to get as it has a bigger turbo so the remap potential is just that little bit higher...
however a remapped GTI is no slouch either so either way youll have a great car  :happy2:

agree with others try DSG / manual both have advantages  :happy2:

welcome
Title: Re: Civic type R owner, looking to change
Post by: Nickyboy on February 14, 2010, 12:16:34 am
Thanks alot for all the welcomes and advice.

I must admit i've never had a car stock for long, and each time i've said no mods, so may aswell admit it now  :party:

I will be looking for a car with manufacturers warranty, will the ECU mods show up in case of a problem? As in can the ECU be reflashed back to it's factory settings using a laptop?