MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: Ant b on October 22, 2017, 03:10:28 pm
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Hello just wondering has any one on here got the cam chain timing tools(preferably genuine) that I could borrow for a fee.
Ive got everything to change my cam chain but the tools,and there not cheap.
Thanks Ant
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I have the camshaft alignment tool not genuine but made by laser. Problem is looks like you are in Northampton and I am in Derby so about 3hr round trip.
You will need this tool to take off the variable adjuster and it's probably a good idea to get a new bolt from VW or TPS. VW tool T40080
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Camshaft-Adjuster-Tool-Socket-Bit-M10-VW-Audi-2-0-TFSI-Equiv-OEM-T40080-6-Spline/162621227039?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
If your old chain is still attached you could just make alignment marks.
(I don't like the guy as he talks a lot of BS and his videos go on way too long but this video could help you)
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Contact the mod Dazza he has a set he helps peps with.
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Yeah... that video.... ignore it. :signLOL:
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Yeah... that video.... ignore it. :signLOL:
Most definitely :doh:
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Greetings! I'm new to the forum as you probably guessed by my post count.
Over the weekend I attempted to replace the chain and tensioner having read the very handy guide on this forum. All was going well until i came to remove the adjuster bolt. I couldn't make my mind up if to use a breaker bar or the airline (as suggested somewhere else on the forum). In the end opted for the airline to try and shock it off. Luckily I haven't rounded the bolt off, but i did shatter the laser tools T40080 'equivalent' tool.
Today I went into VW to try and order a proper T40080 tool and they wouldn't sell me one - only available to their own workshop they tell me! :fighting:
I've ordered another laser one to try with a breaker bar. :sad1:
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Yeah... that video.... ignore it. :signLOL:
I used the alignment tool(had to as the chain snapped) but why would making alignment marks not work? If I was doing it this way I would also mark a tooth on each sprocket and count the teeth between. I used this method when fitting a new cambelt. I made marks on the old belt and then copied the marks on to the new belt.
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I am not saying it can't work. I would just advise anyone doing this to ignore that video and do it the correct way with the proper tools.
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I currently have @dazza (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=10457) tool which I can send out if needs be.
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I currently have @dazza (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=10457) tool which I can send out if needs be.
Thats fine will need a deposit for the tool though.
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Greetings! I'm new to the forum as you probably guessed by my post count.
Over the weekend I attempted to replace the chain and tensioner having read the very handy guide on this forum. All was going well until i came to remove the adjuster bolt. I couldn't make my mind up if to use a breaker bar or the airline (as suggested somewhere else on the forum). In the end opted for the airline to try and shock it off. Luckily I haven't rounded the bolt off, but i did shatter the laser tools T40080 'equivalent' tool.
Today I went into VW to try and order a proper T40080 tool and they wouldn't sell me one - only available to their own workshop they tell me! :fighting:
I've ordered another laser one to try with a breaker bar. :sad1:
That is the official stance from VW, but if you get on well with the parts people, some of them will bend the rules for you.
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Even the OEM tool is not designed to be used with an impact wrench
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Cheers everyone but decided to buy all 3 tools from tps
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Cheers everyone but decided to buy all 3 tools from tps
TPS - didn't think they bothered to sell tools anymore?
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Cheers everyone but decided to buy all 3 tools from tps
Hmm did you manage to get them from TPS? There's one near me, wish I knew that was an option!
My second Laser Tools OEM T40080 'equivalent' has arrived today, so expect me to report back shortly to say I've rounded the bolt out. :signLOL:
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For anyone researching where to buy the tools I just managed to order T40080 from TPS after trying a second laser tools T40080 equivalent part on my lunch break and shearing it off. I used a breaker bar this time, with a second pair of hands holding the tool dead square and into the bolt head, it shattered as soon as I put any decent purchase on it.
DO NOT USE THE LASER TOOLS T40080 TOOL!!!!!
(https://image.ibb.co/k9CL1R/20161001_132117.jpg)
I'm going to write to Laser Tools in a moment to let them know that their tools suck balls, although they probably already know this.
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(https://image.ibb.co/myFWbR/20171026_104224.jpg)
TPS FTW.
If this one shears off I'm going to put the car back together and just pretend all went well.
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You should be good with the VW tool. Mine didn't snap with a 3 foot breaker bar on the end of it!
Every Laser tool I've ever had has either done the job barely adequately, or been completely useless. I only buy genuine tools now.
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For anyone researching where to buy the tools I just managed to order T40080 from TPS after trying a second laser tools T40080 equivalent part on my lunch break and shearing it off. I used a breaker bar this time, with a second pair of hands holding the tool dead square and into the bolt head, it shattered as soon as I put any decent purchase on it.
DO NOT USE THE LASER TOOLS T40080 TOOL!!!!!
(https://image.ibb.co/k9CL1R/20161001_132117.jpg)
I'm going to write to Laser Tools in a moment to let them know that their tools suck balls, although they probably already know this.
I snapped one doing the bolt up. I thought maybe I went a little too tight but clearly they are just a weak tool. I went by the spec to how tight to go and it snapped just as I got the correct angle.
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Yeah. Tool clearly not fit for purpose. I have written to Laser with the following complaint.....
"RE Tool 6991 10mm Polydrive/VW Camshaft Adjuster Bit
This tool is not fit for purpose. I have now bought two of these and shattered both of them. The tool is labelled as "equivalent" to the VW OEM tool T40080 but clearly it is not. It has one job, to undo a single bolt holding on the camshaft adjuster bit on VW FSI engines and it fails miserably every time.
I would ask you to consider producing this tool out of a material that is either a) not sh*t, or b) so sh*t that the tool may still be inserted directly into ones anus afterwards (the current design leaves a sharp edge preventing this without injury)."
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LMFAO hahahahha
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:grin:
You should use Twitter to complain. It's the only thing companies take any notice of!
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Good shout. I'll try Twitter.
Sooooooo. I can confirm the VW tool is good. This time the bolt head failed. It broke every single part of the shape clean out of the head and left me with a nice round hole in the bolt.
Out came the carbide drill bit and stud extractors...
(https://image.ibb.co/mLsLmR/20171026_195458.jpg)
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Oh, and does someone have the part number for the adjuster? I don't fancy doing the job a second time, so was considering changing it. Are they about a million pounds?
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Oh, and does someone have the part number for the adjuster? I don't fancy doing the job a second time, so was considering changing it. Are they about a million pounds?
Item 6 on this listing, match to your engine type - price best check what discount TPS will give you.
http://www.oemepc.com/vw/part_single/catalog/vw/markt/RDW/modell/GOLF/year/2007/drive_standart/474/hg_ug/109/subcategory/109015/part_id/3708479/lang/e#sec_6
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Thanks dude.
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I'm sure the VVT adjuster was around £250+VAT when I bought the chain gear in, but as my bolt came out in once piece, I returned it. Not many parts places will take special order parts back, so you might want to check that before buying it.
Did you manage to get it out with stud extractors then? You got off lightly if you did!
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I'm sure the VVT adjuster was around £250+VAT when I bought the chain gear in, but as my bolt came out in once piece, I returned it. Not many parts places will take special order parts back, so you might want to check that before buying it.
Did you manage to get it out with stud extractors then? You got off lightly if you did!
I've just got a price from TPS. £376.36. I think i'll take the risk at that price...
Yeah I did, just a cheap £12 set of extractors from Machine mart and a carbide drill bit I had lying around (the bolt is HARD, regular high speed steel bits won't touch it). I honestly didn't think they would work the bolt was so tight, I had visions of the extractor snapping off inside.
I used a carefully sized 1/2 drive socket in the bore of the adjuster to keep the extractor square whilst cracking it off with a breaker bar on the end of the extractor. :P
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Yeah tps always sell to me bought loads from there,car mats,service kit,all the cam chain stuff,thermostat etc.
It’s all been done now nice and quite and dosent drop temp