MK5 Golf GTI

All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: Stig_gti on October 29, 2017, 11:41:39 am

Title: Suspension
Post by: Stig_gti on October 29, 2017, 11:41:39 am
When sitting the shock back into the hub does it drop to a certain point before you tighten it up. Like will only drop so far, or do you put the shock flush to the bottom of the hub and then tighten it.
Title: Re: Suspension
Post by: ROH ECHT on October 29, 2017, 05:48:43 pm
The fronts are what you are questioning, yes? Then yes, you spread the lower strut mount on the knucle (for removal as well as for re-installment) and slide the strut all the way down after you've secured the upper strut mount at the top. There's a lower tab on the bottom of the strut tube with a hole(or hook-type tab) in it, you'll notice when you remove the struts, that goes into the knuckle slot and aligns to the lower strut bolt. I believe there is a stop that's cast into the knuckle at the lower end of its strut cylinder...you'll feel the strut stop as it hits that stop.
I assume you have a spreader tool such as this; http://www.urotuning.com/Strut-Spreader-Tool-VW-Audi-p/MN3424.htm?gclid=CjwKCAjw-NXPBRB4EiwAVNRLKgT5XP0fCQLLFyOvUP5tE1pUVKOUKrcNUOuqPDgUQE890j54U-Q68xoCdUgQAvD_BwE
...you can use a chisel as well.
 
Title: Re: Suspension
Post by: Octoparrot on October 29, 2017, 05:53:44 pm
There's a lip at the bottom of the hole that the strut should stop against before inserting the bolt and tightening it back up. The lip prevents you sliding the strut down too far, if you spread the hub apart far enough it should be quite easy to slide the strut in and down to its stop.
Title: Re: Suspension
Post by: Stig_gti on October 29, 2017, 05:56:19 pm
Perfect guys thanks that what I was thinking. One last thing if a spring was installed upside down would it affect the height. E.g higher lower 
Title: Re: Suspension
Post by: ROH ECHT on October 29, 2017, 06:02:05 pm
Don't believe you can install them upside down as the coil's diameters may differ from top to bottom. I think the upper spring perch is larger diameter, as it is the same diameter of the upper strut bearing...and the lower perch is more the diameter of the shock tube. I could be incorrect...and it doesn't matter one way or the other. Ride height would only be affected if the spring's coils sat differently on the lower perch when upside down.
Title: Re: Suspension
Post by: Stig_gti on October 29, 2017, 10:31:56 pm
Thank you @ROH ECHT (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=3794).
Are springs any different between mk6 gti and mk5 gti also do dcc springs differ.
Title: Re: Suspension
Post by: ROH ECHT on October 30, 2017, 04:17:43 pm
Without having first-hand experience...I think you should look at some Golf R Forums here. I've read the VWR springs are made to run with DCC and you'd want to stay away from progressive/variable rate springs. Springs for a mk6 GTI should fit the mk5...mk7 to mk5, no.
Title: Re: Suspension
Post by: r5gtt on October 31, 2017, 02:38:27 pm
How about the H&R suspension kit?
Title: Re: Suspension
Post by: Stig_gti on October 31, 2017, 04:36:48 pm
I was on h&r springs to low for me in London.
Changed to kw springs 20/20 raised the back hardly raised the front at all.
So now I’m thinking of going back to standard springs..
Title: Re: Suspension
Post by: r5gtt on October 31, 2017, 07:46:14 pm
I was on h&r springs to low for me in London.
Changed to kw springs 20/20 raised the back hardly raised the front at all.
So now I’m thinking of going back to standard springs..
ah footballs  :doh:

Title: Re: Suspension
Post by: Stig_gti on October 31, 2017, 07:56:06 pm
Pain in the arse 2 sets of springs including fitting and tracking. Now might be going back to standard.  :thinking:
Title: Re: Suspension
Post by: r5gtt on October 31, 2017, 09:21:03 pm
Pain in the arse 2 sets of springs including fitting and tracking. Now might be going back to standard.  :thinking:
I'm in the heart of London so going to expect the same issues as the humps here are super huge  :doh: having said that did you replace the shocks as my TT was 40mm dropped with a votex front over bumper spoiler and a LCR splitter and it did catch but was liveable  :smiley:
Title: Re: Suspension
Post by: Stig_gti on October 31, 2017, 09:47:43 pm
No didn’t replace my shocks still on originals. I have dcc suspension and want to keep it, new shocks from dealer £1000
Title: Re: Suspension
Post by: r5gtt on October 31, 2017, 10:00:10 pm
I have the H&R comfort suspension kit and thinking because my oem are most likely shot these will be fine and I won't scrape as much as they're not battered or old!!!

Title: Re: Suspension
Post by: r5gtt on October 31, 2017, 10:06:50 pm
(https://image.ibb.co/mi7p2b/IMG_5921.jpg)
Title: Re: Suspension
Post by: Stig_gti on October 31, 2017, 10:15:04 pm
Looks like a good bit of kit.
I have h&r anti roll bars as well loads of superpro bushes, alloys arms, abj, list goes on and on lol.
Exspensive hobby this.
Title: Re: Suspension
Post by: r5gtt on October 31, 2017, 10:17:17 pm
Yeah I have the same super pro ALK alloy bones too and yes bm eur expensive hobby but beats being on drugs or drinking  :signLOL:
Can't believe how pricey the springs alone cost @ £213.00  :surprised:
Title: Re: Suspension
Post by: Stig_gti on November 01, 2017, 08:24:31 am
Agree what springs cost that?.
Title: Re: Suspension
Post by: RetroRaz on November 01, 2017, 09:11:13 am
I had eibach sportlines on my last tdi golf and they never scraped on any speed bumps. They were just a little bit stiffer thats all. But maybe gti shocks are different to tdi ones which is why they were ok on speed bumps

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Title: Re: Suspension
Post by: r5gtt on November 01, 2017, 10:42:58 am
Agree what springs cost that?.
The H&R I have and that's without shock absorbers and mount etc
Title: Re: Suspension
Post by: r5gtt on November 01, 2017, 10:46:15 am
I had eibach sportlines on my last tdi golf and they never scraped on any speed bumps. They were just a little bit stiffer thats all. But maybe gti shocks are different to tdi ones which is why they were ok on speed bumps

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Yeah I think the gti will be a lot lower as my car already looks low from the signiture picture
Title: Re: Suspension
Post by: Stig_gti on November 02, 2017, 01:01:16 pm
Decisions decisions  :thinking:
Are have a good think about it don’t want to waste anymore money.
Title: Re: Suspension
Post by: r5gtt on November 02, 2017, 01:38:14 pm
I need news rear springs and shocks seem shot on the front end as getting way too much dip so will bang them on and hope for the best  :signLOL:
If I no likey then I'll sell them  :smiley:
Title: Re: Suspension
Post by: Stig_gti on November 02, 2017, 04:14:04 pm
Trail and error sometimes especially with suspension. What people find acceptable other’s don’t. Fingers crossed for you your love this setup that you install. :happy2:
Title: Re: Suspension
Post by: pudding on November 02, 2017, 04:38:24 pm
Yep, suspension is a pain. 

If you live in London, I would put the standard springs back on for now.  Imo, it's only worth messing with the suspension if you can regularly blast the car around some country roads for fun, otherwise lowering and stiffening can be a pain in the hoop in towns and cities.   
Title: Re: Suspension
Post by: Stig_gti on November 03, 2017, 12:29:34 am
Yh totally agree reason for suspension mods to help get the power down and for trackdays. And just general driving feel, maybe just move out of the city would be an easier option.
Title: Re: Suspension
Post by: r5gtt on November 03, 2017, 01:18:22 am
I drove around London with my tt 40mm drop with a Votex spoiler and LCR splitter for nearly two years so hoping it's the same with the golf  :signLOL:
You can see from both my cars together how low the tt is and golf being standard ride height  :driver:

(https://image.ibb.co/dUaASb/IMG_1860.jpg)
Title: Re: Suspension
Post by: pudding on November 03, 2017, 09:44:28 am
It's manageable if you're careful, but I find it quite embarrassing having to crawl over a speed hump.....and my Golf isn't even VIP'd!

With the standard suspension I could barrel over humps surprisingly fast.  Coilovers......no chance unless I want to head butt the roof :grin:
Title: Re: Suspension
Post by: r5gtt on November 03, 2017, 10:17:25 am
Yeah mate, I'm usually careful going over bumps as long as I see it because some just jump out at night and you think w*:surprised: where did that come from  :doh: as it's not a van or bus but I do get your point   :smiley: