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Title: Low Oil Pressure Warning / Engine rattling/Car not starting/Battery slowly dying
Post by: GTi-Tecnix on December 18, 2017, 09:36:53 pm
Car broke down today died on road. Two days ago was flagging oil pressure stop.
engine. I drove it two days like this and yesterday the engine was rattling sounding like a diesel. The car stopped rattling for 2mins and the engine cut out and would not tick over since. Key turns but not ticking over. Sounds like my engine is now fooked. The recovery did a basic scan which said: ‘Camshaft position timing over’

I think it’s the cam chain or tensioner where tensioner is now completely broke. Spoke to a mechanic who advised not to spend a penny fixing as valves are most likely damaged and further down inside the engine. Not worth repairing.

Will the symptoms persist with noise if the cam chain and tensioner  is changed or will I be better of getting a refurbished engine fitted now?

Title: Re: Car not starting
Post by: GTi-Tecnix on December 18, 2017, 10:12:57 pm
Car broke down today died on road. Two days ago was flagging oil pressure stop engine warning ⚠️ I drove it two days like this and yesterday the engine was rattling sounding like a diesel. The car stopped rattling for 2mins and the engine cut out and would not tick over since. Key turns but not ticking over. Sounds like my engine is now fooked. The recovery did a basic scan which said: ‘Camshaft position timing over’
P0011 OBD-II Trouble Code: Camshaft Position A - Timing Over-Advanced or System Performance (Bank 1)


What the P0011 code means

P0011 is the OBD-II generic code indicating the engine control module (ECM) has determined that the bank 1 intake camshaft is more advanced than what the ECM has commanded it be. This over-advanced condition could be during advancing or retarding of the camshaft timing.

What causes the P0011 code?

The camshaft and crankshaft sensors have indicated the camshaft is more advanced than the ECM has commanded it to advance.

The camshaft is too advanced when the ECM has commanded the camshaft to retard to a lower timing level.

The oil control solenoid to the bank 1 camshaft may be stuck or have clogged passages.

The oil is too thick causing the passages to become clogged due to lack of oil flow to and from the camshaft phasers.

The camshaft phasers are stuck in the advanced position.

What are the symptoms of the P0011 code?

The ECM will turn on the Check Engine Light and command the camshaft to go to its normal starting position if possible.

The engine may have a hard start condition if the cam is stuck in a too far advanced or retarded timing position.

The engine will have a reduction in fuel mileage due to the camshafts not being in their optimal positions to get the best fuel mileage.

The engine may run rough, hesitate, or stall depending on camshaft positions.

The engine emissions may exceed federal levels and fail an emissions test.

Note: The symptoms may change depending on the camshaft timing positions when the camshaft stopped advancing or retarding.


I think it’s the cam-chain or tensioner where tensioner is now completely broke. Spoke to a mechanic who advised not to spend a penny fixing as valves are most likely damaged and further down inside the engine. Not worth repairing.

Will the symptoms persist with noise if the cam chain and tensioner  is changed or will I be better of getting a refurbished engine fitted now?
Title: Re: Car not starting
Post by: Dan_FR on December 18, 2017, 10:51:12 pm
Its broke... FYI the clue was the great big warning telling you to stop running the engine as there was no oil pressure. Driving it for 2 days with no oil pressure?  :signLOL: What did you think would happen? The engine is finished - look for another!
Title: Re: Car not starting
Post by: GTi-Tecnix on December 18, 2017, 10:54:33 pm
Its broke... FYI the clue was the great big warning telling you to stop running the engine as there was no oil pressure. Driving it for 2 days with no oil pressure?  :signLOL: What did you think would happen? The engine is finished - look for another!
yup I get that now. I took a big gamble ! And I guess you take some risks. Looking now for a new refurbished AXX engine.
Title: Re: Car not starting
Post by: rich83 on December 18, 2017, 10:55:16 pm
 :doh:

Probably that dodgy quantum map bro
Title: Re: Car not starting
Post by: r5gtt on December 18, 2017, 11:36:02 pm
Why people don't understand the big RED TURN THE BLOODY CAR OFF AND GET IT SEEN TOO SIGN :doh:
Title: Re: Car not starting
Post by: GTi-Tecnix on December 18, 2017, 11:46:24 pm
Why people don't understand the big RED TURN THE BLOODY CAR OFF AND GET IT SEEN TOO SIGN :doh:
haha.. you’ve said this a few times I’ve noticed. But I just couldn’t resist. With that sign on dash I was able to drive 60miles home. But is wasn’t until next day I thrashed it completely which I shouldn’t have. But I read somewhere on here that the damage was probably already done when oil pressure flagged. My car was just about to hit 80,000 Mark. Didn’t even make it urggh. That doesn’t put off MK5 GTI car though
Title: Re: Car not starting
Post by: GTi-Tecnix on December 18, 2017, 11:49:16 pm
:doh:

Probably that dodgy quantum map bro
come on bro it was fine.. it was my driving errors that has caused this. The performance felt amazing. Tho for a short retired time. RIP AXX DSG  :phew:

If the engine can’t handle pressure you have to change parts that can resist it but this certainly a learning curve. Hope others will learn from our mistakes of our driving habits and take a leaf from the experience.
Title: Re: Car not starting
Post by: GTi-Tecnix on December 18, 2017, 11:55:48 pm
Now where that Pudding..  :thinking:

Not for me though I’ll skip on that one

lol  :party:
Title: Re: Car not starting
Post by: GTi-Tecnix on December 19, 2017, 04:33:55 am
I notice when my car broke down on the road and died, when I had tried to start it again the it sounded like a battery was flat as it wasn’t ticking over very well that wasn’t firing the engine at all. As I awaited for recovery to pick me and my car up from the roadside the battery was dying completely as I waited in the car for 3 Hours. The air bag was flagging as faulty and the ABS light was flashing. The car stereo just kept wistching off and on again on its own. I suspect my battery Islington now dead after over 8 hours of not being driven. Could it Be the battery not starting the car as I was able to start it fine with the car sounding like a black taxi cab engine as if to say it was a Diesel engine. Not trying to optimistic here but only thinking of a very slight possible that I can get it to start and the take it to my
Mates garage to check the oil pressure issue that is flagging on dash!
Title: Re: Low Oil pressure warning / Car not starting and Battery slowly dying
Post by: Dan_FR on December 19, 2017, 07:20:50 am
I cannot be bothered to explain the detail (sorry, not sorry!) but you have done terminal damage to the engine internals if you have driven the car for 60 miles with less than 1 bar of oil pressure coupled with your description in your most recent post - the warning is triggered at around 0.8 BAR from memory which isn't even enough at idle never mind when driving. If you had stopped at the time you probably would have gotten away with a sump clean and/or new oil pump

Look for another engine, its really that simple. Any time/money/labour spent on this one is just wasted
Title: Re: Low Oil pressure warning / Car not starting and Battery slowly dying
Post by: mk1mad on December 19, 2017, 09:47:41 am
Driving 60 miles with low oil pressure is  stupid  but admitting it on a car forum  :laugh:.

I think a sticky topic should be made to suggest dropping the sump/cleaning pickup as soon as you take ownership of a car.

I recently dropped my sump at 86k and there was hardly anything in the pickup , guess it comes to oil changes and more importantly letting the the turbo cool down before shutting off. 
Title: Re: Low Oil pressure warning / Car not starting and Battery slowly dying
Post by: MIJ_JAGGER on December 19, 2017, 09:56:51 am
"Enthusiast owned, no expense spared"
Feel for you but then you knew it was coming so....
Happy hunting
Title: Re: Car not starting
Post by: pudding on December 19, 2017, 10:56:11 am
Now where that Pudding..  :thinking:

Not for me though I’ll skip on that one

lol  :party:

I have nothing to add buddy, but thanks for thinking of me sweetheart  :love:
Title: Re: Car not starting
Post by: GTi-Tecnix on December 19, 2017, 05:44:09 pm
Now where that Pudding..  :thinking:

Not for me though I’ll skip on that one

lol  :party:

I have nothing to add buddy, but thanks for thinking of me sweetheart  :love:
I need a new engine fitted is that simple. Any ideas where I can get hold of one?
Title: Re: Low Oil pressure warning / Car not starting and Battery slowly dying
Post by: GTi-Tecnix on December 19, 2017, 05:45:03 pm
I was told bottom block is probably damaged but I’m going for a new engine rebuild.
Title: Re: Low Oil pressure warning / Car not starting and Battery slowly dying
Post by: teo_parvu on December 19, 2017, 06:16:23 pm
Some people learn from other's mistakes and some from their own...You've learned the hard way that STOP means stop.
Sorry for your loss!
Title: Re: Low Oil pressure warning / Car not starting and Battery slowly dying
Post by: grey golfster on December 19, 2017, 06:21:38 pm
Just checked my calendar... It is Christmas, not April fools day!?!?!

OP ...are you having a laugh?  :stupid:

My teenage daughter once did something comparably stupid, with her car, many years ago...
As far as I know, she never frequented car owners forums tho.
Title: Re: Low Oil pressure warning / Car not starting and Battery slowly dying
Post by: DavGTI on December 19, 2017, 07:50:17 pm
It’s unbelieveable the car even made it 60 miles lol
Title: Re: Car not starting
Post by: r5gtt on December 19, 2017, 08:08:13 pm
Why people don't understand the big RED TURN THE BLOODY CAR OFF AND GET IT SEEN TOO SIGN :doh:
haha.. you’ve said this a few times I’ve noticed. But I just couldn’t resist. With that sign on dash I was able to drive 60miles home. But is wasn’t until next day I thrashed it completely which I shouldn’t have. But I read somewhere on here that the damage was probably already done when oil pressure flagged. My car was just about to hit 80,000 Mark. Didn’t even make it urggh. That doesn’t put off MK5 GTI car though
There you go! You drove it a further 60miles to completely f*** it up when stopping immediately could have saved the engine like pesky but you now need a complete engine NOT rebuild as you assume as your engine will be scrap to work on. You'll find many engines about eBay if not FB and just don't do it again. Good luck
Title: Re: Car not starting
Post by: GTi-Tecnix on December 19, 2017, 10:18:45 pm
Why people don't understand the big RED TURN THE BLOODY CAR OFF AND GET IT SEEN TOO SIGN :doh:
haha.. you’ve said this a few times I’ve noticed. But I just couldn’t resist. With that sign on dash I was able to drive 60miles home. But is wasn’t until next day I thrashed it completely which I shouldn’t have. But I read somewhere on here that the damage was probably already done when oil pressure flagged. My car was just about to hit 80,000 Mark. Didn’t even make it urggh. That doesn’t put off MK5 GTI car though
There you go! You drove it a further 60miles to completely f*** it up when stopping immediately could have saved the engine like pesky but you now need a complete engine NOT rebuild as you assume as your engine will be scrap to work on. You'll find many engines about eBay if not FB and just don't do it again. Good luck
Yeah realised pesky had the same problem as me. Just one question, does it need to be an AXX engine. I’m shopping right now. Any supply fitters that are highly recommended?

Atm, car is losing power when turning key, ticking over lights are just going mad on dash and and electric clicking noise.. not firing engine😓
Title: Re: Low Oil pressure warning / Car not starting and Battery slowly dying
Post by: GTi-Tecnix on December 19, 2017, 10:34:32 pm
Does it matter if engine is from a manual r a DSG transmission ?
Title: Re: Low Oil pressure warning / Car not starting and Battery slowly dying
Post by: teo_parvu on December 20, 2017, 06:30:02 am
No, the transmission doesn’t matter.
Title: Re: Low Oil pressure warning / Car not starting and Battery slowly dying
Post by: r5gtt on December 20, 2017, 10:09:57 pm
You can fit other engine codes in no problem.
AKS should be able to do this conversion for you aka Alex Kerr.

Transmission has nothing to do with it so you'll be fine.

Pesky got lucky but as you've driven around and still trying to start it means it's totally buggered so no point wasting your time on thatengine now. Just swap the ancillaries over to next engine.
Title: Re: Low Oil pressure warning / Car not starting and Battery slowly dying
Post by: GTi-Tecnix on December 20, 2017, 10:15:14 pm
Two different opinions received as follows:

1st opinion: There was no oil circulating your engine due to the failure of the oil pump. Most likely the knocking noise you heard was the engine's parts rubbing against each other without any.. The cylinder head, camshaft cylinder head and the sump should be Ok. The engine will now not start as no oil feeding engine starved engine while driving with no oil pressure. Damage done to the bottom block of engine.

2nd opinion: Significant damage Has been caused to the cam shaft cylinder head, with additional cam-shaft chain and tensioner damage. Top part of engine needs replacing altogether.

Now from my understanding it could be the cam shaft and the bottom block that have packed up which means the oil pump rods are damaged and/or the oil pick up is clogged up with sutt oil. It could also mean the top end has been caused some significant damage. We won’t jnow for sure what the extent of the damage is until the guys open the engine which is at the garage now for inspection. Will keep you all informed on the feedback  :happy2:

It would seem that the fsi engine on the VW and Audi are same which is disaster oil pressure system in my opinion. The 1.8T conversion is more efficient.

VW will promise you 200bhp but that power is not there to last forever. They are not designed that way at all. Because you’ll soon realise the power of a GTI can only take so much and something will have to give sooner or later which is the problem I have encountered here.
Title: Re: Low Oil pressure warning / Car not starting and Battery slowly dying
Post by: GTi-Tecnix on December 20, 2017, 10:21:44 pm
Title: Re: Low Oil pressure warning / Car not starting and Battery slowly dying
Post by: GTi-Tecnix on December 20, 2017, 10:32:18 pm
Title: Re: Low Oil pressure warning / Car not starting and Battery slowly dying
Post by: r5gtt on December 20, 2017, 10:33:00 pm
You're totally wrong there regards vw Gti's although the actual dealer suck!!! The gti or any other car out there will last as long as it's well looked after  :happy2:
It's all about maintenance changing oil and filter on a regular and no one can tell me differently.  :P
I've known peoples cars to die out at 40k 50k and so forth because oil pick pipes getting blocked up!!! My old car was on 100400k when I bought it with no history after 50k but I maintained it regularly and it lasted 155k and still strong when I sold it on with a lot less rattle comparing it to other tt forum members cars who either serviced once a year or later!.

Find out what your tech has to say after stripping but I'm telling you you're throwing money down the pit imo unless this service is FOC
Title: Re: Low Oil pressure warning / Car not starting and Battery slowly dying
Post by: GTi-Tecnix on December 20, 2017, 10:41:55 pm
You're totally wrong there regards vw Gti's although the actual dealer suck!!! The gti or any other car out there will last as long as it's well looked after  :happy2:
It's all about maintenance changing oil and filter on a regular and no one can tell me differently.  :P
I've known peoples cars to die out at 40k 50k and so forth because oil pick pipes getting blocked up!!! My old car was on 100400k when I bought it with no history after 50k but I maintained it regularly and it lasted 155k and still strong when I sold it on with a lot less rattle comparing it to other tt forum members cars who either serviced once a year or later!.

Find out what your tech has to say after stripping but I'm telling you you're throwing money down the pit imo unless this service is FOC

Yes that of course  :happy2: .. good maintainance of any car in general should be a priority. It could also be the quality of oil you are using. I always serviced my car on Tim! Changed the DSG oil at the ‘stealers’. Now I used Quantum oil fully synthetic for engine service recently which is recommended for the VW folk. But is it really recommended on a mapped engine  :thinking:

Now when I say they are not trustworthy in the long run around the 80,000 mark which when the Fsi engine start playing up on oil management system. Mine was at 78,000. The actual speed that the car can handle on the MK5 is questionable in my opinion.
Title: Re: Low Oil pressure warning / Car not starting and Battery slowly dying
Post by: GTi-Tecnix on December 20, 2017, 10:44:25 pm
You're totally wrong there regards vw Gti's although the actual dealer suck!!! The gti or any other car out there will last as long as it's well looked after  :happy2:
It's all about maintenance changing oil and filter on a regular and no one can tell me differently.  :P
I've known peoples cars to die out at 40k 50k and so forth because oil pick pipes getting blocked up!!! My old car was on 100400k when I bought it with no history after 50k but I maintained it regularly and it lasted 155k and still strong when I sold it on with a lot less rattle comparing it to other tt forum members cars who either serviced once a year or later!.

Find out what your tech has to say after stripping but I'm telling you you're throwing money down the pit imo unless this service is FOC

Yes that of course  :happy2: .. good maintainance of any car in general should be a priority. It could also be the quality of oil you are using. I always serviced my car on Tim! Changed the DSG oil at the ‘stealers’. Now I used Quantum oil fully synthetic for engine service recently which is recommended for the VW folk. But is it really recommended on a mapped engine  :thinking:

Now when I say they are not trustworthy in the long run around the 80,000 mark which when the Fsi engine start playing up on oil management system. Mine was at 78,000. The actual speed that the car can handle on the MK5 is questionable in my opinion.
haha.. nothing free of charge I’m afraid pal lol
Title: Re: Low Oil pressure warning / Car not starting and Battery slowly dying
Post by: r5gtt on December 20, 2017, 11:54:12 pm
Mine is @86500k with a st2+ map on and I'm usuing cheap eurocarparts 5/40 triple qx oil which I used in my TT for 55000k miles and again no issues with the engine at all. Yes people will say I'm a cheap skate but I'm not racing my car around like a nutter on a track even so can't complain about it.
An engine will last with whatever you use as long as you don't over step the mark!.
I change oil and filter every 6k because I'm such an a*al c***  :signLOL: but well worth the £13.40p I spend  :driver:

The actual speed the car can handle when. Rams new out the showroom and not 10-12years down the line but that's questionable and irrelevant to the issue at hand.

That's why I say money down the drain and just buy a new engine as it'll cost a lot more stripping searching and fitting new parts  :doh:
Title: Re: Low Oil pressure warning / Car not starting and Battery slowly dying
Post by: GTi-Tecnix on December 21, 2017, 02:42:21 am
Mine is @86500k with a st2+ map on and I'm usuing cheap eurocarparts 5/40 triple qx oil which I used in my TT for 55000k miles and again no issues with the engine at all. Yes people will say I'm a cheap skate but I'm not racing my car around like a nutter on a track even so can't complain about it.
An engine will last with whatever you use as long as you don't over step the mark!.
I change oil and filter every 6k because I'm such an a*al c***  :signLOL: but well worth the £13.40p I spend  :driver:

The actual speed the car can handle when. Rams new out the showroom and not 10-12years down the line but that's questionable and irrelevant to the issue at hand.

That's why I say money down the drain and just buy a new engine as it'll cost a lot more stripping searching and fitting new parts  :doh:

The guys they’re currently working with two engines to get the best out of both 👍🏽 No harm in dissecting and stripping down in the process and finding the what’s at fault is what I had meant. I’m not doing a pesky checking and that is just waste of time. I knew from the off when my car ceased on road it was “the death”, a famous termilogy the Oldskool mechanic golf like to use. I feel like this thread will go down as a lesson to many to learn from! I hope so  :happy2:

I totally agree that 10 year old car like mine would give in at some point. The performance was fab but At no time did I expect the worst ! Yikes!

My point is if you wanna go down a track then take the R. Don’t choke the GTI. That’s not a track car imo. GTI is a practical car that will last no more than ten years. That’s why there are cars come out very 4-5 years with new ideas of motoring in reshaping these vehicles that we adore so much when driving them on the road in telling us “they’re better and more efficient and by the way.. they’re a bit more nippier too.” 🤐 Hmmm.. are they really?? The VW emmisons bypass scandal comes to mind 🤔. If it didn’t work in this way then the motoring market would collapse. It’s all about reinventing new ideas.. in marketing newer better brands.Hence We all want our cars to live forever.. some DO last a very long time and I do accept that -  some more than others in fact. But in reality it is pure romanticism and a fantasy we all wish to believe close to our hearts my friend.

They stopped manufacturing and producing the MK5 was too expensive to keep on the shelf for VW. Well you only have to see the MK7 to see the plastic tin on that beaut Fully designed car. We were told the MK6 was faster than a MK5. But you would only need to Remap a MK5 GTI under the Stage One software hat would reinvent the MK5 that would be just as quick as the MK6 if not quicker! And whose to say the MK6 is better looking than the the MK5. Not at all. Yuck!

The reason we now have more MK7 R’s on the road than ever before is because we are working with a 2.0T engine and it is for this reason we believe in the efficient “model” in the sale.

But then again Pudding would say there are many ways of burning air/fuel mixture. True but bypassing the process is not the way and rather scandalous.

I now realise there are flaws with the MK5 2.0T FSI and maybe these were deliberate and rather clumsy designing so that there can make way for “New and improved ideas” a-ha!

Though I feel disillusioned with the MK5 2.0T GTI, my biggest disappointment is the very hostile and reluctant Canbus that u have to deal with in this car e.g.  aftermarket leds are forever blinking both inside and outside of the car as soon as you turn the key, battery drains with aftermarket head units, errors flagged on dash to name but a few. Did the guys at VW HQ really think they were getting away with such a grand design without giving the headlamps with bi-xenon head/side/parking lights? No way!
Title: Re: Low Oil pressure warning / Car not starting and Battery slowly dying
Post by: GTi-Tecnix on December 21, 2017, 03:02:41 am
Mine is @86500k with a st2+ map on and I'm usuing cheap eurocarparts 5/40 triple qx oil which I used in my TT for 55000k miles and again no issues with the engine at all. Yes people will say I'm a cheap skate but I'm not racing my car around like a nutter on a track even so can't complain about it.
An engine will last with whatever you use as long as you don't over step the mark!.
I change oil and filter every 6k because I'm such an a*al c***  :signLOL: but well worth the £13.40p I spend  :driver:

The actual speed the car can handle when. Rams new out the showroom and not 10-12years down the line but that's questionable and irrelevant to the issue at hand.

That's why I say money down the drain and just buy a new engine as it'll cost a lot more stripping searching and fitting new parts  :doh:
Then why on earth do we the VW boss state “every 10,000” service due ie once a year!? That’s another scandal. Guys like you are very smart. I did my service a month ago but my dash flags service due in 2,600 miles or 10-11 days 😳

My DSG service stamp advices after 51,000 (3-4) years!
Title: Re: Low Oil pressure warning / Car not starting and Battery slowly dying
Post by: teo_parvu on December 21, 2017, 07:59:00 am
Man, there is no engine in this world that can run for 60 miles without oil, that was the root cause for your killed engine, I'm racing mine continuously for several years now with @340 bhp, no problem.
Your service flag appeared because a reset was not done when you have serviced it.
This engine is one of the strongest on earth, we have hill-climb cars using it. The early versions, like AXX, had some issues, that should be fixed, upgraded, but if you know and solve them it can take a lot of abuse, apart from running without oil.
Title: Re: Low Oil pressure warning / Car not starting and Battery slowly dying
Post by: DavGTI on December 21, 2017, 08:47:41 am
I’m confused between this and the other threads. Did your cam chain and tensioner fail? Or was your oil pick up pipe blocked? Or did you just have no oil?
Title: Re: Low Oil pressure warning / Car not starting and Battery slowly dying
Post by: pudding on December 21, 2017, 09:27:02 am
I change oil and filter every 6k because I'm such an a*al c***  :signLOL: but well worth the £13.40p I spend  :driver:

Oil change every 3K in mine  :grin:
Title: Re: Low Oil pressure warning / Car not starting and Battery slowly dying
Post by: lukemk5gti on December 21, 2017, 09:48:22 am
Has anyone considered the OP could be a bot testing it's user interface system because these replies are just unbelievable?

Sorry bud, no offence meant but Jesus Christ I've been reading this thread for days now and you could not have constructed a more perfect sh*t storm for your cars destruction and then you make things worse by stating the likes of "GTI is a practical car that will last no more than ten years"

Don't be an eejit, get yourself a push bike.
Title: Re: Low Oil pressure warning / Car not starting and Battery slowly dying
Post by: GTi-Tecnix on December 21, 2017, 02:15:22 pm
Man, there is no engine in this world that can run for 60 miles without oil, that was the root cause for your killed engine, I'm racing mine continuously for several years now with @340 bhp, no problem.
Your service flag appeared because a reset was not done when you have serviced it.
This engine is one of the strongest on earth, we have hill-climb cars using it. The early versions, like AXX, had some issues, that should be fixed, upgraded, but if you know and solve them it can take a lot of abuse, apart from running without oil.
Just to clarify I checked engine oil when I had stopped for ten mins on the motorway when the stop engine oil pressure was flagged on dash. Oil level was absolutely fine! Right on the max. Checks oil again yesterday and still on the max.
Title: Re: Low Oil pressure warning / Car not starting and Battery slowly dying
Post by: GTi-Tecnix on December 21, 2017, 02:17:42 pm
I’m confused between this and the other threads. Did your cam chain and tensioner fail? Or was your oil pick up pipe blocked? Or did you just have no oil?
There was oil in engine. Car has ceased its got to be the bottom block oil pump and cam shaft that is probably gone. Having it checked in garage so will get back on here with further info.
Title: Re: Low Oil pressure warning / Car not starting and Battery slowly dying
Post by: r5gtt on December 21, 2017, 03:59:34 pm
I change oil and filter every 6k because I'm such an a*al c***  :signLOL: but well worth the £13.40p I spend  :driver:

Oil change every 3K in mine  :grin:
:happy2: I was meant to type 6months not 6k 😂😂😂 which is probably 2k if at all :P
Title: Re: Low Oil pressure warning / Car not starting and Battery slowly dying
Post by: teo_parvu on December 21, 2017, 04:07:18 pm
OMG...so you had oil, but no pressure, that was the sign for.  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Low Oil pressure warning / Car not starting and Battery slowly dying
Post by: r5gtt on December 21, 2017, 04:24:40 pm
Mine is @86500k with a st2+ map on and I'm usuing cheap eurocarparts 5/40 triple qx oil which I used in my TT for 55000k miles and again no issues with the engine at all. Yes people will say I'm a cheap skate but I'm not racing my car around like a nutter on a track even so can't complain about it.
An engine will last with whatever you use as long as you don't over step the mark!.
I change oil and filter every 6k because I'm such an a*al c***  :signLOL: but well worth the £13.40p I spend  :driver:

The actual speed the car can handle when. Rams new out the showroom and not 10-12years down the line but that's questionable and irrelevant to the issue at hand.

That's why I say money down the drain and just buy a new engine as it'll cost a lot more stripping searching and fitting new parts  :doh:
Then why on earth do we the VW boss state “every 10,000” service due ie once a year!? That’s another scandal. Guys like you are very smart. I did my service a month ago but my dash flags service due in 2,600 miles or 10-11 days 😳

My DSG service stamp advices after 51,000 (3-4) years!
Its what they recommend and not really a scandal mate, the real scandal is long life servicing which is bull**** imho and the cause of a lot of engine issues!!!, but me on the other hand know that it's better to replace the oil much sooner to protect and extend the life of any engine! and for What I pay for oil and a filter which costs more than the oil is worth the oil change every six months. Dsg in my booklet says 40k from what I remember but I'll get it done in 30k which is another 10k Miles for piece of mind that it's been done  :smiley: and again at another 30k

Reset your cars service light and it should go back to 9000k I think it is ?

Title: Re: Low Oil pressure warning / Car not starting and Battery slowly dying
Post by: GTi-Tecnix on December 21, 2017, 05:32:13 pm
Just spoke to the mechanic they going to change full engine which is more practical. And if need be use extras from what is left on my car because the engine is not completely gone on my car.

He asked me to get my own oil and oil filter. What do you recommend aside from Quantum semi synthetic oil?

Thanks
Title: Re: Low Oil pressure warning / Car not starting and Battery slowly dying
Post by: GTi-Tecnix on December 21, 2017, 05:36:55 pm
Mine is @86500k with a st2+ map on and I'm usuing cheap eurocarparts 5/40 triple qx oil which I used in my TT for 55000k miles and again no issues with the engine at all. Yes people will say I'm a cheap skate but I'm not racing my car around like a nutter on a track even so can't complain about it.
An engine will last with whatever you use as long as you don't over step the mark!.
I change oil and filter every 6k because I'm such an a*al c***  :signLOL: but well worth the £13.40p I spend  :driver:

The actual speed the car can handle when. Rams new out the showroom and not 10-12years down the line but that's questionable and irrelevant to the issue at hand.

That's why I say money down the drain and just buy a new engine as it'll cost a lot more stripping searching and fitting new parts  :doh:
Then why on earth do we the VW boss state “every 10,000” service due ie once a year!? That’s another scandal. Guys like you are very smart. I did my service a month ago but my dash flags service due in 2,600 miles or 10-11 days 😳

My DSG service stamp advices after 51,000 (3-4) years!
Its what they recommend and not really a scandal mate, the real scandal is long life servicing which is bull**** imho and the cause of a lot of engine issues!!!, but me on the other hand know that it's better to replace the oil much sooner to protect and extend the life of any engine! and for What I pay for oil and a filter which costs more than the oil is worth the oil change every six months. Dsg in my booklet says 40k from what I remember but I'll get it done in 30k which is another 10k Miles for piece of mind that it's been done  :smiley: and again at another 30k

Reset your cars service light and it should go back to 9000k I think it is ?
Yes my mechanic forgot to reset it when he did the service on my car last month.

Is there also a reset on the fuel filter 6.6 bar?
Title: Re: Low Oil pressure warning / Car not starting and Battery slowly dying
Post by: GTi-Tecnix on December 21, 2017, 05:42:48 pm
Battery dying completely now is due to the aftermarket stereo that drains battery Like made! Even though the stereo had come with own canbus unit it’s still killed the battery and battery was a Bosch 5 only replaced just last year !  How can a car of this standard have such power-teething problems once you replace its stock outfits ! 🤔🤐

I’ve never had substantial battery fail problem in any of 15 year driving history
!

Canbus you really suck indeed!
Title: Re: Low Oil pressure warning / Car not starting and Battery slowly dying
Post by: r5gtt on December 21, 2017, 06:05:51 pm
Mine is @86500k with a st2+ map on and I'm usuing cheap eurocarparts 5/40 triple qx oil which I used in my TT for 55000k miles and again no issues with the engine at all. Yes people will say I'm a cheap skate but I'm not racing my car around like a nutter on a track even so can't complain about it.
An engine will last with whatever you use as long as you don't over step the mark!.
I change oil and filter every 6k because I'm such an a*al c***  :signLOL: but well worth the £13.40p I spend  :driver:

The actual speed the car can handle when. Rams new out the showroom and not 10-12years down the line but that's questionable and irrelevant to the issue at hand.

That's why I say money down the drain and just buy a new engine as it'll cost a lot more stripping searching and fitting new parts  :doh:
Then why on earth do we the VW boss state “every 10,000” service due ie once a year!? That’s another scandal. Guys like you are very smart. I did my service a month ago but my dash flags service due in 2,600 miles or 10-11 days 😳

My DSG service stamp advices after 51,000 (3-4) years!
Its what they recommend and not really a scandal mate, the real scandal is long life servicing which is bull**** imho and the cause of a lot of engine issues!!!, but me on the other hand know that it's better to replace the oil much sooner to protect and extend the life of any engine! and for What I pay for oil and a filter which costs more than the oil is worth the oil change every six months. Dsg in my booklet says 40k from what I remember but I'll get it done in 30k which is another 10k Miles for piece of mind that it's been done  :smiley: and again at another 30k

Reset your cars service light and it should go back to 9000k I think it is ?
Yes my mechanic forgot to reset it when he did the service on my car last month.

Is there also a reset on the fuel filter 6.6 bar?
yea you need to use vcds to clear the fault code that will come up when replacing the fuel filter.

See, we've been telling you the engine needs replacing f on the start as your mechanic probably doesn't want the headache and what's he said about your internals of the engine asidreally like to know what's damaged inside?

Just use quantum 5/40 "fully synthetic"  :happy2: not semi
Title: Re: Low Oil pressure warning / Car not starting and Battery slowly dying
Post by: GTi-Tecnix on December 21, 2017, 07:31:25 pm
Mine is @86500k with a st2+ map on and I'm usuing cheap eurocarparts 5/40 triple qx oil which I used in my TT for 55000k miles and again no issues with the engine at all. Yes people will say I'm a cheap skate but I'm not racing my car around like a nutter on a track even so can't complain about it.
An engine will last with whatever you use as long as you don't over step the mark!.
I change oil and filter every 6k because I'm such an a*al c***  :signLOL: but well worth the £13.40p I spend  :driver:

The actual speed the car can handle when. Rams new out the showroom and not 10-12years down the line but that's questionable and irrelevant to the issue at hand.

That's why I say money down the drain and just buy a new engine as it'll cost a lot more stripping searching and fitting new parts  :doh:
Then why on earth do we the VW boss state “every 10,000” service due ie once a year!? That’s another scandal. Guys like you are very smart. I did my service a month ago but my dash flags service due in 2,600 miles or 10-11 days 😳

My DSG service stamp advices after 51,000 (3-4) years!
Its what they recommend and not really a scandal mate, the real scandal is long life servicing which is bull**** imho and the cause of a lot of engine issues!!!, but me on the other hand know that it's better to replace the oil much sooner to protect and extend the life of any engine! and for What I pay for oil and a filter which costs more than the oil is worth the oil change every six months. Dsg in my booklet says 40k from what I remember but I'll get it done in 30k which is another 10k Miles for piece of mind that it's been done  :smiley: and again at another 30k

Reset your cars service light and it should go back to 9000k I think it is ?
Yes my mechanic forgot to reset it when he did the service on my car last month.

Is there also a reset on the fuel filter 6.6 bar?
yea you need to use vcds to clear the fault code that will come up when replacing the fuel filter.

See, we've been telling you the engine needs replacing f on the start as your mechanic probably doesn't want the headache and what's he said about your internals of the engine asidreally like to know what's damaged inside?

Just use quantum 5/40 "fully synthetic"  :happy2: not semi
I think I used 5/30 fully synthetic in the recent service.In reference to your previous post- I don’t think You’re a cheap skate bud your a practical driver it seems! They haven’t started work on it yet as they’re currently busy with another engine replace on another car. I’m next in the list 👍🏽.. hopefully there should be an insight roughly by Monday not that there will much who will be bothered to check online threads for obvious reasons!
At least one thing will be sure is whether my exhaust will keep popping like it did in the current engine in my car. Asked them to clean injectors aswell as they will use my old ones. So we will know for sure if there was infact any misfire in the engine once the new engine is fitted @pudding! I always suspected it was the exhaust and not engine issue. Let’s see now.
Title: Re: Low Oil pressure warning / Car not starting and Battery slowly dying
Post by: GTi-Tecnix on December 21, 2017, 07:32:27 pm
Just out of curiousity, what changes were needed on your st2 Remap?
Title: Re: Low Oil pressure warning / Car not starting and Battery slowly dyi
Post by: r5gtt on December 21, 2017, 09:23:33 pm
Just out of curiousity, what changes were needed on your st2 Remap?
Cheers mate, nice of you to say so  :happy2: it's so much better and healthier for an engine imho and will help longitivity of the engine.
I'd recommend 5/40 to be on the safe side.

Re stage 2+ mods

Full 3" turbo back BCS power valve system.
Ram air CAI
VIS hpfp internals
RS4 frpv
FMIC welly cooler 600x300x70mm
GFB DV+
BKR7EIX Iridium plugs

Title: Re: Low Oil pressure warning / Car not starting and Battery slowly dyi
Post by: GTi-Tecnix on December 21, 2017, 11:09:15 pm
Just out of curiousity, what changes were needed on your st2 Remap?
Cheers mate, nice of you to say so  :happy2: it's so much better and healthier for an engine imho and will help longitivity of the engine.
I'd recommend 5/40 to be on the safe side.

Re stage 2+ mods

Full 3" turbo back BCS power valve system.
Ram air CAI
VIS hpfp internals
RS4 frpv
FMIC welly cooler 600x300x70mm
GFB DV+
BKR7EIX Iridium plugs
Nice! I might have to follow suit! I have the same spark plugs as you do on your car, a Ram air induction kit, Audi R8 coil pack.  I’ve noticed a lot of people do a PCV delete. Did you go for this?
Title: Re: Low Oil pressure warning / Car not starting and Battery slowly dyi
Post by: r5gtt on December 21, 2017, 11:49:02 pm
Just out of curiousity, what changes were needed on your st2 Remap?
Cheers mate, nice of you to say so  :happy2: it's so much better and healthier for an engine imho and will help longitivity of the engine.
I'd recommend 5/40 to be on the safe side.

Re stage 2+ mods

Full 3" turbo back BCS power valve system.
Ram air CAI
VIS hpfp internals
RS4 frpv
FMIC welly cooler 600x300x70mm
GFB DV+
BKR7EIX Iridium plugs
Nice! I might have to follow suit! I have the same spark plugs as you do on your car, a Ram air induction kit, Audi R8 coil pack.  I’ve noticed a lot of people do a PCV delete. Did you go for this?
I was going K04 tbh but backed out twice for reasons I can't or won't explain  :wink:

I've not gone Pcv delete but gone and bought a revo catch can set up instead

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Title: Re: Low Oil Pressure Warning / Engine rattling/Car not starting/Battery slowly dying
Post by: GTi-Tecnix on December 24, 2017, 07:54:12 pm
Whole engine has now been stripped and whole front chassis and bumper is off. Engine was completely ceased and won’t even turn or start when they tried to start it. The camshaft is ceased. The valves not working and bent. Whilst they are working on the new engine changing bits over to the new engine, they require the following:

1. New camshaft chain kit
2. New water pump- there were signs of overheating problems with my engine that had been undetected by me previously
3. New radiator


I also need a high fuel pressure pump regulator sensor which was previously cracked but held into place with a metal cable wire but unfortunately they dont sell the sensor on their own anymore. Hence You have to buy the whole pump with the sensor 😬

It would also seem that there was in fact a misfire in the previous engine i.e. exhaust pops @pudding.. maybe I should clean the injectors but mechanic advises use injector cleaner in the tank when filling up which I’ve been doing regularly..

It seems there are varying radiator size for the MK5 I’m not sure which size I need to buy!
Title: Re: Low Oil Pressure Warning / Engine rattling/Car not starting/Battery slowly dying
Post by: r5gtt on December 24, 2017, 11:52:13 pm
New cam chain kit is a must along with *timing belt kit and water pump* if you ask me. Yes just buy a used pump which aren't expensive. Definitely get your injectors cleaned by R tech or similar as you may as well now they're out  :doh: don't listen to your mechanic  :slap: they don't know what they're faffing on about!!!
Yes you need a mk5 gti radiator not diesel or 1.4-1.6 etc plenty about if you look around.
Title: Re: Low Oil Pressure Warning / Engine rattling/Car not starting/Battery slowly dying
Post by: GTi-Tecnix on December 25, 2017, 12:47:53 am
New cam chain kit is a must along with *timing belt kit and water pump* if you ask me. Yes just buy a used pump which aren't expensive. Definitely get your injectors cleaned by R tech or similar as you may as well now they're out  :doh: don't listen to your mechanic  :slap: they don't know what they're faffing on about!!!
Yes you need a mk5 gti radiator not diesel or 1.4-1.6 etc plenty about if you look around.
Got the high fuel pressure regulator with the sensor. I’m getting a new radiator from eurocar parts but with my car they state there’s two types one is slightly bigger than other. I don’t have R-tech where I live but I’ll try to find others who can clean my injectors - anyone know where they clean injectors? ! ... I’m sure I need them cleaned because I had previous issues with carbon build up on my spark plugs and issues with EM light and I’m presuming this May be the underlying cause. I was told to clean them you have to use electricity to get them open.

The timing belt was recently changed and was advised that it’s probabkg not required although they did recommend to change along with the water pump with the engine all out in the open. I also need a timing chain kit so looking around as it’s so expensive buying a brand new kit!

Thanks for the heads up mate!
Title: Re: Low Oil Pressure Warning / Engine rattling/Car not starting/Battery slowly dying
Post by: GTi-Tecnix on December 25, 2017, 10:50:38 pm
I Heard that you can clean injectors by soaking them in diesel overnight. Anyone know if this works? Or does anyone known anyplace in London that do a injector cleaning survice. This is a very important process..
Title: Re: Low Oil Pressure Warning / Engine rattling/Car not starting/Battery slowly dying
Post by: r5gtt on December 25, 2017, 11:09:41 pm
I know you said the t belt has been replaced but because you've had major engine seizure I'd recommend a fresh belt as that one coins have stretched!!! it's cheap enough not saying we can all afford spares but for piece of mind you'll be best to change it. Injectors need internally cleaning so soaking them won't do out to them!! They need to be ultrasonically cleaned which does mean having them put on the special machine wired up and spray tested!!! Send them off to Niki @ R tech or alex @ AKS as engine will be out the car!!! @vRSAlex (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1981) I think I've got that right  :thinking:
Title: Re: Low Oil Pressure Warning / Engine rattling/Car not starting/Battery slowly dying
Post by: GTi-Tecnix on December 26, 2017, 01:14:53 am
I know you said the t belt has been replaced but because you've had major engine seizure I'd recommend a fresh belt as that one coins have stretched!!! it's cheap enough not saying we can all afford spares but for piece of mind you'll be best to change it. Injectors need internally cleaning so soaking them won't do out to them!! They need to be ultrasonically cleaned which does mean having them put on the special machine wired up and spray tested!!! Send them off to Niki @ R tech or alex @ AKS as engine will be out the car!!! @vRSAlex (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1981) I think I've got that right  :thinking:
Yes engine is already off! But if I send them off won’t get the back in time. It’s time consuming but I’ll look around to see if there are any in london that do this. I think I will change new timing belt with water pump and New cam timing chain kit. Best to do all new 😊
Title: Re: Low Oil Pressure Warning / Engine rattling/Car not starting/Battery slowly dying
Post by: r5gtt on December 26, 2017, 07:53:20 pm
I reckon you'll have them back within two days of sending. Call r tech performance Leicester
Title: Re: Low Oil Pressure Warning / Engine rattling/Car not starting/Battery slowly dying
Post by: Rob1 on December 26, 2017, 10:13:23 pm
I Heard that you can clean injectors by soaking them in diesel overnight. Anyone know if this works? Or does anyone known anyplace in London that do a injector cleaning survice. This is a very important process..

Hi mate a song recommended try AKS or R-Tech, I know Nicky at R-Tech exchanges the injectors as part of the injector clean service, so well worth giving him a call.

Also whereabouts are you in London
Title: Re: Low Oil Pressure Warning / Engine rattling/Car not starting/Battery slowly dying
Post by: GTi-Tecnix on December 26, 2017, 10:27:54 pm
I Heard that you can clean injectors by soaking them in diesel overnight. Anyone know if this works? Or does anyone known anyplace in London that do a injector cleaning survice. This is a very important process..

Hi mate a song recommended try AKS or R-Tech, I know Nicky at R-Tech exchanges the injectors as part of the injector clean service, so well worth giving him a call.

Also whereabouts are you in London
cheers for the heads up! I’m in east London area near Stratford.

Just a quick question regarding radiator. Which radiator do I need as I know there’s one for A/C. My car has E-Con.
Title: Re: Low Oil Pressure Warning / Engine rattling/Car not starting/Battery slowly dying
Post by: rich83 on December 26, 2017, 11:54:41 pm
I Heard that you can clean injectors by soaking them in diesel overnight. Anyone know if this works? Or does anyone known anyplace in London that do a injector cleaning survice. This is a very important process..

Hi mate a song recommended try AKS or R-Tech, I know Nicky at R-Tech exchanges the injectors as part of the injector clean service, so well worth giving him a call.

Also whereabouts are you in London
cheers for the heads up! I’m in east London area near Stratford.

Just a quick question regarding radiator. Which radiator do I need as I know there’s one for A/C. My car has E-Con.

No difference.
Title: Re: Low Oil Pressure Warning / Engine rattling/Car not starting/Battery slowly dying
Post by: GTi-Tecnix on December 27, 2017, 12:05:00 am
I Heard that you can clean injectors by soaking them in diesel overnight. Anyone know if this works? Or does anyone known anyplace in London that do a injector cleaning survice. This is a very important process..

Hi mate a song recommended try AKS or R-Tech, I know Nicky at R-Tech exchanges the injectors as part of the injector clean service, so well worth giving him a call.

Also whereabouts are you in London
cheers for the heads up! I’m in east London area near Stratford.

Just a quick question regarding radiator. Which radiator do I need as I know there’s one for A/C. My car has E-Con.

No difference.
nice one  :happy2:
Title: Re: Low Oil Pressure Warning / Engine rattling/Car not starting/Battery slowly dying
Post by: Jesse390 on December 28, 2017, 08:57:39 am
I'm in the same situation as you, my son drove my car albeit a quarter of a mile with the red oil light on. His lesson my pocket. Mine is an edition 30 and only had it 5 months. To say I'm gutted would be an understatement. I'm going to strip it and see if it can be saved.
Title: Re: Low Oil Pressure Warning / Engine rattling/Car not starting/Battery slowly dying
Post by: GTi-Tecnix on December 28, 2017, 07:35:35 pm
I'm in the same situation as you, my son drove my car albeit a quarter of a mile with the red oil light on. His lesson my pocket. Mine is an edition 30 and only had it 5 months. To say I'm gutted would be an understatement. I'm going to strip it and see if it can be saved.
I’m very sorry to hear this. After 80,000 miles these TFSI do start giving these troubles unfortunately 😬.. I had my car just over a year!

I drove 60miles it’s oil pressure warning. The damage was done following day when putting foot down! I have learnt never to underestimate a Oil Pressure warning!

It is a stressful situation indeed. Does you engine sound like a diesel?
Title: Re: Low Oil Pressure Warning / Engine rattling/Car not starting/Battery slowly dying
Post by: GTi-Tecnix on December 28, 2017, 07:39:01 pm
Right. GOt a new timing chain kit, New timing belt and water pump, and a new radiator.

I need an oil filter housing gasget seal but dealers say won’t arrive until next Tuesday!

Anywhere I can get any sooner although this a dealer part mainly?

Thanks
Title: Re: Low Oil Pressure Warning / Engine rattling/Car not starting/Battery slowly dying
Post by: pudding on December 30, 2017, 03:34:09 pm
It would also seem that there was in fact a misfire in the previous engine i.e. exhaust pops @pudding.. maybe I should clean the injectors but mechanic advises use injector cleaner in the tank when filling up which I’ve been doing regularly..

If your engine has done 80,000 or more, it's not worth attempting to clean them.  At best the fix will be temporary.  Put new ones in and forget about it.  Perfect fuel quantity and atomisation is critical in these engines.
Title: Re: Low Oil Pressure Warning / Engine rattling/Car not starting/Battery slowly dying
Post by: andyiseddy02 on December 30, 2017, 05:22:39 pm
I'm in the same situation as you, my son drove my car albeit a quarter of a mile with the red oil light on. His lesson my pocket. Mine is an edition 30 and only had it 5 months. To say I'm gutted would be an understatement. I'm going to strip it and see if it can be saved.
I’m very sorry to hear this. After 80,000 miles these TFSI do start giving these troubles unfortunately 😬.. I had my car just over a year!

I drove 60miles it’s oil pressure warning. The damage was done following day when putting foot down! I have learnt never to underestimate a Oil Pressure warning!

It is a stressful situation indeed. Does you engine sound like a diesel?
Bit of a generalisation there about the longevity of the engines.
I have the same engine in my Passat estate, currently on 129k, as it has been said before an engine lasts well if it has been looked after properly. 
My service book is on it's last free space, I had the sump removed earlier this year and pick up pipe changed.
Later I asked about a re-map and I was advised that the timing chain was getting noisy so that got done with everything that was needed. (Including an extra oil change a week later).
Only then did I get the APR re-map done and it is running as sweet as ever, uses about half a ltr of oil in about 2k miles.
Title: Re: Low Oil Pressure Warning / Engine rattling/Car not starting/Battery slowly dying
Post by: Dan_FR on December 31, 2017, 07:34:15 am
I'm in the same situation as you, my son drove my car albeit a quarter of a mile with the red oil light on. His lesson my pocket. Mine is an edition 30 and only had it 5 months. To say I'm gutted would be an understatement. I'm going to strip it and see if it can be saved.
I’m very sorry to hear this. After 80,000 miles these TFSI do start giving these troubles unfortunately 😬.. I had my car just over a year!

I drove 60miles it’s oil pressure warning. The damage was done following day when putting foot down! I have learnt never to underestimate a Oil Pressure warning!

It is a stressful situation indeed. Does you engine sound like a diesel?
Not true at all. I've seen these engines reach 150k + miles without a hiccup. You had an issue, probably the most dangerous issue an engine can have, which you ignored and it cost you an engine - it doesn't mean you can create a vague generalisation like that based on your own experience.
Title: Re: Low Oil Pressure Warning / Engine rattling/Car not starting/Battery slowly dying
Post by: r5gtt on December 31, 2017, 04:53:56 pm
Yeah they all blow up at or after 80k so beware  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Low Oil pressure warning / Car not starting and Battery slowly dying
Post by: grey golfster on January 02, 2018, 12:16:09 pm
Has anyone considered the OP could be a bot testing it's user interface system because these replies are just unbelievable?

Agreed.... this is just weird!
Title: Re: Low Oil Pressure Warning / Engine rattling/Car not starting/Battery slowly dying
Post by: r5gtt on January 02, 2018, 03:14:01 pm
 :sick:
Title: Re: Low Oil Pressure Warning / Engine rattling/Car not starting/Battery slowly dying
Post by: rich83 on January 02, 2018, 04:09:56 pm
Clown
Title: Re: Low Oil Pressure Warning / Engine rattling/Car not starting/Battery slowly dying
Post by: GTi-Tecnix on January 03, 2018, 04:03:43 pm
 :grin:
Yeah they all blow up at or after 80k so beware  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Low Oil Pressure Warning / Engine rattling/Car not starting/Battery slowly dying
Post by: GTi-Tecnix on January 03, 2018, 10:21:41 pm
So new engine fitted but getting this new grinding rattling noise which is different to what the rattle sounded like before.. It’s Not a normal rattle like before when the engine seized but a persistent grinding rattle. The noise goes sometimes but comes back again! The Stop Engine Light / Oil Pressure has since come back on again when I had driven it, to test-drive the car. I’m told that I have two options with regards to the oil pressure warning that’s flagged again:

1. Oil pressure switch
2. Oil pump

It could also be my old switch that they had used on the new engine which could be still flagging up on my dash.

The garage suspects that it could be the hydraulic cam-follower tappet which sits behind the high fuel pressure that is causing the heat grind grrrrrr noise. The noise goes away and comes back again. When test-driving the car the noise went away intermittently but has come back against Noise Definitely coming from the passengers side.

Ps minus all the critics on here .. just catching up! :grin:
Title: Re: Low Oil Pressure Warning / Engine rattling/Car not starting/Battery slowly dying
Post by: Dan_FR on January 03, 2018, 11:10:43 pm
Why were the basics, such as the cam follower, not checked before installing the engine?

So what you're saying is you've driven another engine with no oil pressure?
Title: Re: Low Oil Pressure Warning / Engine rattling/Car not starting/Battery slowly dying
Post by: GTi-Tecnix on January 04, 2018, 12:36:37 am
I’m going to change oil to 10w 40 Fully synthetic as I used the 5w 30. Some engines need more pressure as they age which is probably appropriate in my case.

Will check the oil pressure tomorrow at the garage - car is still with the guys!

The cam follower was ok when we checked it - there wasn’t any visible wear that was serious as some of the horror stories I’ve read online! but I always knew at the back of mind that I should change it but it must’ve slipped my mind. 

To recap, I’ve  changed the following:
Cam-timing chain kit
Timing belt
Water pump
Radiator
5w 30 oil Oil / oil filter

Will need to see if it’s the oil pressure switch or if changing oil grade helps the warning at all.
Title: Re: Low Oil Pressure Warning / Engine rattling/Car not starting/Battery slowly dying
Post by: Dan_FR on January 04, 2018, 07:08:26 am
Right - firstly 5W30 is fine. All a 10w40 will do is mask any issues temporarily

Secondly check the oil pressure and then get the mechanics to identify where the noise is originating from. You mention checking the cam follower, but I thought this was a new engine? Or have you reused your old follower and HPFP or something???

Finally, again,  do not change the oil grade to try and fix this issue!!! Get the pressure checked properly, if it is low, get it fixed properly before you kill another engine.
Title: Re: Low Oil Pressure Warning / Engine rattling/Car not starting/Battery slowly dying
Post by: GTi-Tecnix on January 04, 2018, 01:57:23 pm
Right - firstly 5W30 is fine. All a 10w40 will do is mask any issues temporarily

Secondly check the oil pressure and then get the mechanics to identify where the noise is originating from. You mention checking the cam follower, but I thought this was a new engine? Or have you reused your old follower and HPFP or something???

Finally, again,  do not change the oil grade to try and fix this issue!!! Get the pressure checked properly, if it is low, get it fixed properly before you kill another engine.
yes they used my old cam follower and I got a second hand hpfp because the sensor on my old one was broken so had to get a new one. They are changing the oil pressure switch sensor first to see.
Title: Re: Low Oil Pressure Warning / Engine rattling/Car not starting/Battery slowly dying
Post by: pudding on January 04, 2018, 02:27:02 pm
Or you could just cut out the guess work by installing an oil pressure gauge into the filter housing to see what the actual pressure is.
Title: Re: Low Oil Pressure Warning / Engine rattling/Car not starting/Battery slowly dying
Post by: Dan_FR on January 04, 2018, 02:55:23 pm
^^Exactly this^^

Any decent garage should have an old fashioned mechanical pressure testing kit - screw in the adaptor in place of the oil pressure switch and check how much pressure you have. If it is very low (less than say 3 Bar on a cold idle, or less than a Bar on a warm idle) then switch it off and get the sump off it

A healthy engine should see 5 Bar plus of oil pressure on a cold start
Title: Re: Low Oil Pressure Warning / Engine rattling/Car not starting/Battery slowly dying
Post by: pudding on January 04, 2018, 03:25:36 pm
And just to add to that /\, the oil pressure sender is M10x1 thread pitch, so make sure the garage don't just ram any old 1/8 NTP fitting into it and fook the threads up!  Seen that done so many times because M10x1 isn't a common thread for pressure fittings.



Title: Re: Low Oil Pressure Warning / Engine rattling/Car not starting/Battery slowly dying
Post by: GTi-Tecnix on January 04, 2018, 04:10:17 pm
Thanks for the input guys they dont have have an oil pressure tester but a compressor with gauge is at the garage for tyres.

Forgot to mention that the rev counter is flicking up to 20 not running smooth as should.
Title: Re: Low Oil Pressure Warning / Engine rattling/Car not starting/Battery slowly dying
Post by: GTi-Tecnix on January 04, 2018, 04:46:09 pm
And just to add to that /\, the oil pressure sender is M10x1 thread pitch, so make sure the garage don't just ram any old 1/8 NTP fitting into it and fook the threads up!  Seen that done so many times because M10x1 isn't a common thread for pressure fittings.
was a nice Xmas for you Puds?  :party:  :grin:

Large up your shoes and socks!
Title: Re: Low Oil Pressure Warning / Engine rattling/Car not starting/Battery slowly dying
Post by: MIJ_JAGGER on January 04, 2018, 05:06:46 pm
Why didn't you stick an Ed30 engine in?
Perfect opportunity for it
Title: Re: Low Oil Pressure Warning / Engine rattling/Car not starting/Battery slowly dying
Post by: GTi-Tecnix on January 04, 2018, 06:08:45 pm
My oil pressure switch is single terminal pin!

Alternate OEM ref i.e:

06A919081D /& or
06A919081J
Title: Re: Low Oil Pressure Warning / Engine rattling/Car not starting/Battery slowly dying
Post by: GTi-Tecnix on January 04, 2018, 08:23:50 pm
My oil pressure switch is single terminal pin!

Alternate OEM ref i.e:

06A919081D /& or
06A919081J


Folks, if you’re in the same boat as me, then to check the oil pressure switch would be the first point of checking which is relatively the least serious and cheapest option i.e. solution to remedy or rectify.  :happy2:
Title: Re: Low Oil Pressure Warning / Engine rattling/Car not starting/Battery slowly dying
Post by: GTi-Tecnix on January 11, 2018, 10:10:16 pm
So oil pressure switch changed and oil warning is off now thankfully. Changed the cam follower too!
However we've now taken out the cam chain adjuster housing cover and seen some wear on there where the rings sit. (I used my old one on the new engine). BTW I bought just the engine block off the internet at relatively a cheap deal, and used most of the anciliaries from my old engine.

Whilst there is some considerable doubt with the engine, we are still attempting in trying to find the route problem i.e. the grinding rattle noise and have found it could be one of the camshafts as one is slightly away from its edge on none of the sides and not sitting flush ( you can place a piece of paper in between the gap).. One of my shafts on the old engine was OK and the other was badly damaged through cessation. So going to use one of the camshafts to replace.

Now the thing I'm really concerned with is when the new timing chain, adjuster and tensioner were fitted, the mechanic may not have been aware that there is a special tool for the GTI to fit the the chain i.e. holding the camshafts aligned in place whilst doing so! I'm a but worried about this part. Nonetheless we are taking off the camshaft rail that hold the two in place but I'm having to remind my mechanic that he MUST ensure to use the torque wrench when placing the bolts back in with 8 power! (Hope this is correct as I have a stage one map). I also advised him too use the special prematex grey torque sealant for the cam rail which is a thin layer on the edges when placing it back on.

In order to get to the camshaft we want to replace- we have had to undo the expansion tank, alternator tensioner belt, disconnect fuel rails and connections, water pipes, top mount and in order to get to the timing belt, we were wrestling to take out the bottom engine Mount which was an absolute nightmare with the lack of space to manoeuvre there and the brake fluid tank in the way! We unbolted the cover and then jacked the engine up in order to allow sufficient room to get that monting off- this was a very risky process to use a wooden plank underneath the sump to raise the engine as the engine slips if you jack it too hugh! The timing chain has to come off too at the other side.
Title: Re: Low Oil Pressure Warning / Engine rattling/Car not starting/Battery slowly dying
Post by: pudding on January 12, 2018, 09:46:03 am
Wear in the VVT adjuster is normal.  If it's a problem you will get "slow response" fault codes.   You can also track it's response with VCDS.

If I were you I would fit a new complete engine.   Not really a good idea mixing and matching cams when they are line bored to each cylinder head, plus too much scope for error with the timing unless you are at expert level.  Doesn't sound like your garage is at that level if they didn't even use the locking tool for the cams.
Title: Re: Low Oil Pressure Warning / Engine rattling/Car not starting/Battery slowly dying
Post by: r5gtt on January 13, 2018, 04:20:32 am
Buy cheap buy twice without sounding like a critic  :signLOL:

New engine needed, no half baked parts or is your name josh from the tt forum who never listened and ended up scrapping the car after spending £2k  :stupid:  :popcornsoda:
Title: Re: Low Oil Pressure Warning / Engine rattling/Car not starting/Battery slowly dying
Post by: GTi-Tecnix on January 13, 2018, 04:32:34 pm
Buy cheap buy twice without sounding like a critic  :signLOL:

New engine needed, no half baked parts or is your name josh from the tt forum who never listened and ended up scrapping the car after spending £2k  :stupid:  :popcornsoda:
Yes ! Just got the news from the garage yesterday folks that oil is not coming up the top engine why the oil pressure had come up again. Though we had changed the oil switch and the oil not coming up completely, the camshafts show some scratching. I do need to look for a new engine. All in all £1500 cost! I used my oil filter housing from my old engine but if we change this part there is no guarantee that the grinding noise wil disappear. Theyve told me its 50/50 chance.l Now I need a new engine £1k!

The bare block was a non starter that I bought £300. Never buy a block that comes with no warrantee!! The guy who sold me the engine said I have two engines and can make a new engine by getting the best out of both. Bad advise!

So need advice what engine I should go for as I have now options. Been three weeks and my car stuck in the garage. These guys are devastated that this is the case for my car... My car is a DSG AXX.. Please advise me on the engines that I can go for my car.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Low Oil Pressure Warning / Engine rattling/Car not starting/Battery slowly dying
Post by: GTi-Tecnix on January 13, 2018, 04:35:16 pm
Buy cheap buy twice without sounding like a critic  :signLOL:

New engine needed, no half baked parts or is your name josh from the tt forum who never listened and ended up scrapping the car after spending £2k  :stupid:  :popcornsoda:
No I'm not Josh I'm afraid. I learnt from my first mistake, not going there again. Once bitten twice shy 'an all that  :wink:
Title: Re: Low Oil Pressure Warning / Engine rattling/Car not starting/Battery slowly dying
Post by: r5gtt on January 14, 2018, 02:18:51 am
Buy cheap buy twice without sounding like a critic  :signLOL:

New engine needed, no half baked parts or is your name josh from the tt forum who never listened and ended up scrapping the car after spending £2k  :stupid:  :popcornsoda:
No I'm not Josh I'm afraid. I learnt from my first mistake, not going there again. Once bitten twice shy 'an all that  :wink:
lol get it sorted once and for all and maybe even change your mechanic  :doh:  :happy2:
Title: Re: Low Oil Pressure Warning / Engine rattling/Car not starting/Battery slowly dying
Post by: GTi-Tecnix on January 14, 2018, 05:26:06 pm
Buy cheap buy twice without sounding like a critic  :signLOL:

New engine needed, no half baked parts or is your name josh from the tt forum who never listened and ended up scrapping the car after spending £2k  :stupid:  :popcornsoda:
No I'm not Josh I'm afraid. I learnt from my first mistake, not going there again. Once bitten twice shy 'an all that  :wink:
lol get it sorted once and for all and maybe even change your mechanic  :doh:  :happy2:

Looking for a complete engine this time not just a block  :fighting:.. Will a BWA engine be accepted by my ECU? The wiring looms are all the same I'm guessing. Also is it a good idea to choose from other cars like a seat or Audi that have the same TFSI engine for my car? Need to be real careful what I buy this time. I know the BWA are stronger engines .. Do other cars have the same hfpr as the MK5 GTI?
Title: Re: Low Oil Pressure Warning / Engine rattling/Car not starting/Battery slowly dying
Post by: GTi-Tecnix on January 14, 2018, 05:30:03 pm
Buy cheap buy twice without sounding like a critic  :signLOL:

New engine needed, no half baked parts or is your name josh from the tt forum who never listened and ended up scrapping the car after spending £2k  :stupid:  :popcornsoda:
No I'm not Josh I'm afraid. I learnt from my first mistake, not going there again. Once bitten twice shy 'an all that  :wink:
lol get it sorted once and for all and maybe even change your mechanic  :doh:  :happy2:
it was almost there - new engine pick up was fine but that grinding noise had to be sorted and stripped again and where we realised an few days down the line another engine cease!.
Title: Re: Low Oil Pressure Warning / Engine rattling/Car not starting/Battery slowly dying
Post by: r5gtt on January 14, 2018, 11:04:51 pm
Buy cheap buy twice without sounding like a critic  :signLOL:

New engine needed, no half baked parts or is your name josh from the tt forum who never listened and ended up scrapping the car after spending £2k  :stupid:  :popcornsoda:
No I'm not Josh I'm afraid. I learnt from my first mistake, not going there again. Once bitten twice shy 'an all that  :wink:
lol get it sorted once and for all and maybe even change your mechanic  :doh:  :happy2:

Looking for a complete engine this time not just a block  :fighting:.. Will a BWA engine be accepted by my ECU? The wiring looms are all the same I'm guessing. Also is it a good idea to choose from other cars like a seat or Audi that have the same TFSI engine for my car? Need to be real careful what I buy this time. I know the BWA are stronger engines .. Do other cars have the same hfpr as the MK5 GTI?
Should be fine unless someone can tell me otherwise  :thinking:
Title: Re: Low Oil Pressure Warning / Engine rattling/Car not starting/Battery slowly dying
Post by: GTi-Tecnix on January 15, 2018, 03:14:23 am
I have no objection against my mechanic he actually did a great job  :congrats:

Its the shoddy engine I bought from an incessant geezer who fed me a load of bull, who promised me false hopes on this engine. This I DO object to. :scared: He told me to tell my mechanic go work with his bare naked engine block and I mean total bare; with my ceased engine. This was flogging a dead horse, but being my first engine change in mh driving hsitory, i wass none the wiser :thinking:

If you deciee to buy just the bare blocke then NEVER buy an engine block without their timings connected on either side of the engine  .

AND never buy an engine without beung offered at least a 30 day warranty!

Title: Re: Low Oil Pressure Warning / Engine rattling/Car not starting/Battery slowly dying
Post by: r5gtt on January 15, 2018, 10:06:29 am
Sadly there are people out there who scam others as I've been done over on Brake set ups theee times but that's me trusting too much and believing the bulls*** I was fed!.

BUT why the heck did you buy a bare block knowing your engines knackered and your mechanic should have more common sense than you as he's the one working on your motor so should have told you to buy a complete engine in the first place?  :signLOL:  :stupid: move from both parties there if you ask me  :doh:
Sorry has to be said  :P
Title: Re: Low Oil Pressure Warning / Engine rattling/Car not starting/Battery slowly dying
Post by: GTi-Tecnix on January 15, 2018, 02:21:30 pm
Sadly there are people out there who scam others as I've been done over on Brake set ups theee times but that's me trusting too much and believing the bulls*** I was fed!.

BUT why the heck did you buy a bare block knowing your engines knackered and your mechanic should have more common sense than you as he's the one working on your motor so should have told you to buy a complete engine in the first place?  :signLOL:  :stupid: move from both parties there if you ask me  :doh:
Sorry has to be said  :P
they did warn me and yes I was niave as you were! They said to me when I first bought the engine block that it was completely stupid of me to have purchased such engine. I was warned that it as much doubt as possibility that the engine may not work. And they've also advised me never to purchase an engine like that again!