MK5 Golf GTI

All Things Mk5 => How to Guides / Troubleshooting => Topic started by: GTI DAZ on December 29, 2017, 11:07:34 pm

Title: Fitting lowering springs
Post by: GTI DAZ on December 29, 2017, 11:07:34 pm
Need help, ordered some springs Apex -35mm kit and need a guide as I can’t fuse one, also do I need shorter arb links?
Title: Re: Fitting lowering springs
Post by: Rigsby on December 30, 2017, 12:13:47 am
You don’t need shorter drop links
Loads of you tube vids on fitting mk5 gti springs if you google it
Title: Re: Fitting lowering springs
Post by: GTI DAZ on December 30, 2017, 12:19:58 am
Thanks @Rigsby (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=11668) I’ll have a look, much appreciated 👍🏻
Title: Re: Fitting lowering springs
Post by: 4ndy on December 30, 2017, 10:13:39 am
 :popcornsoda:  I'm in the same situation  Eibach 30mm drop just arrived from Germany (3 days to arrive)  Just waiting for new top mounts and Bilstein shocks to arrive. Replacement bolts still to be ordered :happy2:
Title: Re: Fitting lowering springs
Post by: Rigsby on December 30, 2017, 10:20:01 am
I’ve got mine to do as well, can’t wait to get it lowered
Title: Re: Fitting lowering springs
Post by: pixel87 on December 30, 2017, 11:52:52 am
:popcornsoda:  I'm in the same situation  Eibach 30mm drop just arrived from Germany (3 days to arrive)  Just waiting for new top mounts and Bilstein shocks to arrive. Replacement bolts still to be ordered :happy2:
What Bilstein did u go for?

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Title: Re: Fitting lowering springs
Post by: 4ndy on December 30, 2017, 12:08:21 pm
:popcornsoda:  I'm in the same situation  Eibach 30mm drop just arrived from Germany (3 days to arrive)  Just waiting for new top mounts and Bilstein shocks to arrive. Replacement bolts still to be ordered :happy2:
What Bilstein did u go for?

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B6 :happy2:  £250.  EDIT  I'm keeping the ride height as close to OEM as poss  If lowering the B8 would be better as they are basically the B6 but shorter.  Mate has the B6 fitted and they look and drive better than my standard set up (which are on 80000 miles) Feels more sure footed around the corners
Title: Re: Fitting lowering springs
Post by: GTI DAZ on December 30, 2017, 03:51:42 pm
Would you recommended New too monts shocks and bolts then?
Title: Re: Fitting lowering springs
Post by: 4ndy on December 30, 2017, 05:00:48 pm
Would you recommended New too monts shocks and bolts then?
I'm fitting top mounts because of the mileage and speed humps :signLOL:  Ive seen the top mount rubber split on lesser mileage cars.  Perhaps buy replacements that you are able to return if you don't need them. Not expensive at £50/pr     Bolts are stretch bolts which should be replaced once removed  They are designed to stretch when  torqueing into place. 
Regarding the shocks. Ive read of plenty of people installing springs while still using the oem shocks I suppose it comes down to age/wear of shocks and the cost. Replacing shocks springs mounts and bolts will avoid having any issues with the front suspension for some time to come
Title: Re: Fitting lowering springs
Post by: GTI DAZ on December 31, 2017, 01:28:42 pm
Thanks @4ndy (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=11625) I don’t suppose you have a list of the bolts required ?
Title: Re: Fitting lowering springs
Post by: 4ndy on December 31, 2017, 03:31:45 pm
Not 100%   FRONT could be..but will have to check with my local TPS guys.    N10127706 or 07 (6 req) and N90954801
 sizes M8x26 and M12x80 plus nuts 2 req 
Title: Re: Fitting lowering springs
Post by: pixel87 on December 31, 2017, 04:04:12 pm
:popcornsoda:  I'm in the same situation  Eibach 30mm drop just arrived from Germany (3 days to arrive)  Just waiting for new top mounts and Bilstein shocks to arrive. Replacement bolts still to be ordered :happy2:
What Bilstein did u go for?

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B6 :happy2:  £250.  EDIT  I'm keeping the ride height as close to OEM as poss  If lowering the B8 would be better as they are basically the B6 but shorter.  Mate has the B6 fitted and they look and drive better than my standard set up (which are on 80000 miles) Feels more sure footed around the corners

Where did you get b6s from for that price??
Title: Re: Fitting lowering springs
Post by: 4ndy on December 31, 2017, 08:16:58 pm
:popcornsoda:  I'm in the same situation  Eibach 30mm drop just arrived from Germany (3 days to arrive)  Just waiting for new top mounts and Bilstein shocks to arrive. Replacement bolts still to be ordered :happy2:
What Bilstein did u go for?

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B6 :happy2:  £250.  EDIT  I'm keeping the ride height as close to OEM as poss  If lowering the B8 would be better as they are basically the B6 but shorter.  Mate has the B6 fitted and they look and drive better than my standard set up (which are on 80000 miles) Feels more sure footed around the corners

Where did you get b6s from for that price??
https://www.buycarparts.co.uk/vw/golf-v-1k1/20064  or https://www.autodoc.co.uk/  Check postage is free  If not ask for it :happy2: :happy2:
Title: Re: Fitting lowering springs
Post by: pixel87 on January 02, 2018, 06:34:45 pm

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Where did you get b6s from for that price??
[/quote]https://www.buycarparts.co.uk/vw/golf-v-1k1/20064  or https://www.autodoc.co.uk/  Check postage is free  If not ask for it :happy2: :happy2:
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Cheers bud. Seems the price for a set of b6 is like 400. Maybe you got them while they were having a deal! Unless prices are for a pair rather then individual??
Title: Re: Fitting lowering springs
Post by: pixel87 on January 02, 2018, 06:35:51 pm
:popcornsoda:  I'm in the same situation  Eibach 30mm drop just arrived from Germany (3 days to arrive)  Just waiting for new top mounts and Bilstein shocks to arrive. Replacement bolts still to be ordered :happy2:
What Bilstein did u go for?

Sent from my MI PAD 3 using Tapatalk
B6 :happy2:  £250.  EDIT  I'm keeping the ride height as close to OEM as poss  If lowering the B8 would be better as they are basically the B6 but shorter.  Mate has the B6 fitted and they look and drive better than my standard set up (which are on 80000 miles) Feels more sure footed around the corners

Where did you get b6s from for that price??
https://www.buycarparts.co.uk/vw/golf-v-1k1/20064  or https://www.autodoc.co.uk/  Check postage is free  If not ask for it :happy2: :happy2:



Cheers bud. Seems the price for a set of b6 is like 400. Maybe you got them while they were having a deal! Unless prices are for a pair rather then individual??
Title: Re: Fitting lowering springs
Post by: GTI DAZ on January 03, 2018, 08:05:26 am
Not 100%   FRONT could be..but will have to check with my local TPS guys.    N10127706 or 07 (6 req) and N90954801
 sizes M8x26 and M12x80 plus nuts 2 req

N10127706 and N10127707 come up with this

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Febi-Bilstein-BallJoint-Clamp-Screw-Set-49043/192042938532?epid=7003472798&hash=item2cb6a6b0a4:g:jAQAAOSwR2RaR965

do i need 6 of these? seems odd @4ndy (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=11625)
Title: Re: Fitting lowering springs
Post by: 4ndy on January 03, 2018, 12:32:17 pm
All you need are the screws x6 from that image. TPS just quoted me £12 for ALL 8 bolts
Title: Re: Fitting lowering springs
Post by: Rigsby on January 08, 2018, 01:10:55 pm
Did my rears yesterday , all went well as I was expecting the lower bolt to be seized.
Will be doing front in a few days as I didn’t have an 18mm spanner for the drop links.
 I will be doing the fronts without undoing driveshaft or wishbone, as that’s how I did my focus ST and suspension looks identical. Anyone else done it this way?
Title: Re: Fitting lowering springs
Post by: pudding on January 08, 2018, 02:51:10 pm
Good luck getting the strut out from under the arch without detaching anything.
Title: Re: Fitting lowering springs
Post by: MIJ_JAGGER on January 08, 2018, 03:01:42 pm
You have to undo the driveshaft bolt other wise you wont be able to manoeuvre the strut fella
Same goes for the ball joint nuts....
If you can do it then top job matey
Title: Re: Fitting lowering springs
Post by: Rigsby on January 08, 2018, 03:50:24 pm
If I have too remove driveshaft and ball joint then I will, but would rather not.
I’ll see how I get on :happy2:
Title: Re: Fitting lowering springs
Post by: Rigsby on January 21, 2018, 01:34:37 pm
All done,

Made a strut spreader tool
(https://thumb.ibb.co/dcFfDb/914_A4180_952_F_4_B09_9_C49_AFBAFD40_BA08.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dcFfDb)

Then found a method online for removing the shocks with 2x4 bit of wood.
Works a treat, I used a bit of 3x2 and bolted it through where the drop link goes
( stops the shock twisting)
So much easier

 (https://thumb.ibb.co/bPammw/36_EF8091_8_C13_4_E05_AA8_A_5107_DC8_D93_E7.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bPammw)

Title: Re: Fitting lowering springs
Post by: 4ndy on January 21, 2018, 03:14:22 pm
The drop links on mine were solid.  Had to grind the bolts off which is a bit tricky especially with the guard removed  :thinking: NOT recommended    Had to go shopping for a cutting disc with the links rattling around.  Interesting searching a route without speedbumps :stupid: