MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: jhook661 on January 14, 2018, 04:22:36 pm
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I'm having difficulties solving my issue with cruise control which I retro fitted yesterday on my 2005 golf gti, I installed the wire due to the year ,I've got the correct steering wheel control module and slip ring, highline clocks etc I correctly coded it but no green light nothing...
I went on vcds and went on to steering wheel then measuring blocks/ basic settings and selected cruise control it recognises the switch turning on/off and cancel but doesn't actually do anything whilst on the road? :thinking:
Any ideas gents
Maybe clutch switch or brake switch. There's no fault codes either
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Have you checked measuring blocks in VCDS (engine module), it should help pinpoint the issue.
Petrol egines often use Measuring Block group 066 to display CCS info. Refer to the charts below using line Field 2 and 4 data.
http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Checking_Cruise_Control_using_Measuring_Values (http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Checking_Cruise_Control_using_Measuring_Values)
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On mine I've got long coding on the engine and the box is ticked :thinking: @jason_rmh (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=4481)
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I'm having difficulties solving my issue with cruise control which I retro fitted yesterday on my 2005 golf gti, I installed the wire due to the year ,I've got the correct steering wheel control module and slip ring, highline clocks etc I correctly coded it but no green light nothing...
I went on vcds and went on to steering wheel then measuring blocks/ basic settings and selected cruise control it recognises the switch turning on/off and cancel but doesn't actually do anything whilst on the road? :thinking:
Any ideas gents
Maybe clutch switch or brake switch. There's no fault codes either
You also have coding to do in the engine module if I remember correctly and you make no mention of that?
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@doylebros (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=6153) In the engine module it has long coding and it’s got a box to tick whether it’s got cruise control or not its been ticked ..... so I have no idea why it’s not working
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Follow the instructions Jason linked you to as just ticking the box won't work
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On newer mk5 golfs it was a tick box on the engine module so that bit is ok. Have you driven around 25mph and then tried flicking the up rocker button with cruise switch in on position?
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On newer mk5 golfs it was a tick box on the engine module so that bit is ok. Have you driven around 25mph and then tried flicking the up rocker button with cruise switch in on position?
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@RetroRaz (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=6494) I've tried different things and it's still not there :thinking:
I've double checked everything the wire I installed recoded it two or threes times it's recognises the stalk is there via the basic settings in the steering wheel module seeing the rocker switch change to on and off then cancel but doesn't work on the road
Faulty control module ?
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Apologies if you have already looked at this but certain model years don't have an in-cluster 'cruise control on' light and some do. Have you tried physically setting cruise when driving not just turning it on using the flick switch on the top of the stalk?
For comparison - two Mk5 with factory cruise - mine an 05 GTI DSG has the 'cruise control on' indication light, my Dad's 09 R32 DSG does not have an indication light. Both systems work fine when setting on the road.
Like I say, you may have covered this off but wanted to flag just in case...
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Post up your coding before and after the cruise install and someone may notice an error.
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When you turn on does the green cruise control light come on on the dash? Once thats on click the set- the end of the stalk to set the speed you're currently at.
When I first installed mine I didn't think it was working until I discovered that you have to press the set- button
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@neilw (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=18518) no green light comes on and when you say the set button do you hold it ?
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If you've got a standard GTI steering wheel shouldn't the coding value for the wheel be (1) not (0).
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@doylebros (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=6153) it originally was 0 ...... so all I've done is change the 1 to 4 to on board computer with cruise control
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If you've got a standard GTI steering wheel shouldn't the coding value for the wheel be (1) not (0).
was jut going to point that out as well. lol Try changing coding to 0001042
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Wasn't there something about logging in witha code 41*** and then set the CC :thinking: I'm sure @RetroRaz (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=6494) helped me out here
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Still haven't solved this guys :sad1:
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WHen the green light is on you need to be at a constant speed with foot on the accelerator to enable cruise which might be the issue of light comes on
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The green light doesn't come on/engage that's the problem
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Sounds like a dodgy stalk :thinking:
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I'm guessing you have the wrong revision cruise control stalk.
You say in you original post that you have added the wire. I assume you mean the wire into the engine bay.
You also say in your original post that you have the correct steering wheel control module and slip ring. Are these original or have you retrofitted a mk6 wheel and the associated parts?
If original, for your year car, your cruise control stalk should have 8 pins. If you've retrofitted to mk6 wheel along with a CH revision steering wheel control module then your cruise control stalk should be a 'G' revision with only 7 pins. Revision 'G' and older revision stalks both have 8 wires but on the revision 'G' the 2 yellow wires join together and go to only 1 pin.
Even if you have bought a revision ’G', check to make sure both yellow wires are joined together and only going to the 1 pin.
When I retrofitted my mk6 wheel the cruise control stalk I bought was supposed to be a revision 'G' but the wires were the same as my old stalk. I was having the same problems as you.
I actually joined the 2 yellow wires in my original stalk (from memory it's the outside pin that you leave vacant) and reinstalled that. Problem solved.
Hope that is your issue too.
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@The Red Warrior (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=13002) thanks for that
I've got a rev G cruise stalk
Rev F steering wheel control module (midline)
Rev C slip ring
Is there any links to change the cables around etc ..
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@The Red Warrior (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=13002) thanks for that
I've got a rev G cruise stalk
Rev F steering wheel control module (midline)
Rev C slip ring
Is there any links to change the cables around etc ..
@jhook661 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=11500)
A search turned up my own thread on Ross tech. Here's the link:
http://forums.ross-tech.com/showthread.php?7272-Mk6-golf-steering-wheel-into-mk5-issues
In that thread you'll see a photo that shows the two yellow wires modified to be joined together.
My memory is quite what I thought as it shows there are 10 wires not 8 as I stated earlier.
The yellow wires in revision A and B stalks go to pins 5 and 10.
In revision G you have both wires going to pin 10 and pin 5 is left vacant.
So basically you have to pull out the yellow wire in pin 5, (or just cut it near the end) cut off some of the insulation on the yellow wire going to pin 10 and then solder the end onto the exposed section (or twist and tape if you want to easily try it first).
I found some other links with photos but they weren't showing due to photobucket's antics. I realise there are work arounds to show them but I've never used them. Maybe you have.
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@The Red Warrior (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=13002) any ideas ? 5&6 are vacant but that's the same as the one in the photo now I'm confused ...
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I suspect you need wires in pins 5 & 10 as you say you are using an F revision steering wheel control module.
Of course this makes things more difficult as you will have to attach a new plug to the correct wire after uncoupling it from the existing plug that it’s attached to.
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I suspect you need wires in pins 5 & 10 as you say you are using an F revision steering wheel control module.
Of course this makes things more difficult as you will have to attach a new plug to the correct wire after uncoupling it from the existing plug that it’s attached to.
Has yours got a cable In no.5 ? As you said on your previous post no.5 is vacant?
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Not anymore.
It did have, but I removed it to splice into the other yellow wire going into pin 10 when doing my steering wheel conversion.
I’ve even got a spare cruise control stalk with wires going into pins 5 & 10 that you can have for free. It’s brand new. I never used it, as I chose to keep my original one and join the wires.
Only problem is you would have to pay for postage and I’m in New Zealand.
I’m sure you’ll be able to get a plug locally from a wrecker or just the pin from eBay.