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Title: Calipers - S3 8v Will they fit?
Post by: neilw on March 14, 2018, 10:06:33 pm
Will a 2014 8v Audi s3 caliper fit a mk5? I guess they are the same as Golf R/PP calipers?
Title: Re: Calipers - S3 8v Will they fit?
Post by: Shoduchi on March 14, 2018, 10:44:11 pm
Yes, there's a good topic in the forum about them.
Title: Re: Calipers - S3 8v Will they fit?
Post by: neilw on March 14, 2018, 11:03:06 pm
Thanks, yeh literally just found this post!

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=112724.0

Found a set on ebay for a good price so bought them. I'll repaint them in red and put them on the car once my current pads/disks are tired

Title: Re: Calipers - S3 8v Will they fit?
Post by: AJP on March 15, 2018, 12:32:29 am
Here's the big thread. Loads of info in here:

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=108106.0
Title: Re: Calipers - S3 8v Will they fit?
Post by: neilw on March 15, 2018, 10:22:00 am
Cheers.

Yeh read through that while tread. Looks good.

Picked up the calipers for £120.
Title: Re: Calipers - S3 8v Will they fit?
Post by: pudding on March 15, 2018, 01:50:30 pm
Did they come with carriers?
Title: Re: Calipers - S3 8v Will they fit?
Post by: Timmsy21 on March 15, 2018, 01:53:32 pm
How the hell did you get them for £120!!
Title: Re: Calipers - S3 8v Will they fit?
Post by: neilw on March 15, 2018, 04:22:19 pm
Yup Carriers are there.

Lucky eBay find when I was browsing last night.

Here is another set, come with disks for a bit more

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vw-Golf-R-Mk7-Front-Brake-Set-Up-calipers-Disc-Pads-And-Carriers-2016/162929316220?hash=item25ef58117c:g:KcYAAOSw5nxai00d
Title: Re: Calipers - S3 8v Will they fit?
Post by: pudding on March 15, 2018, 06:06:43 pm
Great price  :happy2:

The carriers cost more than the calipers (from VW) so good job they were included!

The 'GTI' emblem kits are £26 per side, in case you go that way.
Title: Re: Calipers - S3 8v Will they fit?
Post by: Rob1 on March 15, 2018, 07:59:56 pm
Yup Carriers are there.

Lucky eBay find when I was browsing last night.

Here is another set, come with disks for a bit more

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vw-Golf-R-Mk7-Front-Brake-Set-Up-calipers-Disc-Pads-And-Carriers-2016/162929316220?hash=item25ef58117c:g:KcYAAOSw5nxai00d

I’ve been watching those for a while but have been put off as they are black, how easy or hard is it to paint the calipers red
Title: Re: Calipers - S3 8v Will they fit?
Post by: pudding on March 15, 2018, 08:38:13 pm
The proper method is to sand blast them back to bare metal and either powder coat them, or paint them with brake caliper enamel.

The cheaper method is to just clean them up and paint over the top with enamel!

Just depends how picky you are with the finish.  They get caked in road crap and brake dust anyway, so not worth investing a ton of effort into imo.
Title: Re: Calipers - S3 8v Will they fit?
Post by: neilw on March 15, 2018, 08:45:10 pm
I painted my old Z4 calipers with Foliatec paint. It goes on really nicey. That was onto bare metal though.

With these i'll probably sand back the black paint abit then use the Foliatec paint over the top
Title: Re: Calipers - S3 8v Will they fit?
Post by: AJP on March 15, 2018, 08:46:51 pm
If you got them for as little as £120 it's maybe worth paying a bit extra to get them refurbished with new seals etc.

I got some PP calipers off ebay for a decent price (see main thread) but I've had problems for a while and I'm pretty sure one of the pistons is sticking. Point is, I've spent dead money on fitting the calipers, knackering discs, and now I'm replacing the lot with brand new calipers pads and discs. The calipers coming off will of course be getting a full rebuild before I move them on.

I just think for a little extra cash you can have the peace of mind that you're not going to end up with costly issues. I risked it, and lost out. Lesson learnt!
Title: Re: Calipers - S3 8v Will they fit?
Post by: Rob1 on March 15, 2018, 08:50:31 pm
Cheers guys I’ll look into that.
On another note do you guys know if the mk7r discs are a straight swap for the mk5?
Title: Re: Calipers - S3 8v Will they fit?
Post by: Shoduchi on March 15, 2018, 08:57:54 pm
Cheers guys I’ll look into that.
On another note do you guys know if the mk7r discs are a straight swap for the mk5?
With the bigger calipers from the R32/6R/S3/Cupra, yes. With factory fitted calipers on a GTI, no.
Title: Re: Calipers - S3 8v Will they fit?
Post by: Rob1 on March 15, 2018, 09:00:15 pm
If you got them for as little as £120 it's maybe worth paying a bit extra to get them refurbished with new seals etc.

I got some PP calipers off ebay for a decent price (see main thread) but I've had problems for a while and I'm pretty sure one of the pistons is sticking. Point is, I've spent dead money on fitting the calipers, knackering discs, and now I'm replacing the lot with brand new calipers pads and discs. The calipers coming off will of course be getting a full rebuild before I move them on.

I just think for a little extra cash you can have the peace of mind that you're not going to end up with costly issues. I risked it, and lost out. Lesson learnt!

Any idea what you might sell the PP calipers sell for?
Title: Re: Calipers - S3 8v Will they fit?
Post by: AJP on March 15, 2018, 09:02:22 pm
If you got them for as little as £120 it's maybe worth paying a bit extra to get them refurbished with new seals etc.

I got some PP calipers off ebay for a decent price (see main thread) but I've had problems for a while and I'm pretty sure one of the pistons is sticking. Point is, I've spent dead money on fitting the calipers, knackering discs, and now I'm replacing the lot with brand new calipers pads and discs. The calipers coming off will of course be getting a full rebuild before I move them on.

I just think for a little extra cash you can have the peace of mind that you're not going to end up with costly issues. I risked it, and lost out. Lesson learnt!

Any idea what you might sell the PP calipers sell for?
No idea yet but depending on the cost of refurb maybe 250-300. I'll make sure they're like new.
Title: Re: Calipers - S3 8v Will they fit?
Post by: Rob1 on March 15, 2018, 09:04:44 pm
Cheers guys I’ll look into that.
On another note do you guys know if the mk7r discs are a straight swap for the mk5?
With the bigger calipers from the R32/6R/S3/Cupra, yes. With factory fitted calipers on a GTI, no.
Thanks Shoduchi, what was would the following be a straight swap on my mk5 or would I need anything else?
Title: Re: Calipers - S3 8v Will they fit?
Post by: neilw on March 16, 2018, 09:39:47 am
If you got them for as little as £120 it's maybe worth paying a bit extra to get them refurbished with new seals etc.

I got some PP calipers off ebay for a decent price (see main thread) but I've had problems for a while and I'm pretty sure one of the pistons is sticking. Point is, I've spent dead money on fitting the calipers, knackering discs, and now I'm replacing the lot with brand new calipers pads and discs. The calipers coming off will of course be getting a full rebuild before I move them on.

I just think for a little extra cash you can have the peace of mind that you're not going to end up with costly issues. I risked it, and lost out. Lesson learnt!

Thanks, good, advice. I'm going to be in no rush to put them on the car. My current disks and pads have loads of life left in then. I probably put them to one side until the time comes to r-tech the car.
Title: Re: Calipers - S3 8v Will they fit?
Post by: neilw on March 16, 2018, 09:42:19 am
Cheers guys I’ll look into that.
On another note do you guys know if the mk7r discs are a straight swap for the mk5?
With the bigger calipers from the R32/6R/S3/Cupra, yes. With factory fitted calipers on a GTI, no.
Thanks Shoduchi, what was would the following be a straight swap on my mk5 or would I need anything else?

I think you'll just need bigger dust shields (Or whatever they call them)

The Clubsport S disks will go on if you don't mind dropping £300 on them
Title: Re: Calipers - S3 8v Will they fit?
Post by: Rob1 on March 16, 2018, 10:48:38 am
Cheers guys I’ll look into that.
On another note do you guys know if the mk7r discs are a straight swap for the mk5?
With the bigger calipers from the R32/6R/S3/Cupra, yes. With factory fitted calipers on a GTI, no.
Thanks Shoduchi, what was would the following be a straight swap on my mk5 or would I need anything else?

I think you'll just need bigger dust shields (Or whatever they call them)

The Clubsport S disks will go on if you don't mind dropping £300 on them
Cheers


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Title: Re: Calipers - S3 8v Will they fit?
Post by: Shoduchi on March 16, 2018, 10:58:44 am
Cheers guys I’ll look into that.
On another note do you guys know if the mk7r discs are a straight swap for the mk5?
With the bigger calipers from the R32/6R/S3/Cupra, yes. With factory fitted calipers on a GTI, no.
Thanks Shoduchi, what was would the following be a straight swap on my mk5 or would I need anything else?

I think you'll just need bigger dust shields (Or whatever they call them)

The Clubsport S disks will go on if you don't mind dropping £300 on them

You don't need bigger dust shields. It's fine with the factory fitted ones. I'm using 350 mm discs with factory dust shields.

But if you really want to get bigger dust shields you can fit the dust shields from the R32/6R/S3 8P/Cupra 1P.
Title: Re: Calipers - S3 8v Will they fit?
Post by: neilw on March 16, 2018, 02:30:30 pm
Cheers guys I’ll look into that.
On another note do you guys know if the mk7r discs are a straight swap for the mk5?
With the bigger calipers from the R32/6R/S3/Cupra, yes. With factory fitted calipers on a GTI, no.
Thanks Shoduchi, what was would the following be a straight swap on my mk5 or would I need anything else?

I think you'll just need bigger dust shields (Or whatever they call them)

The Clubsport S disks will go on if you don't mind dropping £300 on them

You don't need bigger dust shields. It's fine with the factory fitted ones. I'm using 350 mm discs with factory dust shields.

But if you really want to get bigger dust shields you can fit the dust shields from the R32/6R/S3 8P/Cupra 1P.

Thanks. That's good to know
Title: Re: Calipers - S3 8v Will they fit?
Post by: Rob1 on March 16, 2018, 06:16:13 pm
Cheers Shoduchi your a wisdom of knowledge 👍
Title: Re: Calipers - S3 8v Will they fit?
Post by: Mk5. EWC on March 16, 2018, 09:58:26 pm
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F232548900802

Would these be suitable for my S3 calipers?
Title: Re: Calipers - S3 8v Will they fit?
Post by: MIJ_JAGGER on March 16, 2018, 11:26:00 pm
No
Title: Re: Calipers - S3 8v Will they fit?
Post by: neilw on March 17, 2018, 12:16:15 pm
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F232548900802

Would these be suitable for my S3 calipers?

Needs 340mm disks not 312
Title: Re: Calipers - S3 8v Will they fit?
Post by: Mk5. EWC on March 18, 2018, 09:39:32 pm
https://www.mtecbrakes.com/brake-discs/audi/s3-2013/s3-2-0-quattro-05-13.html


Vented Diameter: 340.0 Thickness: 30.0 Minimum Thickness: 27.0 Height: 50.0 Bore Diameter: 65.0 Studs: 5


These are 340mm for an S3 does this look like the correct fitment? Want to get these on before my service as brake fluid is due! What brake fluid is recommended for these too.
Title: Re: Calipers - S3 8v Will they fit?
Post by: pudding on March 19, 2018, 03:56:56 pm
Yep.

Anything DOT4 or DOT5.1 with a decent boiling point will do.

I recommend brake assembly lube with sliding caliper brakes as well.  The proper ceramic stuff, not copper grease.
Title: Re: Calipers - S3 8v Will they fit?
Post by: neilw on March 20, 2018, 10:05:36 pm
Arrived today, they look good and massive....

One is missing the rubber boots on the slider but that's easily sorted.

(https://thumb.ibb.co/j2KufH/20180320_183929.jpg) (https://ibb.co/j2KufH)
Title: Re: Calipers - S3 8v Will they fit?
Post by: MIJ_JAGGER on March 21, 2018, 12:24:57 pm
Now you need a pair of China’s finest
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180321/beca7c5aa6ff4711b61dd2fa8a5be70d.jpg)
Title: Re: Calipers - S3 8v Will they fit?
Post by: pudding on March 21, 2018, 03:02:18 pm
Well done Dickass for L&R discs, unlike VW's Clubsport S discs!

Title: Re: Calipers - S3 8v Will they fit?
Post by: Mk5. EWC on April 05, 2018, 10:25:21 pm
https://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/Audi_S3_2.0_2013/p/car-parts/regular-service/car-service-parts/brake-pads/?101444228&1&ef5012db178d447ca4a7ecb9023a62d9ab093df7&000036

Anyone know if these pads fit? They are from 2013 S3 the details say they fit 340mm discs as well.
Title: Re: Calipers - S3 8v Will they fit?
Post by: Rob1 on April 06, 2018, 09:13:59 pm
https://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/Audi_S3_2.0_2013/p/car-parts/regular-service/car-service-parts/brake-pads/?101444228&1&ef5012db178d447ca4a7ecb9023a62d9ab093df7&000036

Anyone know if these pads fit? They are from 2013 S3 the details say they fit 340mm discs as well.

.

or possibly these from mintex

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F253444201658
Title: Re: Calipers - S3 8v Will they fit?
Post by: Mk5. EWC on April 07, 2018, 02:57:26 pm
They needed the registration even though it says the correct pads in the listing. They said I couldn't return them if they sent the wrong ones... Very helpful.
Title: Re: Calipers - S3 8v Will they fit?
Post by: Rob1 on April 07, 2018, 05:26:51 pm
They needed the registration even though it says the correct pads in the listing. They said I couldn't return them if they sent the wrong ones... Very helpful.

Euro car parts offer a 365 day returns policy