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Title: Brake Fluid Service at VW
Post by: MIJ_JAGGER on April 12, 2018, 09:03:31 pm
Motors going in for a DSG service soon, figured I’d get the brake fluid changed too

Question, as I have the PP brake setup on mine, will they still do it? Anyone have theirs done with upgraded brakes without any issues at VW?

Ta
Title: Re: Brake Fluid Service at VW
Post by: StephenED30 on April 13, 2018, 02:10:29 pm
I had the R32 caliper all round on my Edition 30 and was always serviced at main dealer without any issues. Don’t know if they ever cycled the ABS pump but what ever calipers are fitted it’s just undo the bleed nipples and flush the old fluid through.   :happy2:
Title: Re: Brake Fluid Service at VW
Post by: pudding on April 13, 2018, 03:08:10 pm
They won't cycle the ABS unless you tell them to.   On my last brake service I told them to do that and also the clutch.   Black nasty sh*t came out of both apparently.
Title: Re: Brake Fluid Service at VW
Post by: Rob1 on April 14, 2018, 06:02:41 am
Sorry guys what do you mean by cycle I.e what is it


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Title: Re: Brake Fluid Service at VW
Post by: pudding on April 14, 2018, 09:46:41 am
There’s a test program in their diagnostics machine which runs the ABS pump whilst they flush it. It agitates the pistons to shift all the gunk.

Or you can find a quiet road and activate the ABS several times before taking it in  :happy2:
Title: Re: Brake Fluid Service at VW
Post by: Rob1 on April 14, 2018, 12:41:38 pm
There’s a test program in their diagnostics machine which runs the ABS pump whilst they flush it. It agitates the pistons to shift all the gunk.

Or you can find a quiet road and activate the ABS several times before taking it in  :happy2:
Thanks Pudding, pardon my ignorance but is the brake fluid change the same as/include bleeding the brakes?

Only asking as I’m hoping to upgrade soon to MK7 calipers

Thanks


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Title: Re: Brake Fluid Service at VW
Post by: lukemk5gti on April 16, 2018, 03:16:30 pm
They won't cycle the ABS unless you tell them to.   On my last brake service I told them to do that and also the clutch.   Black nasty sh*t came out of both apparently.

After reading a thread on this before saying exactly that I asked Volkswagen and they said as standard they have to cycle the ABS.

He could have just been spoofing to give me peace of mind.

Anyway, they did it for me "apparently". I had no evidence
Title: Re: Brake Fluid Service at VW
Post by: colesey on April 16, 2018, 03:24:01 pm
My local VW dealer was supposed to change plugs / pollen filter / fuel filter as part of fixed service price but didn’t.
Title: Brake Fluid Service at VW
Post by: MIJ_JAGGER on April 16, 2018, 04:13:32 pm
Ta for the replies
I’ll update the thread accordingly after Thursday when it’s all done (whether or not they service the brake fluid because of the non stock brakes)

Yes, read about the ABS cycle on an 8 year old thread a while back

Ps. Prices gone up for “fixed price servicing”
Dsg now £199 from £184 and brake fluid £69 from £64
Title: Re: Brake Fluid Service at VW
Post by: loop on April 16, 2018, 06:21:16 pm
My local VW dealer was supposed to change plugs / pollen filter / fuel filter as part of fixed service price but didn’t.
How do you know, did you check all the parts? Did they give you a refund?


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Title: Re: Brake Fluid Service at VW
Post by: colesey on April 16, 2018, 07:06:49 pm
My local VW dealer was supposed to change plugs / pollen filter / fuel filter as part of fixed service price but didn’t.
How do you know, did you check all the parts? Did they give you a refund?


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I’ve owned my car since new and only does @3k miles pa, so it was pretty obvious nothing had previously been changed when it came out of warranty and started being serviced by a trusted independent.
Title: Re: Brake Fluid Service at VW
Post by: coolhandluke on April 16, 2018, 07:08:43 pm
Ta for the replies
I’ll update the thread accordingly after Thursday when it’s all done (whether or not they service the brake fluid because of the non stock brakes)

Yes, read about the ABS cycle on an 8 year old thread a while back

Ps. Prices gone up for “fixed price servicing”
Dsg now £199 from £184 and brake fluid £69 from £64

£69 ?? Local dealer is quoting £39 🤔
Title: Re: Brake Fluid Service at VW
Post by: MIJ_JAGGER on April 19, 2018, 04:52:59 pm
Bit of an update:
They’ll need the car for one more day, they couldn’t get it up on the ramp...guessing because the cars lowered but they said apparently the sideskirts (OEM) are too big
Title: Re: Brake Fluid Service at VW
Post by: Shoy1980 on April 19, 2018, 05:00:43 pm
OEM sideskirts are too big haha
Title: Re: Brake Fluid Service at VW
Post by: MIJ_JAGGER on April 19, 2018, 05:26:29 pm
That was my reaction too lol
Worst part is they’ve actually taken the skirts off to get it on there
Wtf indeed
Title: Re: Brake Fluid Service at VW
Post by: pudding on April 19, 2018, 06:02:17 pm
They won't cycle the ABS unless you tell them to.   On my last brake service I told them to do that and also the clutch.   Black nasty sh*t came out of both apparently.

After reading a thread on this before saying exactly that I asked Volkswagen and they said as standard they have to cycle the ABS.

He could have just been spoofing to give me peace of mind.

Anyway, they did it for me "apparently". I had no evidence

Quite right.  It was mandatory to do that on my old Corrado VR6 as well, so I can't see that changing on the newer cars tbh since the technology is the same.   Some dealers are just lazy or ignorant.  Cutting corners R us.

Brake fluid absorbs water, and that water tends to corrode some parts of the hydraulic circuit that don't see much action - i.e the pump pistons.  People who flush it out every 2 years are far less likely to experience problems though.
Title: Re: Brake Fluid Service at VW
Post by: MIJ_JAGGER on April 20, 2018, 10:59:49 am
Ps Cycling the ABS is standard procedure and all part of the brake fluid service I’ve been told by the tech today
Good to know tech knows about it already
Title: Re: Brake Fluid Service at VW
Post by: pudding on April 20, 2018, 11:02:25 am
Hurrah to someone clued up  :happy2: