MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: djhorace on February 09, 2010, 11:03:06 pm
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Long story short, I will be driving to Sheffied in the near future to have the following done to the Cupra in the hope thats it for modifications, and to try and rid my car of the jingling noise and flat spot at 5200rpm;
Fit new gearbox with Wavetrac Diff
Fit New Clutch
Fit Uprated Engine Mounts
Fit WALK
Fit F+R sway bars
Fit modified fuel return
I have the gearbox with diff, but I will need procure the clutch, possible single mass flywheel (if there is one that does not chatter like mad).
Regarding Anti Roll Bars, I have to be honest and say I am still not convinced by these or how they should be set up based on some saying to leave it, some saying rear only, some saying front and rear etc. I may leave these out.
Finally, I have read several threads regarding engine mounts, and am aware of the variations available including BSH, VWR, THS, VF etc. I dont want the inside of the car vibrating like a pnuematic drill, and am therefore trying to remember which ones I need to do and which one need not be done to avoid the vibrations.
Thanks in advance
Horace
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dont leave out the ARBs they are the best handling mod IMO. My setup is the result of 3 consequtive weekends at the ring trying differnt setups. not tried just the raer on its own though.
what is this modified fuel return??
you just need the lower engine mount if you dont want vibrations. i tried TFSI_mikes cupra which has the VWR street one in and it doesnt vibrate any more than mine with the powerflex insert. ive also driven the VWR GTI and that had the full set which vibrated the whole cabin. sounded mint, but not sure if i could deal with it on a long journey
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i have the bsh mounts (not fitted yet ) but stokebollon has hi fitted might be worth a search
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i have the bsh mounts (not fitted yet ) but stokebollon has hi fitted might be worth a search
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=9477.0
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What about clutch kits?
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the fat plaster has a single mass flywheel and he was worried about the noise at first but he said its not bad at all. Think hes running sachs. Wayne had trouble getting past his stage 1 jabba mapped car with his stage 2 plus one
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Are you getting clutch slip?
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No clutch slip at all, so my flywheel should be ok. Car will turn to 30000 miles this morning too, and a lot of those miles have been at way over 300bhp.
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Have you had the cam lobe follower changed yet?
The fuel pump has to come off with other bits like the DV etc to get to the fuel return valve. £20 for the follower and zero extra hours labour makes it a good time to do if you need to. :happy2:
I have the modified return valve fitted to mine. I've just done some logs and the results are very promising :innocent:
I'm assuming you'll be going to Statllers then DJ?
I'm only 4 miles away, so if you want to take a spin in mine and see what the VF engine mounts, diff and ARB's do, then just drop me a PM and if I'm not working I'll pop down.
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Yeah, I am on my 3rd cam lobe follower now, and yep, the work will be done at Statlers within a month.
When I arrive there, I guess it wont be long before I know that the mounts, diff and ARB's will feel like, but it would be good to meet up for sure. :happy2:
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Yeah, I caught up with Blade last time he was at Statllers too. Seems like their popularity is growing bit by bit. :smiley:
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dont leave out the ARBs they are the best handling mod IMO. My setup is the result of 3 consequtive weekends at the ring trying differnt setups. not tried just the raer on its own though.
what is this modified fuel return??
you just need the lower engine mount if you dont want vibrations. i tried TFSI_mikes cupra which has the VWR street one in and it doesnt vibrate any more than mine with the powerflex insert. ive also driven the VWR GTI and that had the full set which vibrated the whole cabin. sounded mint, but not sure if i could deal with it on a long journey
@ Vrs Sy
Sorry a bit off topic here. I am looking a just the lower engine mount to reduce wheel hop and preserve my milltek. So its good to here that the noise of the VWR is the same as the powerflex, but does the VWR item do a better job at preventing wheel hop as its a lot more money to pay than the Powerflex??
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Yeah, I caught up with Blade last time he was at Statllers too. Seems like their popularity is growing bit by bit. :smiley:
The fact I will be travelling several hundred miles to this garage says a bit for sure :smiley:
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I am looking a just the lower engine mount to reduce wheel hop and preserve my milltek. So its good to here that the noise of the VWR is the same as the powerflex, but does the VWR item do a better job at preventing wheel hop as its a lot more money to pay than the Powerflex??
....The VWR Lower Mount does a great job of delivering the power down - Better than just a 3-prong poly insert (which I had before).
Info here : - http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=5082.msg77924#msg77924
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dont leave out the ARBs they are the best handling mod IMO. My setup is the result of 3 consequtive weekends at the ring trying differnt setups. not tried just the raer on its own though.
what is this modified fuel return??
you just need the lower engine mount if you dont want vibrations. i tried TFSI_mikes cupra which has the VWR street one in and it doesnt vibrate any more than mine with the powerflex insert. ive also driven the VWR GTI and that had the full set which vibrated the whole cabin. sounded mint, but not sure if i could deal with it on a long journey
@ Vrs Sy
Sorry a bit off topic here. I am looking a just the lower engine mount to reduce wheel hop and preserve my milltek. So its good to here that the noise of the VWR is the same as the powerflex, but does the VWR item do a better job at preventing wheel hop as its a lot more money to pay than the Powerflex??
when i last drove mikes cupra the road was absolutely soaked and traction was quite a bit of an isesue, but there was no wheel hop at all. My car would have been going nuts wheel hop wise
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wayne has the VF engineering lower mount and he always beats me off the line because of it.
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I am looking a just the lower engine mount to reduce wheel hop and preserve my milltek. So its good to here that the noise of the VWR is the same as the powerflex, but does the VWR item do a better job at preventing wheel hop as its a lot more money to pay than the Powerflex??
....The VWR Lower Mount does a great job of delivering the power down - Better than just a 3-prong poly insert (which I had before).
Info here : - http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=5082.msg77924#msg77924
How many miles did you have the powerflex bush in for as I had one in my Mk 2 Leon and thought it was great, although it was only in there for less than 5k miles, and my fear was that it looked a bit flimsy to cope with 300 or so horses pulling at it.
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@ Sy quite surpirsed you would be getting mad wheel hop, I'd imagine the mount would have done quite a few miles and worn out??
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How many miles did you have the powerflex bush in for as I had one in my Mk 2 Leon and thought it was great, although it was only in there for less than 5k miles, and my fear was that it looked a bit flimsy to cope with 300 or so horses pulling at it.
....Without delving into loads of paperwork and doing mathematics, I reckon something over 30k miles. Sorry if this is off topic but here's a pic of my Neuspeed Torque Arm Insert mashed when it was taken out : -
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FRedRobin_05%2FMods%2FRoadMounts-1.jpg&hash=26eabae81484ed427023d83b3bbe2cc2b6c0f7be)
^ The upper left item is the VWR 'Fast Road' Lower Engine Mount. Their 'Race' one which Mat has is solid.
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@ Sy quite surpirsed you would be getting mad wheel hop, I'd imagine the mount would have done quite a few miles and worn out??
no its still fine. only been in for around 4k. i was merely pointing out that i thought the insert didnt really do much in comparison to the vwr lower mount tbh. but it is only cheap.
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Robin, Whats the third lower left mount in the photo then??
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@ Sy quite surpirsed you would be getting mad wheel hop, I'd imagine the mount would have done quite a few miles and worn out??
no its still fine. only been in for around 4k. i was merely pointing out that i thought the insert didnt really do much in comparison to the vwr lower mount tbh. but it is only cheap.
Did you not see any wheel hop reduction at all with the powerflex?
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Robin, Whats the third lower left mount in the photo then??
its the top half of the neuspeed insert base thingy. I didnt notice anything from the powerflex insert either, now running with solid vwr mount but gonna swap for fast road one when clutch gets done, the Seat plastic fantastic interior is taking a beating :signLOL:.
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DJ Apologies for hijacking your thread mate, if I have any more q's after this I'll start my own thread.
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Are the bottom mount inserts any good? They were advised by miltek so it wouldn't break their exhausts :popcornsoda:
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Robin, Whats the third lower left mount in the photo then??
its the top half of the neuspeed insert base thingy. I didnt notice anything from the powerflex insert either, now running with solid vwr mount but gonna swap for fast road one when clutch gets done, the Seat plastic fantastic interior is taking a beating :signLOL:.
:signLOL: thats funny
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Are the bottom mount inserts any good? They were advised by miltek so it wouldn't break their exhausts :popcornsoda:
....Milltek now include a free torque arm insert with their systems to help reduce the chances of breakages. A remapped car with oem engine mounts will shove more stresses through there AFAIK.
One of my mounts broke once upon a time (reported a while ago when it happened :wink:) : -
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fb308%2FRedRobin_05%2FBrokenExhaustMount.jpg&hash=ea8731f1905b984cf3a69183863d9d500f3c3686)