MK5 Golf GTI

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Title: Couple of questions
Post by: TOONARMY on February 20, 2010, 10:23:07 pm
Good evening.

Well today i put down a deposit on a 06 black mk5 gti. Just a couple of questions though. The exhaust pipe are a bit sooty etc, now can i paint these black, if so what would i use. Or could i get chrome trims to go over them? Also is there any adjustment in the tailgate, i only ask because the n/s/r inner lamp unit doesnt quite line up with the n/s/r outer light unit by a couple of mm, its not a big issue at all, but just wanted to know if this could be adjusted. Finally all going well i pick up the car saturday, im intrested in an ed 30 front splitter. Does anyone know how much i would be looking at?

toon
Title: Re: Couple of questions
Post by: gti turbo on February 20, 2010, 10:29:48 pm
Mine also had sooty tail pipes,but after a couple hours cleaning a polishing with autosol i got them up pretty shiney.
Dont think you can cover them with a exhaust trim and as for painting them black tbh i wouldnt.
Are you anywhere near south yorkshire?
Title: Re: Couple of questions
Post by: nc35 on February 20, 2010, 10:32:22 pm
With the tail lights being out of line are you sure it hasn't had any rear damage?
Title: Re: Couple of questions
Post by: TOONARMY on February 20, 2010, 10:35:33 pm
I checked over the car and could find no signs of any damaged to the rear at all.  No signs of rear floor pan damage etc. No mate, im from the bristol area :happy2: Here is a link to the car http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/retailers/00464/used-cars. If yo go to page 4 and select the black mkv golf gti and have a look at the pic of the rear of the car. The light units in question are the n/s/r ones. Could someone please take a look and let me know if im just being stupid

toon.
Title: Re: Couple of questions
Post by: Garth on February 20, 2010, 10:43:14 pm
There's a bit of adjustment on the rear bumper and also the rear lights can be moved a little before being tightened. Interestingly, I tried another members lights and they didn't sit right at all, wheres mine do. Strange one given that they were the same
Title: Re: Couple of questions
Post by: Top Cat on February 20, 2010, 10:44:33 pm
It is possible to slightly adjust the lights a few mil. you need a short ten mil spanner, its pretty easy to be honest. Slacken them off them hold them in the position you want while tightening.  :happy2:
Title: Re: Couple of questions
Post by: TOONARMY on February 20, 2010, 10:49:49 pm
Thanks for the advise so far guys, if someone could take a look at the link that i have posted and can either tell me to shut up and stop being stupid, or if adjustment is possible.
toon
Title: Re: Couple of questions
Post by: Top Cat on February 20, 2010, 10:53:32 pm
Its the actual boot that is out of line.  :chicken:

I would get the RAC to inspect it for crash damage or just walk away there are plenty of black GTI's to be had out there. Be patient.  :wink:
Title: Re: Couple of questions
Post by: nc35 on February 20, 2010, 10:53:57 pm
Bl@@dy iPhone.
Can't look cos it runs in flash.
Wouldn't worry get dealer to sort it before delivery.
VW can't sell cars without FVWSH & clean HPI.  
Title: Re: Couple of questions
Post by: nc35 on February 20, 2010, 10:55:30 pm
Didn't you mention a newer one with more miles & no sun roof?
Or am I mixing up threads?
Title: Re: Couple of questions
Post by: nc35 on February 20, 2010, 10:59:50 pm
Damage may not be recorded.
Also any repairs my not have been carried out at a VW dealer.
TC is correct any doubts walk.
Title: Re: Couple of questions
Post by: TOONARMY on February 21, 2010, 05:36:33 am
What i dont understand is that the n/s/r lamp units line up fine, but the o/s dont????

toon
Title: Re: Couple of questions
Post by: TOONARMY on February 21, 2010, 05:42:07 am
The problem is, ive put £500 deposit down on the car. I am going to ring them up and see if they can sort it. If they cant, how likely is it to get my £500 back? Is there actually any adjustment in the tailgate at all? I assume there must me so that a body shop can alighn the boot up correcty. I know its only 2mm or so, but im fussy as hell and if i can do it myself, then its all good.
toon
Title: Re: Couple of questions
Post by: edd666999 on February 21, 2010, 07:14:10 am
if you kick up enough fuss you will get it back. end of the day there is a valid reason for not wanting the car now. threaten them with small claims court if they still refuse and they will give in.
Title: Re: Couple of questions
Post by: Nasir on February 21, 2010, 09:51:16 am
It looks the boot is out of line from the left and not the light, might just need a few screws tightening on the left.
Title: Re: Couple of questions
Post by: 182_blue on February 21, 2010, 10:02:16 am
Yeh i say its the boot needs adjustment, it can be adjusted no problems, from new mine was a bit out so i got it adjusted, as was the front wing and drivers door (no accidents either), just VW famous build quality LOL, if it was closer i would lend you my paint gauge so you could test the paint to ensure its had no repairs
Title: Re: Couple of questions
Post by: candy turbo on February 21, 2010, 10:03:06 am
if the dealer cant get it to your satisfaction , walk away you should have no problem getting your deposit back , there are loads of gti s for sale and that one is pretty on the expensive side  :wink:
Title: Re: Couple of questions
Post by: 182_blue on February 21, 2010, 10:06:08 am
if the dealer cant get it to your satisfaction , walk away you should have no problem getting your deposit back , there are loads of gti s for sale and that one is pretty on the expensive side  :wink:

Agreed, i think VW do 30 day money/swop deal anyway if you dont like the car
Title: Re: Couple of questions
Post by: Nasir on February 21, 2010, 12:37:19 pm
if the dealer cant get it to your satisfaction , walk away you should have no problem getting your deposit back , there are loads of gti s for sale and that one is pretty on the expensive side  :wink:

Agreed, i think VW do 30 day money/swop deal anyway if you dont like the car
I think it's a fault within 30 days  :signLOL:
And you know they'd try their hardest to get out of it.
Title: Re: Couple of questions
Post by: TOONARMY on February 21, 2010, 05:27:19 pm
Thank you for all of the feedback guys. I just want the boot adjusted and the other items attending too (which they said they would do), then i will be happy. I love the golf GTI, also the price you see on the site is not what i paid.

toon
Title: Re: Couple of questions
Post by: 182_blue on February 21, 2010, 05:54:14 pm
if the dealer cant get it to your satisfaction , walk away you should have no problem getting your deposit back , there are loads of gti s for sale and that one is pretty on the expensive side  :wink:

Agreed, i think VW do 30 day money/swop deal anyway if you dont like the car
I think it's a fault within 30 days  :signLOL:
And you know they'd try their hardest to get out of it.
it didnt used to be just faults, guess they changed it ?
Title: Re: Couple of questions
Post by: Ifti on February 21, 2010, 05:55:46 pm
Best way to get the exhaust tips painted black is to go out on a few spritied drives ;)
Title: Re: Couple of questions
Post by: 182_blue on February 21, 2010, 05:58:19 pm
Thank you for all of the feedback guys. I just want the boot adjusted and the other items attending too (which they said they would do), then i will be happy. I love the golf GTI, also the price you see on the site is not what i paid.

toon

I have heard of a few Gti's with dodgy aligned panels, everything can be adjusted and you wont notice, although some of the bolts are painted and when opened the paint cracks on them, apart from that it will be fine
Title: Re: Couple of questions
Post by: gobbleplease on February 21, 2010, 06:06:01 pm
The ED 30 front vallance is £210 from vw
Title: Re: Couple of questions
Post by: TOONARMY on February 21, 2010, 06:13:46 pm
Thank you for all of the feedback guys. I just want the boot adjusted and the other items attending too (which they said they would do), then i will be happy. I love the golf GTI, also the price you see on the site is not what i paid.

toon

I have heard of a few Gti's with dodgy aligned panels, everything can be adjusted and you wont notice, although the bolts are painted and when opened the paint cracks on them, apart from that it will be fine

Im not too botherd about the paint on the bolts, the tailgate on the n/s just needs dropping a couple of mm. Is this easy to do?

toon
Title: Re: Couple of questions
Post by: 182_blue on February 21, 2010, 06:15:07 pm
Thank you for all of the feedback guys. I just want the boot adjusted and the other items attending too (which they said they would do), then i will be happy. I love the golf GTI, also the price you see on the site is not what i paid.

toon

I have heard of a few Gti's with dodgy aligned panels, everything can be adjusted and you wont notice, although the bolts are painted and when opened the paint cracks on them, apart from that it will be fine

Im not too botherd about the paint on the bolts, the tailgate on the n/s just needs dropping a couple of mm. Is this easy to do?

toon
Very easy to do (for them), it will be fine, as i said i had mine adjusted as it was a tad out, and mines not been crashed  :happy2: , its of course a good idea to do the usual checks :-)
Title: Re: Couple of questions
Post by: TOONARMY on February 21, 2010, 06:18:52 pm
Thank you for all of the feedback guys. I just want the boot adjusted and the other items attending too (which they said they would do), then i will be happy. I love the golf GTI, also the price you see on the site is not what i paid.

toon

I have heard of a few Gti's with dodgy aligned panels, everything can be adjusted and you wont notice, although the bolts are painted and when opened the paint cracks on them, apart from that it will be fine

Im not too botherd about the paint on the bolts, the tailgate on the n/s just needs dropping a couple of mm. Is this easy to do?

toon
Very easy to do (for them), it will be fine, as i said i had mine adjusted as it was a tad out, and mines not been crashed  :happy2: , its of course a good idea to do the usual checks :-)

What kind of checks would you recommend mate? I know it must of passed an HPI, as VW wouldnt sell it if it had not of passed the HPI.

toon
Title: Re: Couple of questions
Post by: 182_blue on February 21, 2010, 06:21:33 pm
Thank you for all of the feedback guys. I just want the boot adjusted and the other items attending too (which they said they would do), then i will be happy. I love the golf GTI, also the price you see on the site is not what i paid.

toon

I have heard of a few Gti's with dodgy aligned panels, everything can be adjusted and you wont notice, although the bolts are painted and when opened the paint cracks on them, apart from that it will be fine

Im not too botherd about the paint on the bolts, the tailgate on the n/s just needs dropping a couple of mm. Is this easy to do?

toon
Very easy to do (for them), it will be fine, as i said i had mine adjusted as it was a tad out, and mines not been crashed  :happy2: , its of course a good idea to do the usual checks :-)

What kind of checks would you recommend mate? I know it must of passed an HPI, as VW wouldnt sell it if it had not of passed the HPI.

toon

just look down the panels, you should b able to see damage, there should be any ripples etc, look under it, lift the rubbers etc etc, i took my paint gauge with mine to check it properly, as even from new i have known cars to have had a respray on panels
Title: Re: Couple of questions
Post by: TOONARMY on February 21, 2010, 07:10:55 pm
Im going to check the boot floor plan etc when i go to collect the car. I know its have a new fuel flap, as the paint job is terrible, bit i can get that resprayed as i am in the trade. So i will look dow the pannels to see if there is any ripples. I know this may sound really stupid, but please forgive me as i am very fussy. If you wouldnt mind looking at the pics of the car again and just see if anything is missing :ashamed:, i dont know why, but i just think something is missing, it mite just be me being stupid :rolleye:. So you just think the boot needs adjusting? If that is the case, then its all good, im going to call the dealer tomorrow and ask them to attend to it. One final question, the standard GTI exhaust, is it supposed to be flush with bumper, as the car in questions exhaust is not. Also if the exhaust supposed to be up in the cut out in the lower exhaust, or is it supposed to hang slightly lower so that it is in line with the bottom of the lower section of bumper :ashamed:?

toon
Title: Re: Couple of questions
Post by: nc35 on February 21, 2010, 07:24:31 pm
Think you are answering your own fears.

Car may have been fixed away from VW not recorded on any register, so the dealer will not be miss-selling.

From what has been said, getting the one with the sunroof may be the safer option.

It's not worth thinking if only in the future. Loads of GTIs out there and but a few good ones.
Title: Re: Couple of questions
Post by: 182_blue on February 21, 2010, 07:30:31 pm
Im going to check the boot floor plan etc when i go to collect the car. I know its have a new fuel flap, as the paint job is terrible, bit i can get that resprayed as i am in the trade. So i will look dow the pannels to see if there is any ripples. I know this may sound really stupid, but please forgive me as i am very fussy. If you wouldnt mind looking at the pics of the car again and just see if anything is missing :ashamed:, i dont know why, but i just think something is missing, it mite just be me being stupid :rolleye:. So you just think the boot needs adjusting? If that is the case, then its all good, im going to call the dealer tomorrow and ask them to attend to it. One final question, the standard GTI exhaust, is it supposed to be flush with bumper, as the car in questions exhaust is not. Also if the exhaust supposed to be up in the cut out in the lower exhaust, or is it supposed to hang slightly lower so that it is in line with the bottom of the lower section of bumper :ashamed:?

toon

Hmm, you didnt mention the flap before did you ?, i personally might just walk away from this one
Title: Re: Couple of questions
Post by: TOONARMY on February 21, 2010, 07:53:09 pm
Im going to check the boot floor plan etc when i go to collect the car. I know its have a new fuel flap, as the paint job is terrible, bit i can get that resprayed as i am in the trade. So i will look dow the pannels to see if there is any ripples. I know this may sound really stupid, but please forgive me as i am very fussy. If you wouldnt mind looking at the pics of the car again and just see if anything is missing :ashamed:, i dont know why, but i just think something is missing, it mite just be me being stupid :rolleye:. So you just think the boot needs adjusting? If that is the case, then its all good, im going to call the dealer tomorrow and ask them to attend to it. One final question, the standard GTI exhaust, is it supposed to be flush with bumper, as the car in questions exhaust is not. Also if the exhaust supposed to be up in the cut out in the lower exhaust, or is it supposed to hang slightly lower so that it is in line with the bottom of the lower section of bumper :ashamed:?

toon

Hmm, you didnt mention the flap before did you ?, i personally might just walk away from this one

Why do you say that mate? What im going to do is talk to the dealership about the fuel cap and tailgate, do you think they will get these both attended to? At the moment, they are going to repair all 4 wheels, service, cambelt, MOT, dropped the price, going to look at the rattle from the dash, going to look at an air vent where the trim is slightly coming away, also going to look at the clutch pedal. The car is going to be valeted and polished, as there are a few scratches on the roof etc. Am i asking too much here? Also do you know about the exhaust mate and have you had a chance to take a look at the pics of the car to see if there is anything missing?

toon
Title: Re: Couple of questions
Post by: 182_blue on February 21, 2010, 07:58:46 pm
Im going to check the boot floor plan etc when i go to collect the car. I know its have a new fuel flap, as the paint job is terrible, bit i can get that resprayed as i am in the trade. So i will look dow the pannels to see if there is any ripples. I know this may sound really stupid, but please forgive me as i am very fussy. If you wouldnt mind looking at the pics of the car again and just see if anything is missing :ashamed:, i dont know why, but i just think something is missing, it mite just be me being stupid :rolleye:. So you just think the boot needs adjusting? If that is the case, then its all good, im going to call the dealer tomorrow and ask them to attend to it. One final question, the standard GTI exhaust, is it supposed to be flush with bumper, as the car in questions exhaust is not. Also if the exhaust supposed to be up in the cut out in the lower exhaust, or is it supposed to hang slightly lower so that it is in line with the bottom of the lower section of bumper :ashamed:?

toon

Hmm, you didnt mention the flap before did you ?, i personally might just walk away from this one

Why do you say that mate? What im going to do is talk to the dealership about the fuel cap and tailgate, do you think they will get these both attended to? At the moment, they are going to repair all 4 wheels, service, cambelt, MOT, dropped the price, going to look at the rattle from the dash, going to look at an air vent where the trim is slightly coming away, also going to look at the clutch pedal. The car is going to be valeted and polished, as there are a few scratches on the roof etc. Am i asking too much here? Also do you know about the exhaust mate and have you had a chance to take a look at the pics of the car to see if there is anything missing?

toon

Its hard to see from such small pics, i just wonder why the cap has been replaced ?
Title: Re: Couple of questions
Post by: TOONARMY on February 21, 2010, 08:02:54 pm
Im going to check the boot floor plan etc when i go to collect the car. I know its have a new fuel flap, as the paint job is terrible, bit i can get that resprayed as i am in the trade. So i will look dow the pannels to see if there is any ripples. I know this may sound really stupid, but please forgive me as i am very fussy. If you wouldnt mind looking at the pics of the car again and just see if anything is missing :ashamed:, i dont know why, but i just think something is missing, it mite just be me being stupid :rolleye:. So you just think the boot needs adjusting? If that is the case, then its all good, im going to call the dealer tomorrow and ask them to attend to it. One final question, the standard GTI exhaust, is it supposed to be flush with bumper, as the car in questions exhaust is not. Also if the exhaust supposed to be up in the cut out in the lower exhaust, or is it supposed to hang slightly lower so that it is in line with the bottom of the lower section of bumper :ashamed:?

toon

Hmm, you didnt mention the flap before did you ?, i personally might just walk away from this one

Why do you say that mate? What im going to do is talk to the dealership about the fuel cap and tailgate, do you think they will get these both attended to? At the moment, they are going to repair all 4 wheels, service, cambelt, MOT, dropped the price, going to look at the rattle from the dash, going to look at an air vent where the trim is slightly coming away, also going to look at the clutch pedal. The car is going to be valeted and polished, as there are a few scratches on the roof etc. Am i asking too much here? Also do you know about the exhaust mate and have you had a chance to take a look at the pics of the car to see if there is anything missing?

toon

Its hard to see from such small pics, i just wonder why the cap has been replaced ?

Yeah i understand what you mean, but do you think im being too fussy with my requests from the dealership?

toon
Title: Re: Couple of questions
Post by: 182_blue on February 21, 2010, 08:06:14 pm
Im going to check the boot floor plan etc when i go to collect the car. I know its have a new fuel flap, as the paint job is terrible, bit i can get that resprayed as i am in the trade. So i will look dow the pannels to see if there is any ripples. I know this may sound really stupid, but please forgive me as i am very fussy. If you wouldnt mind looking at the pics of the car again and just see if anything is missing :ashamed:, i dont know why, but i just think something is missing, it mite just be me being stupid :rolleye:. So you just think the boot needs adjusting? If that is the case, then its all good, im going to call the dealer tomorrow and ask them to attend to it. One final question, the standard GTI exhaust, is it supposed to be flush with bumper, as the car in questions exhaust is not. Also if the exhaust supposed to be up in the cut out in the lower exhaust, or is it supposed to hang slightly lower so that it is in line with the bottom of the lower section of bumper :ashamed:?

toon

Hmm, you didnt mention the flap before did you ?, i personally might just walk away from this one

Why do you say that mate? What im going to do is talk to the dealership about the fuel cap and tailgate, do you think they will get these both attended to? At the moment, they are going to repair all 4 wheels, service, cambelt, MOT, dropped the price, going to look at the rattle from the dash, going to look at an air vent where the trim is slightly coming away, also going to look at the clutch pedal. The car is going to be valeted and polished, as there are a few scratches on the roof etc. Am i asking too much here? Also do you know about the exhaust mate and have you had a chance to take a look at the pics of the car to see if there is anything missing?

toon

Its hard to see from such small pics, i just wonder why the cap has been replaced ?

Yeah i understand what you mean, but do you think im being too fussy with my requests from the dealership?

toon

Not at all, get all you can from them, its hard for me sat here so far away from the car telling you what to do, i would really go to town and chech the whole car out, check the door shuts, as resprays tend to be blended in these areas, just do the works on it
Title: Re: Couple of questions
Post by: Top Cat on February 21, 2010, 08:08:54 pm
The fuel flaps on most of our cars are no match to the bodywork. They are plastic and just get fitted from the parts bin as the car goes around the factory.

I got my car new and my flap colour match is terrible.  :sad1:  :happy2:
Title: Re: Couple of questions
Post by: ollie288 on February 21, 2010, 08:11:54 pm
The fuel flaps on most of our cars are no match to the bodywork. They are plastic and just get fitted from the parts bin as the car goes around the factory.

I got my car new and my flap colour match is terrible.  :sad1:  :happy2:

My fuel cap is a totally different texture in the sunlight. Looks hazy compared to the other paint work.   :happy2:
Title: Re: Couple of questions
Post by: TOONARMY on February 21, 2010, 09:10:45 pm
Thankyou for the feedback guys, it is a great help :happy2:. Im really looking forward to picking up the car on saturday and to drive a nice decent car for once. So i will call them tomorrow and tell them that i want the boot adjusted at it does not line up correctly on the n/s. Also i am going to mention to them about the finish on the fuel cap and ask them to attend to this. They are also doing a cambelt, as it is due in may, then are doing a service, MOT, brake fluid change, ref furb of all 4 wheels (big thing for me) and get the car mopped, as it has some scrathes on it. If all this is completed and attended to, to my standards, then i will be really happy with the car.

toon
Title: Re: Couple of questions
Post by: Howardvwgolf on February 21, 2010, 09:27:03 pm
Bl@@dy iPhone.
Can't look cos it runs in flash.
Wouldn't worry get dealer to sort it before delivery.
VW can't sell cars without FVWSH & clean HPI.  

Is that true out of curiosity?
Title: Re: Couple of questions
Post by: Nasir on February 21, 2010, 10:14:45 pm
I don't think the full vw service history part is, well it definitely isn't with Audi. Yep the 30 day exchange is definitely only for fault related issues. http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/used/exchange-policy
Title: Re: Couple of questions
Post by: nc35 on February 21, 2010, 10:15:57 pm
Is that true out of curiosity?
Yep. Just another way to get you to get your car serviced by them. Cars without FVWSH just go to another part of the dealer franchise.
Most of this info is in the used car sales literature.
Title: Re: Couple of questions
Post by: ub7rm on February 22, 2010, 07:58:47 am
I don't think the full VWSH is true.  My fiancee's polo didn't have a full VAG history.

They maybe should, but we all know what  stealers are like.   :stupid:

I wouldn't take it as a given anyway.
Title: Re: Couple of questions
Post by: TOONARMY on February 22, 2010, 08:11:40 pm
I have spoken to the dealer today and informed them of what is required. They said ok. I have spoken the guys at work who said that the tailgate is adjustable, these isnt a lot of movement, but is can be adjusted.

toon