MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: Gtcpaul1971 on May 30, 2019, 07:57:37 pm
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Hi, so I bought my 54 plate gti in Oct 17 for £2500. It had 113k miles and now has 134k miles. It has had loads of tlc and I have spent quite a lot on it over that time getting everything done and just spent another £500 last week on tyres and suspension. Must be over 5k spent now and I know it is not worth anything near that. The inside is excellent. Hardly much wear. Exterior has a few small dents etc. I need the air con fixing as it has been 're gased and still doesn't work. Exhaust has a slightly small hole in it and suspension still needs looking at as it is still making a slight noise over bumps at low speeds. I also would like it remapping but don't think the clutch could handle it as it is the original. So......... do I keep it and keep plowing money into it that I won't see back or sell now and look for something newer with less miles and already had much of the work done? Would like a pirelli edition and a Mk 6 gti at some point. I do love my car though. Thoughts!
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If you get everything sorted will you still be hankering after a Pirelli or mk6? If so then I'd say don't pile more money into it but put it into your next purchase instead.
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x2 what he said ^^^...
But the mk5 Gti is a great car, from the GTI - Edition 30 - Pirelli. :evilgrin:
You could throw money at it endlessly but as you well know you won't get it back :doh: How many of us have done that.... :thinking: You just have to decide is it worth it...
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I put a stage 1 remap on mine last November at 155k. Now on 162k and no clutch issues at all! Original clutch in the Apr 2007 car. Would totally recommend taking a small punt and hoping for the best, it truly does transform it!
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You could buy a Pirelli or a MK6 and it could still need similar amounts work! Everything you have listed on yours is just general wear & tear maintenance costs.
It's the age old cost vs benefit argument of keeping an old car going. It's why a lot of people lease cars now. Something brand new every 3 years. No stresses.
For me personally that doesn't work as I hate paying monthly for things. Once the novelty wears off (and it always does) you're saddled with 36 more payments.
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x2 what he said ^^^...
But the mk5 Gti is a great car, from the GTI - Edition 30 - Pirelli. :evilgrin:
You could throw money at it endlessly but as you well know you won't get it back :doh: How many of us have done that.... :thinking: You just have to decide is it worth it...
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As above!!!!
Me well spent way too much on mine but I love her ......am on the point of no return as I will keep her as I know nothing is going to as reliable as she is
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For me it comes down to do you still love to drive the car or as above if all was fixed would you still have wandering eyes. The 2 cars you were mentioning are not much newer so you could get all the same standard issues so if were looking to sack it in for something newer then i would be looking at maybe an MK7(not that I am a fan of them)
I was in the same situation as you about 2 years ago where i was thinking about something new potentially on Lease(was looking at an RS3). I ended up selling my Edition 30 and after looking around for a few months just did not feel like anything else would get me the value for money vs performance that the ED30 did and also could not get over paying monthly for something that would not feel like mine and in essence just join the rest of the lease drones :grin:
In the end my old ED30 came back up for sale and I snapped it back up and everytime I see it on the drive now I fee lucky and it will not be going anywhere apart from the scrapyard when it is finally dead :happy2:
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Hi guys sorry for late response, been ill.
Thanks for the replies. It is a difficult one as I could buy another one and end up having to shell out all over again. In many ways she has had a lot spent but at least I know it's had done. It has just had a anti roll bar fitted today as that was causing the knocking noise. £50 so not a deal breaker.
Apparently it needs an air recirculation flap motor fitted its £220 as the part from vs is £160. I think I am going to get the part number and gave a go at getting a used one off eBay and fitting myself?
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Is a Golf GTI mk5 worth buying in 2022? It’s going to be my first car, and I want it to be not expensive and easy to maintain. I don’t need additional comfort or horsepower, but I just need a vehicle to get my ass from one place to another.
Maybe someday I will be able to afford cars like people from https://wealthyliving.com/money/rick-ross-net-worth/ (https://wealthyliving.com/money/rick-ross-net-worth/) but not today. Today I need to focus on what I can buy now and what I can use for my work. I live in a village, and it’s impossible to live here without a car. I have to walk for hours to get to the local town, which takes too much time from my day.
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Buy a Fiesta then if that's all you need a car for.
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Buy a Fiesta then if that's all you need a car for.
Say it how it is Pudding 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Totally agree with you……….I miss my mk 5 soooooooo much 🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹
Wouldn’t moan about running costs if I could find same spec as my old one♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
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Well, could there have been in any more apathy in that first post?! :grin: I mean, seriously, wants a GTI just to "to get his/her ass from one place to another". A Fiesta is more than capable of that :happy2: And it would be LOADS cheaper to run than a GTI.
You must have got a good GTI as I hate mine :grin:
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Hahaha I did but it did cost me to get her sorted but I still miss her badly
So anyone got a black red or white mk5 gti 5 door…….full gti embossed leather with all options sunroof being a total must and fsh non moded and manual??????? Oh forgot to say low mileage also😂
Guess I need to find this 🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄
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If you love your GTI, you can keep it going (by spending some money occasionally). It's worth it as long as you don't sell it. If it's not the car you want though...
Still, anything you're not buying brand new, will also need work. Fact of life.
For me personally that doesn't work as I hate paying monthly for things. Once the novelty wears off (and it always does) you're saddled with 36 more payments.
Totally this.
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Yeah decent MK5s are getting scarce now, especially ones with all the desired factory options. So good luck with the hunting!
It seems the newer Golfs aren't as robust as people first thought, which is hardly surprising given the cost cutting and planned obsolescence culture we now live in, so stick to the MK5 if you can. However, VW's 10 year obligation for parts availability expired 8 years ago, so expect some things to be permanently on "back order", or just flat out obsoleted.
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Oh I know :sad1:
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As others have said if you love the car, spend money on the car. You will get problems with any car you buy, if you buy a car brand new things start wearing down eventually.
I've spent quite a bit on the car so she's up and running well, never 100% though I still need to get to the bottom of a few issues :grin:
I have the exact same fault as you with the aircon, was thinking about doing it myself. Have you ever been hands on with the car? That might save you some £££. I understand some people don't have time to be pulling things off their car but with Youtube and other guides it's all out there with step by step tutorials.
Why do you like the MK6? I think it's a good car with better build quality but for the price of a good later example (without the major issues) they cost an absolute fortune! I personally think the MK6 was the last good looking GTI, after that all the personality was taken away. Although I definitely prefer the look of the MK5.
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The mk6 imho is not a patch on the build quality of the 5 :signLOL:
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It's me who likes the MK6, not Amanda :grin:
When I draw comparisons between the build quality of 5 and 6, I suppose I am comparing a 54K mile old MK6 to a 175K mile old MK5 :grin:
We'll have to agree to disagree on that in general, but in all honesty, every comparable MK6 I've been in has been WAAAAAY better built. MK5 1.4 TSI vs MK6, infinitely better, especially with the DynAudio pack offered on the 6. Zero rattles from the doors at full volume. Can't say that about a 5. MK5 R32 v MK6 R, again, tinfoil vs granite. MK5 and MK6 GTI and Diesels, the 6 wins again, sorry :laugh:
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Cars are money pits, well even vaguely high performing cars are money pits, but do people honestly buy these cars without knowing that? I'm happy with my MK5, despite it costing me far too much money, all my cars have really and I'll never get the money back, it's just one of those things. Recently passed 200K, the engine 100K and still going fine, in fact R Tech complimented me on the condition of it for it's age and mileage, even better now as I finally got some rust and the wheels done.
Each to their own. If you just need a car to get from A to B then buy something cheap and reliable. If you want some fun getting between A and B and don't want or can't afford a weekend car then get something sporty, just be prepared to accept the higher maintenance costs.
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I only use mine at weekends and use the wife's car as a daily drive. Only do 3 - 4k a year in the golf to go long journeys. Not Into spending thousands on repairs on a 16 year old car.
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Well I would have to guess from his/her silence that they have knocked that idea on the head or are outside fixing it already! I am prepared to spend money on mine, but went into the situation with eyes wide open to the fact it was built in 2006 and has had in the past, owners who were equally as committed as I am. There are better cars out there, but I wanted a mk5 gti in the end...I just found it the best fit for my needs. A2B...Fiesta!
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Well I would have to guess from his/her silence that they have knocked that idea on the head or are outside fixing it already! I am prepared to spend money on mine, but went into the situation with eyes wide open to the fact it was built in 2006 and has had in the past, owners who were equally as committed as I am. There are better cars out there, but I wanted a mk5 gti in the end...I just found it the best fit for my needs. A2B...Fiesta!
Hopefully they decided to keep and fix it! Like me too, I went in knowing it'll probably need a couple grand spent on it over the year of ownership (ended up needing a bit more, probably 3 :grin:) I actually looked at cleaner examples prior to purchasing the one I own now, but the colour completely sold it to me. I think it was more looked after in the beginning, but the previous owner had fallen out of love with it but kept on with servicing. I honestly couldn't think of a better car for the money that would suit me best. It's not too fast to drive everyday, decent MPG, comfortable and the quality is good. Me and my partner travel about 32 miles a day, lots of B roads so it's lots of fun. I didn't want to drive an 02 polo 32 miles a day, it was so boring and slow.
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Cars are money pits, well even vaguely high performing cars are money pits, but do people honestly buy these cars without knowing that?
You'd be surprised how many people do :grin: I've known people in the past scrape just enough money together to buy an M3 (E36/E46 era), but ended up selling it again when the first maintenance bill cropped up :grin:
You have to be realistic. A £50K car new, still comes with £50K car maintenance costs, even if it only costs £10K to buy it 15 years later. That is what people don't seem to understand. Even a basic, by today's standards, E46 M3 needs expensive 10W60 oil (which it likes to drink), 6 x spark plugs, inspection 2 service (valve clearance adjustment) at £800 ish, 20mpg average if you're lucky....and that's before we mention road tax and insurance.
Compared to that, current Audi RS4s or whatever with the Bi-turbo V8 are just insane on maintenance.....two turbos, 8 plugs, 8 coilpacks and shed loads of known faults that are expensive to fix, because most of them are engine out jobs :grin:
So yeah, no matter what car you buy, large sums of money leaves your bank regardless, unless you choose the cheap life of a 1.0 Fiesta. Choose your money pit wisely :grin:
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Have resigned myself to the thought that continuely fixing my old girl is way cheaper than buying a newer vehicle. So far this year she's needed a new starter motor, alternator, belt tensioner, belt and is due for injector replacements (as 2 have effectively failed, so makes sense to replace all given the removal work required). Oil leak from the camchain cover and brake booster needs sorting as does countless amounts of interior trim and exterior corrosion. Stage 1 tuned and a daily driver for the wife and I. Will never get rid of it. Looking forward to seeing 200,000 miles (about 10k off ATM) 🙂
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Choose your money pit wisely :grin:
Perfect quote :grin:
@Oldie05 (https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=101886) I've decided I'm keeping mine for the foreseeable future. Just had cam chain, tensioner and vvt done, injectors cleaned and intake walnut blasted and that made a hell of a difference to how smooth the engine was after 100k. Chassis on 200k now, replaced most of the suspension. Think the starter is going to need replacing soon and then it's a case of rust really. Still like driving it and keep looking at new GTIs (well mk7/7.5, hate the way the 8s look for some reason) and then thinking, yeah but why do you want one and it just comes down to it being shinier and newer so it's still going to be cheaper to keep the MK5 going that buy a newer car.
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Mine is just coming up to around 120k and it needs the following;
Chain and tensioner? (Never been done)
Front suspension refresh
Injector clean?
DSG service
What am i looking at for that? best part of 2 grand i imagine, which i haven't got :sad1:
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before i got my tcr i looked a r8 and cayman after looking at running costs i abandoned the latter two unrealistic in the long term
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Still like driving it and keep looking at new GTIs (well mk7/7.5, hate the way the 8s look for some reason)
Because they look awful :grin: German cars are so homogenised now, VAG, BMW & Merc may as well just join forces and make standard issue cars for the masses.....and the irony of Hitler's Beetle wasn't lost on me with that comment :grin: Life, as they say, goes round in circles.
Anyway, the MK5 still has a nod to the past in the way it looks and drives, which is probably why it's gaining in popularity. Everyone with MK8s seem to report so many software bugs and build quality issues, they're just not worth the money. They are the Barratt homes of the car world. Shoddily made shat at premium prices.
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Mine is just coming up to around 120k and it needs the following;
Chain and tensioner? (Never been done)
Front suspension refresh
Injector clean?
DSG service
What am i looking at for that? best part of 2 grand i imagine, which i haven't got :sad1:
Yeah, probably in the ballpark of that. If I were you, I'd get the important stuff done first then save up for the other stuff. Definitely do the chain and tensioner and DSG service (every 40k miles I think?) should set you back about £800 but at least that's the major stuff out of the way. Unfortunately my tensioner failed at 128k so I would definitely recommend getting it done as it can kill your engine!
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Cheers. Do you think that will include the all important VVT adjuster thingy bolt?
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Yes I would've thought so, cost me about £600 to do ours and he done the camfollower and a couple of other bits to do while he was down there.
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First price in from local VAG specialist;
Chain and tensioner £750 plus vat
Dsg service £220 plus vat
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First price in from local VAG specialist;
Chain and tensioner £750 plus vat
Dsg service £220 plus vat
I would definitely take a look around elsewhere, I think you could get it done a little cheaper. As I said I paid about £600 inc vat for the chain, tensioner, adjuster and cam follower at least. He's a VAG specialist. Where are you based?
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First price in from local VAG specialist;
Chain and tensioner £750 plus vat
Dsg service £220 plus vat
I would definitely take a look around elsewhere, I think you could get it done a little cheaper. As I said I paid about £600 inc vat for the chain, tensioner, adjuster and cam follower at least. He's a VAG specialist. Where are you based?
Im in Kent but travel to Yorkshire every now and again. In dont think £600 would include the adjuster though as this is £300 on its own for the part.
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My fault, you are right. Didn't include the adjuster. Although he did clean all the sump and remove any contamination so that was added labour.
Did the £750 not include adjuster? If you just needed chain and tensioner, going by my VAG specialist price it would make it more like £550.
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Cars are money pits, well even vaguely high performing cars are money pits, but do people honestly buy these cars without knowing that? I'm happy with my MK5, despite it costing me far too much money, all my cars have really and I'll never get the money back, it's just one of those things. Recently passed 200K, the engine 100K and still going fine, in fact R Tech complimented me on the condition of it for it's age and mileage, even better now as I finally got some rust and the wheels done.
Each to their own. If you just need a car to get from A to B then buy something cheap and reliable. If you want some fun getting between A and B and don't want or can't afford a weekend car then get something sporty, just be prepared to accept the higher maintenance costs.
This is my first post here, been reading a lot of threads without an account based on google results but there's probably threads that I was missing without using the forum's search function (granted it is a bit all over the place in terms of dates of the results that come up), so now have an account.
Not driven for over 3 years and been without a car since early 2020 as my old Fiesta was written off just before first lockdown, and I'm in a similar situation. MK5 Golf seems decent value for money but then there seems to be quite a few things that would be nice to upgrade such as the head unit, maybe lights to r32/ed30, and just replace in terms of maintenance such as the PCV, DV, and Cam Follower.
I might make a separate thread on it to maybe get some more attention but what sort of values would you be expecting for a MK5 GTI with say 70-90k miles? One near me has the water pump and timing belt last done around 20k miles ago / 5 years ago, so it seems those would be due now, however the dealer is adamant there's no price movement and that it's unlikely to find one on the market that has everything done just prior to sale from a business perspective. I also don't know about the PCV, DV, Cam Follower as to when they were last done and it seems they don't know either, and I'd sort of expect these things to all be for sure sorted if the price is over say £6500, or is that me being too hopeful? It's a manual too, which I'm not sure whether that would make it worth less or more than a DSG.
It may be worth just getting something newer, or getting an older shed until more examples come around, and I can farther to see them without paying a fortune in taxis / transport.
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They're solid and reliable cars if looked after. The difficulty is finding one that has been!