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Title: HPFP fitted.
Post by: Aparoon on February 26, 2010, 07:31:36 am
Had a trip to PSI Tuning yesterday, had the Autotech internals fitted. Cost me 41quid which I think is a bargain, not worth getting dirty for that price IMO. Anyway i'd already bought the stage3 map from bf, sat in the car park and uploaded it before setting off home :ashamed:

Traffic was horrendous on the m6 but still the difference is very noticeable, more so than when I went stage 2... pulls from no revs and keeps going without dropping off! I'm only running a carbonio at the mo so maybe more to be had if/when I buy an intake. Couldn't be happier with it so for all those on the group buy get em fitted :driver:

Chris  :smiley:
Title: Re: HPFP fitted.
Post by: gazbutS3 on February 26, 2010, 08:09:09 am
41 quid? absolute bargain :smiley: a few of the other garage/workshops need to take note and stop takin the p1ss :wink:
Title: Re: HPFP fitted.
Post by: Aparoon on February 26, 2010, 08:14:05 am
41 quid? absolute bargain :smiley: a few of the other garage/workshops need to take note and stop takin the p1ss :wink:

Yep  :happy2:

Took about half an hour... PSI are spot on thats why I don't mind travelling to them!
Title: Re: HPFP fitted.
Post by: Greeners on February 26, 2010, 09:31:30 am
Glad your pleased with the ST3 map. I noticed it made the power delivery very linear and smooth!  :happy2:
Title: Re: HPFP fitted.
Post by: KRL on February 26, 2010, 09:53:35 am
Glad you are happy with it.  You need to get yourself back down the POD now for some more times  :evilgrin:
Title: Re: HPFP fitted.
Post by: Aparoon on February 26, 2010, 10:05:57 am
Tell me about it, I can't wait to get back there, it's just sooo far away... Should have my Pro race 1.2s on Monday also  :jumpmove:

I just hope they are a worthwhile mod too!
Title: Re: HPFP fitted.
Post by: Mackie1 on February 26, 2010, 10:32:53 am
Had my HPFP fitted last night by OTTIS (who had fitted his own on saturday). It took us around 3 hrs from start to finish, the most time-consuming part being the intensive cleaning of every tiny component. I also took the opportunity (whilst the engine cover was off!!) to change my plugs to some Denso Iridium boys. So after numerous checks (cam follower was fine), a dozen or so cups of coffee and several ciggies...we took the car a run and although i'm "only" running an Oettinger Stage 1 map, the difference was very noticeable. The car now pulls a lot harder from low down and just seems to KEEP pulling right the way through rev range. It just feels more "willing" to push on...if that makes sense!! So overall i'm extremely pleased with the Autotech HPFP and would strongly recommend it to anyone wanting to tap deeper into their Ed30's potential. :happy2:

Pump out, cleaned, Autotech internals fitted and ready to go....just time for another coffee and cig...!! :rolleye:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fzz181%2Fstemcaloney%2F1FuelPump.jpg&hash=d32db9dd80b5aec1e764b2854672ea5c121c1737)
Title: Re: HPFP fitted.
Post by: joesgti on February 26, 2010, 10:38:32 am
getting mine done on the 5th at ADS in preston!! cant wait!¬
Title: Re: HPFP fitted.
Post by: tony_danza on February 26, 2010, 07:11:34 pm
Mine's done - I got the phone call today after Mike at Votex had been out doing some logging to set the REVO st2+ just right.... the conversation went along the lines of this:

"Mike, your car is done. It's absolutely stupid. I didn't think it had that much more to give"

Also did me a DSG service (I do it every 20k), new rear brakes and RBF600 refreshed, rebuilt the fronts (I'm anal and have this done frequently), fitted some Oettinger turbo pipework I'd forgot I had and given it their extra special once over before I'm at Rockingham next Saturday.

I've been out with my friends helping with 'project Borat race car', so I won't have chance to see for myself what it's like until tomorrow.
Title: Re: HPFP fitted.
Post by: NB07 on February 27, 2010, 10:32:39 am
It's absolutely stupid.

Yep  :grin:

had my ITG fitted at the same time and oh my its quick  :driver:
Title: Re: HPFP fitted.
Post by: SteveP on February 27, 2010, 10:37:42 am
Nice to meet you yesterday Nick  :happy2:
Title: Re: HPFP fitted.
Post by: CarrG on February 27, 2010, 10:44:24 am
£41 is a really good price. Great mod well worth it!
Title: Re: HPFP fitted.
Post by: tony_danza on February 27, 2010, 11:02:07 am
Picked mine up and took it for a run, still adapting at the minute but it feels way stronger through the midrange.

I'm also much happier now I know I've eliminated a weak link, rather than map around it.
Title: Re: HPFP fitted.
Post by: Janner_Sy on February 27, 2010, 11:12:16 am
i found i could corner one gear higher and still power out of a corner with the same oomph(to a degree) biut with less inside wheel spin.
Title: Re: HPFP fitted.
Post by: NB07 on February 27, 2010, 11:29:29 am
when i got the parcel the other day i thought id been had! its such a small light thing but it truely is awesome what a little thing like that can do  :happy2:

Nice to meet you yesterday Nick  :happy2:

and you. good job you were there steve ITG pro fitter! :happy2:

your cars looking lovely in the flesh  :drool:

Title: Re: HPFP fitted.
Post by: KRL on February 27, 2010, 11:37:56 am
REally want to get mine fitted now  :evilgrin:

Was going to wait a couple of months and get it done at the same time the car was being serviced, not sure I can wait now though  :signLOL:
Title: Re: HPFP fitted.
Post by: xxx_mojo_xxx on February 27, 2010, 12:01:42 pm
... (whilst the engine cover was off!!) to change my plugs to some Denso Iridium boys. ...

Which ones were they mate?  Thinking of doing mine soon.  :laugh:
Title: Re: HPFP fitted.
Post by: KRL on February 27, 2010, 12:11:03 pm
I just ordered these for my S3:
NGK IRIDIUM IX spark plugs - BKR7EIX

From JKM  :happy2:

http://www.jkm.org.uk/performance/tfsimisc.htm
Title: Re: HPFP fitted.
Post by: gazbutS3 on February 27, 2010, 12:28:36 pm
I fitted some the other week, could be placebo but does feel crisper
Title: Re: HPFP fitted.
Post by: Ottis on February 27, 2010, 12:50:23 pm
... (whilst the engine cover was off!!) to change my plugs to some Denso Iridium boys. ...

Which ones were they mate?  Thinking of doing mine soon.  :laugh:

Denso Iridium ones from Europarts as recommended by Hurdy a few weeks ago. Great job! :happy2: (Mackie1)
Title: Re: HPFP fitted.
Post by: SKAVIA on February 27, 2010, 03:01:11 pm
Did you guys who had their HPFP fitted also change your cam follower for an uprated one?
I've heard things can get very expensive if you don't  :jumping:
Title: Re: HPFP fitted.
Post by: bacillus on February 27, 2010, 03:52:12 pm
Did you guys who had their HPFP fitted also change your cam follower for an uprated one?
I've heard things can get very expensive if you don't  :jumping:

Just install a new standard one with the pump and check it every 7k miles or so...
Title: Re: HPFP fitted.
Post by: SKAVIA on February 27, 2010, 05:18:06 pm
Thanks bacillus - I checked mine when I changed the pump and it looked as new - not the slightest mark.
It was one of your old posts that made me ask the question  :happy2:
Isn't there an uprated one available as checking every 7k will be ARPITA?!
Title: Re: HPFP fitted.
Post by: Poverty on February 27, 2010, 05:19:23 pm
I havent bothered to change my follower as its in pristine condition
Title: Re: HPFP fitted.
Post by: SKAVIA on February 27, 2010, 05:39:26 pm
How many miles have you done with your HPFP and are you gonna check it regularly?
Title: Re: HPFP fitted.
Post by: Poverty on February 27, 2010, 05:41:29 pm
How many miles have you done with your HPFP and are you gonna check it regularly?

Its currently on 12000 miles and its been checked 3 times so far.

Over on scn we have a thread on this with pics of different members followers and their mileage
http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=174856&page=5
Title: Re: HPFP fitted.
Post by: SKAVIA on February 27, 2010, 05:49:17 pm
Nice one  :happy2:
One thing I didn't want with all the extra mods was extra headache but it seems it's too late now  :sick:
Title: Re: HPFP fitted.
Post by: xxx_mojo_xxx on February 27, 2010, 06:00:28 pm
... (whilst the engine cover was off!!) to change my plugs to some Denso Iridium boys. ...

Which ones were they mate?  Thinking of doing mine soon.  :laugh:

Denso Iridium ones from Europarts as recommended by Hurdy a few weeks ago. Great job! :happy2: (Mackie1)

Cheers buddy... did you go for the VK20Y or VK24Y?
Title: Re: HPFP fitted.
Post by: Mackie1 on March 01, 2010, 12:11:28 pm
... (whilst the engine cover was off!!) to change my plugs to some Denso Iridium boys. ...

Which ones were they mate?  Thinking of doing mine soon.  :laugh:

Denso Iridium ones from Europarts as recommended by Hurdy a few weeks ago. Great job! :happy2: (Mackie1)

Cheers buddy... did you go for the VK20Y or VK24Y?

The VK24Ys.  :happy2:
Title: Re: HPFP fitted.
Post by: gillm on March 05, 2010, 06:29:11 pm
just done this myself . about 75% of the steps do not need to be done . if i was do do it again i would leave out removing thefollowing

remove fuel pipe unions
remove pressure releif valve
remove the end plate (the one with bleed nipple on)

all the above are just for cleaning , and it it has just come off a running engine (mine had) then it will be clean as petrol is 1 of the best degreasers in the world , plus you would save about a hours work , tuning the job into a half a hour job . plus as you are breaking seals there is more risk to leaks .

my 2p's worth anyways
Title: Re: HPFP fitted.
Post by: KRL on March 05, 2010, 08:07:23 pm
So how does your car feel now?  :evilgrin:
Title: Re: HPFP fitted.
Post by: gillm on March 05, 2010, 08:31:22 pm
to be honest i have not driven it , im off ill at the moment with a inner ear infection so feel dizzy alot of the time . but will see how i feel tomorrow . was handy being dizzy tho as my dad removed it from the car :)
Title: Re: HPFP fitted.
Post by: Janner_Sy on March 05, 2010, 08:43:14 pm
i was thinking with the guys with revo and an SPS.  is there any need to go stage 2+. could you not just up the boost and fueling??
Title: Re: HPFP fitted.
Post by: Poppa Dom on March 05, 2010, 08:59:05 pm
i was thinking with the guys with revo and an SPS.  is there any need to go stage 2+. could you not just up the boost and fueling??
You could but the Stage 2+ map is optimised for the pump, IIRC Stage 2 is not.
Title: Re: HPFP fitted.
Post by: KRL on March 05, 2010, 09:34:45 pm
I am planning to run the pump with stage 1 and do as Sy suggested - richen up the fueling and up the boost.

Obviously it would be best to run an optimised 2+ map but I think there are still good gains to be had even at stage 1.
Title: Re: HPFP fitted.
Post by: Poppa Dom on March 05, 2010, 09:40:41 pm
Agreed, I did run my pump on Stage 2 and optimised fuelling and timing, did not increase boost. However the Stage 2+ did take it to a whole new level.
Title: Re: HPFP fitted.
Post by: bacillus on March 05, 2010, 10:16:07 pm
iirc the stage 2 revo map only calls for 110 bar fuel rail pressure whilst stage 2+ ups that to 130 bar.

This means that injection timing for the same fuel load is shorter with the 2+ map with a little extra in hand for even richer fuel setting vs stage 2.
Title: Re: HPFP fitted.
Post by: KRL on March 06, 2010, 10:02:20 am
Maybe its different on the the K03 but on the K04 up to 130 bar is requested even at stage 1 which causes the pump to struggle:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fuu264%2Flivall%2Frevo_stage_1_rail_pressure_6_5_9.jpg&hash=0271d794e69e8d31d53f37d9701d153c61dfc2aa)
Title: Re: HPFP fitted.
Post by: bacillus on March 06, 2010, 01:18:52 pm
Maybe its different on the the K03 but on the K04 up to 130 bar is requested even at stage 1 which causes the pump to struggle:

Yup, I was speaking of the k03...

From that plot, it would seem to me that revo should say that even their stage 1 would benefit from an uprated hpfp.
Title: Re: HPFP fitted.
Post by: Hedge on March 06, 2010, 01:27:44 pm
Maybe its different on the the K03 but on the K04 up to 130 bar is requested even at stage 1 which causes the pump to struggle:

Yup, I was speaking of the k03...

From that plot, it would seem to me that revo should say that even their stage 1 would benefit from an uprated hpfp.

I seem to remember reading something from one of the Revo boys that said as much. :smiley:
Title: Re: HPFP fitted.
Post by: Beddie on March 06, 2010, 01:34:38 pm
Could the same be said re Bluefin stage 1?
The HPFP is a mod i really fancing doing especially for the mid range increases it seems to give, i'm running a lowly stage 1 bluefin, cat back Milltek and Carbonio with ITG filter, HPFP worth doing??
Title: Re: HPFP fitted.
Post by: Hedge on March 06, 2010, 01:36:26 pm
Could the same be said re Bluefin stage 1?
The HPFP is a mod i really fancing doing especially for the mid range increases it seems to give, i'm running a lowly stage 1 bluefin, cat back Milltek and Carbonio with ITG filter, HPFP worth doing??


Not on Superchips as they only request 110bar rail pressure unless it is a pump specific software.
Title: Re: HPFP fitted.
Post by: Beddie on March 06, 2010, 02:15:49 pm
Could the same be said re Bluefin stage 1?
The HPFP is a mod i really fancing doing especially for the mid range increases it seems to give, i'm running a lowly stage 1 bluefin, cat back Milltek and Carbonio with ITG filter, HPFP worth doing??


Not on Superchips as they only request 110bar rail pressure unless it is a pump specific software.
Cheers mate  :happy2:
I might enquire with Superchips as to whether they can do a HPFP map for stage 1 then?
Title: Re: HPFP fitted.
Post by: Aparoon on March 06, 2010, 02:25:30 pm
Why not just buy a downpipe and stop being soo cheap  :P

It's only another £500, hardly worth not doing  :stupid:
Title: Re: HPFP fitted.
Post by: gillm on March 06, 2010, 06:44:33 pm
ive now driven it and yeh there is defo more power mid range and upwards . great mod :)