MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: FrameSet on September 25, 2019, 07:25:35 pm
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Hi guys,
Its been a while since I've posted on here and have been on and off looking to change my Mk5 GTI for a while now.
In all honesty i don't think you can beat it within its price range, but am wondering for you people still on here that have moved on from a mk5; What did you go for next?!
Other than an R32 or going to an edition 30 I can't find a better option without doubling the cost comparing to what Mk5 GTI's are going for now.
Cheers :drinking:
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And here’s an up to date picture of mine seeing as I haven’t been on here in ages!
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What are your reasons for changing the mk5? Those should give you some guidance on your next car, faster, bigger, etc.
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Cupra 280 for me. Great sound in Cupra mode, more torque, Golf R motor and turbo and arguably looks better than the Golf R. Need one with bucket seats as well.
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What are your reasons for changing the mk5? Those should give you some guidance on your next car, faster, bigger, etc.
This. Without knowing what your priorities and budget are, you won’t get decent answers. Your ideal car could be anything between a Boxster and a Landcruiser, with a Merc S Class in between!
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I've just started to look at either a a45AMG or, opposite, a model 3 tesla. I really don't want to get rid of the ed30, I may keep as a weekend/track-car, but I hardly use a car now it will be a waste to keep both.
I'm not in a rush to change, just an itch that need scratching.
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I went for an A5. Loved it but had to revert back to 5 doors so now currently in a MK6 GTD
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I went for a Porsche Cayenne S and gave my mark 5 GTI to my wife, I wanted something bigger and liked the mark 5 too much to sell. It took me a long to decide what to replace the mark 5 with because they are hard to beat for the money.
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And here’s an up to date picture of mine seeing as I haven’t been on here in ages!
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Can I have first dibs on the Speedlines if you sell it? :happy2:
I considered upgrading to a MK7.5 (R or GTI PP) a while ago but test drives left me underwhelmed. The perceived quality is definitely an improvement on the MK5, but the driving dynamics are worse. Trains and cruise ships have more steering feel! You can modify the hell out of MK7s but the base platform has to be significant jump up from the previous model before I sign on the dotted line, and it just isn't....imo.
As for other cars, it depends on your parking space, daily commutes, performance and handling requirements, seating requirements etc etc. Golfs do it all so well, hence why they get under your skin so much and are consequently so hard to move on from :smiley:
Maybe LS swap an E46 M3. Give it some torque and piss off the purists :grin:
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I faced this dilemma about a year ago with my ED30 as had it for just over 2 years and for a few reasons just felt I wanted something different so i sold the car.
I then spent a few months thinking what do I want and with a combination of nothing else out there for similar price that performs or looks as good and not actually knowing why I wanted to change I ended up tracking down my old car an buying it back.
I now have it as a weekend car as do not really need it for work and so happy I got it back.
Think hard why you want to change as may regret it, I would say upgrade to the ED30 as it does feel totally different to a GTI but you may still find it not enough of a change to scratch that itch
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I plan on keeping mine long term. If I had to replace it today, I'd probably look for a 6R. A Clubsport 40 would be nice but I don't want to spend £15-20k on a car. I'm not that keen on 7R's prefer the looks of the GTI.
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My next car after MK5 was a Saab 93 Vector, that was a monster car, going very fast but it was consuming a lot of fuel, I was spending half of my income per week only for this car... Then I decided to change the car and I bought a new RS5, at least it was worth to spend money for it and my income got bigger at that time. I bought it from another state and found a cool company called https://www.shipaa.com/ (https://www.shipaa.com/) that brought it to me very fast. Then I sold my Saab and sent it also with that company.
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I think I may be heading in the direction of an AMG A45S next year.
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After mine probably a leon Cupra 280 ish or a megane 250. Won’t be for a while though.
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I haven't moved on yet...still driving the same MK5 since Nov '06. But it will most likely be a MK7 or newer Golf R. Unless I suddenly get an increase in disability and can afford an RS3.
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I sold my ED30 and bought myself an M4 :happy2:
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I sold my ED30 and bought myself an M4 :happy2:
Respect!! Good choice!
For me if possible next will be a Cupra Mk3 or GTI MK7 PP.
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No plans as yet. Might get another RX7 as a weekend car, wish I'd never sold mine as they've shot up in value .
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I'm keeping the ED30 until full electric cars are more affordable/feasible, because let's face it, petrol and diesel are done. Nothing beats the accelerative forces and cleanliness of full electric.
German cars have become so generic and bland, with the same corporate template buttered across every bl00dy car they make, which have absolutely zero charisma or ownership appeal. They're just over-priced boutique Gucci handbags now. Such a shame really as BMW and Audi used to make some properly good cars.
Over the next 10-15 years, I predict a big market in electric conversions because there are simply too many cars to 'scrap'. Every ICE car is already well prepared for electric conversion. Motors in place of the engine and battery pack in place of the fuel tank.
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I think I’d get an RS3 if they were more reasonably priced but they do divide opinions.
They are a bit mundane looking but sound fantastic, not worth the premium though in my opinion.
The M cars are nice but I’m not that attracted to high power Rwd.
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Probably the new BMW 1 series with an engine focused more on economy than power. I think the Ed30 will be my last 300+ bhp car, too many mobile speed cameras and average speed cameras around now. Having had a Mk7.5 R before the Ed30 and after seeing the Mk8 Golf in the flesh I definitely won't be getting another Golf.
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I have had a few people tell me they had either loved or wish they had never sold their mk5 gti. I think they are a hard one to move on from.
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Easy decision for me I'm afraid, BMW 335D or 340I MSport Shadow Edt estate.
Would sell both my MK7 R and the MK5 at the same time to fund the purchase but having come from a 330D I miss nearly dying every time it rains and smack me for saying this but as far as newer cars go from personal experience they are pretty reliable/tough as old boots.
Need something practical, comfortable, reasonable on running costs and f**ing fast to replace both.
Throw in the MK8 looks like arse and is built worse than a KIA I'm gonna say with a degree of confidence that the current pair will be my last venture into Volkswagen. Unless work offer me a dirt cheap Touareg 286 on lease :) chance should be a fine thing ...
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I'm keeping the ED30 until full electric cars are more affordable/feasible, because let's face it, petrol and diesel are done. Nothing beats the accelerative forces and cleanliness of full electric.
German cars have become so generic and bland, with the same corporate template buttered across every bl00dy car they make, which have absolutely zero charisma or ownership appeal. They're just over-priced boutique Gucci handbags now. Such a shame really as BMW and Audi used to make some properly good cars.
Over the next 10-15 years, I predict a big market in electric conversions because there are simply too many cars to 'scrap'. Every ICE car is already well prepared for electric conversion. Motors in place of the engine and battery pack in place of the fuel tank.
I’m the same.
My Pirelli will hopefully be my last Petrol powered daily before a full electric car.
We currently have 2 x MK5’s as our daily’s, (with the last 5 of 6 cars all being MK5 platform cars).
Good looks, great performance and easy upgrade to CarPlay etc means that for this kind of money they can’t be beaten.
Unless I wanted to buy a MK7.5 PP/ 140M I can’t see anything else I’d fancy, and I just don’t see the smiles vs £‘s beating what I get from my MK5
An electric conversion MK5 would be great too, although it would have to offer similar performance to a K04 powered MK5 to consider it
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I'm keeping the ED30 until full electric cars are more affordable/feasible, because let's face it, petrol and diesel are done. Nothing beats the accelerative forces and cleanliness of full electric.
German cars have become so generic and bland, with the same corporate template buttered across every bl00dy car they make, which have absolutely zero charisma or ownership appeal. They're just over-priced boutique Gucci handbags now. Such a shame really as BMW and Audi used to make some properly good cars.
Over the next 10-15 years, I predict a big market in electric conversions because there are simply too many cars to 'scrap'. Every ICE car is already well prepared for electric conversion. Motors in place of the engine and battery pack in place of the fuel tank.
I’m the same.
My Pirelli will hopefully be my last Petrol powered daily before a full electric car.
We currently have 2 x MK5’s as our daily’s, (with the last 5 of 6 cars all being MK5 platform cars).
Good looks, great performance and easy upgrade to CarPlay etc means that for this kind of money they can’t be beaten.
Unless I wanted to buy a MK7.5 PP/ 140M I can’t see anything else I’d fancy, and I just don’t see the smiles vs £‘s beating what I get from my MK5
An electric conversion MK5 would be great too, although it would have to offer similar performance to a K04 powered MK5 to consider it
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The only thing preventing long term MK5 ownership is rust unfortunately, but quite honestly, there is nothing out there I would trade my ED30 in for - obvious lottery win cars aside.
That isn't down to nostalgia or bias, but just nothing appeals to me in the marketplace at the moment.
You could break down many options and try to justify them to yourself, but how much of it is just down to boredom? How much faster point-to-point, realistically, is a £50K modern hatch compared to a GTI? Probably mere seconds. Worth all that outlay for that? God no.
The only cars that have piqued my interest in the last few years is the Supra and one of the fast Teslas, P100D or something......but I don't like either enough to part with that sort of money.
Maybe a modest advancement to a MK6 R, or even a MK7 R if you can stomach the blandness of it's styling? Still familiar cars like a comfy old couch that's been in the family for years, but with some extra accoutrements.
An electric converted MK5 would be a LOT faster than a petrol one with the right components, plus you can fit a motor at each end for 4WD.
The government have made a pledge to ban all fossil fuel cars (new sales) from 2030, which leaves millions of cars either destined for one massive, inconceivable, unmanageable scrap heap - or conversion to electric. I can't see that 2030 ban sticking to be honest. I think it's just virtue signalling. They have put zero thought into the MAHOOOOSIVE electrical demands on the power stations, and about the same lack of thought into the thousands of charging stations required.
Anyway, keep the GTI. It's more than capable of sticking with modern stuff and putting a smile on your face :happy2:
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The government plan on banning cars that only burn fossil fuels by 2030 which as you said I can't see that happening myself tbh, we don't have the infrastructure to do that right now but it may mean a huge increase in fuel prices, its a massive shame really but electric cars have come on leaps and bounds but I still don't think they are going to be practical for long journeys, I personally think it's a money making scheme to get people to buy in to electric cars and if you need to go on a long journey your only choice then is to use public transport, ie train or a long haul coach bcos your electric car will not make it on a single charge, or as we're all petrol heads here probably not even to the boundarys of your county if your giving it some😂, I've only owned my mk5 for just over a year but its been laid up in a garage for months as covid has f*cked my life up so much I haven't been able to drive it, it's probably the best car I've owned, I've had mk4 gti's, civic type r, a mk1 land rover discovery (don't get me started on that) mk5 is by far the best all round car I have ever owned and I would have loved an edition 30 like yours but my budget just couldn't stretch that far
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I'm keeping the ED30 until full electric cars are more affordable/feasible, because let's face it, petrol and diesel are done. Nothing beats the accelerative forces and cleanliness of full electric.
German cars have become so generic and bland, with the same corporate template buttered across every bl00dy car they make, which have absolutely zero charisma or ownership appeal. They're just over-priced boutique Gucci handbags now. Such a shame really as BMW and Audi used to make some properly good cars.
Over the next 10-15 years, I predict a big market in electric conversions because there are simply too many cars to 'scrap'. Every ICE car is already well prepared for electric conversion. Motors in place of the engine and battery pack in place of the fuel tank.
I’m the same.
My Pirelli will hopefully be my last Petrol powered daily before a full electric car.
We currently have 2 x MK5’s as our daily’s, (with the last 5 of 6 cars all being MK5 platform cars).
Good looks, great performance and easy upgrade to CarPlay etc means that for this kind of money they can’t be beaten.
Unless I wanted to buy a MK7.5 PP/ 140M I can’t see anything else I’d fancy, and I just don’t see the smiles vs £‘s beating what I get from my MK5
An electric conversion MK5 would be great too, although it would have to offer similar performance to a K04 powered MK5 to consider it
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The only thing preventing long term MK5 ownership is rust unfortunately, but quite honestly, there is nothing out there I would trade my ED30 in for - obvious lottery win cars aside.
That isn't down to nostalgia or bias, but just nothing appeals to me in the marketplace at the moment.
You could break down many options and try to justify them to yourself, but how much of it is just down to boredom? How much faster point-to-point, realistically, is a £50K modern hatch compared to a GTI? Probably mere seconds. Worth all that outlay for that? God no.
The only cars that have piqued my interest in the last few years is the Supra and one of the fast Teslas, P100D or something......but I don't like either enough to part with that sort of money.
Maybe a modest advancement to a MK6 R, or even a MK7 R if you can stomach the blandness of it's styling? Still familiar cars like a comfy old couch that's been in the family for years, but with some extra accoutrements.
An electric converted MK5 would be a LOT faster than a petrol one with the right components, plus you can fit a motor at each end for 4WD.
The government have made a pledge to ban all fossil fuel cars (new sales) from 2030, which leaves millions of cars either destined for one massive, inconceivable, unmanageable scrap heap - or conversion to electric. I can't see that 2030 ban sticking to be honest. I think it's just virtue signalling. They have put zero thought into the MAHOOOOSIVE electrical demands on the power stations, and about the same lack of thought into the thousands of charging stations required.
Anyway, keep the GTI. It's more than capable of sticking with modern stuff and putting a smile on your face :happy2:
Always like your views Pudding. I have had the inner wheel arches, door panels and boot lid panels off and Dinitroled the life out of my gti. It has only done 65k and I get the oil changed every 5k miles as I do not think there is a better option for me as a daily 60 mile a day driver.
There is also a lot to be said for a car that does cost a fortune which means you can enjoy putting miles on it and not have to worry too much about where you park it as I know a fair few people with new £30k plus cars that worry about them too much to enjoy them to their full.
I also have a classic 911 for weekends and that has helped me not get bored with the gti. I guess some people may miss the status of a more expensive car but that really is a losing battle as there is always going to be someone that has a better car than you and I also think the mk5 gti is classless as you only have to walk around the back streets of Chelsea and Knightsbridge to see them parked up outside the £2 million houses.
I do sometimes think about a mk7 gti but unless ULEZ changes in London to make the mk5 a chargeable car I will be sticking with what I know and love.
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Timpy X - you're not wrong fella. It's always the way isn't it. Force something onto the public and fix the ignored/unforseen consequences afterwards.
What makes me laugh is the bullsh1t range of electric cars quoted by manufacturers. We've moved from ridiculously optimistic mpg figures for fossil fuelled cars to even more ridiculous electric car ranges :grin: Case in point - VW ID3 with the 56KWH battery. VW/WLTP quote of 261 mile range, reality = 180ish miles :grin:
What electric car pushers aren't telling the general public is - they are woefully uneconomical over winter and on motorways. Cold temperatures and high speed annihilates battery life.....plus HVAC etc on top of that :doh:
As amusing and accelerative as electric cars are, they are nowhere near viable as a replacement to fossil fuelled cars, unless you are a 100% city dweller. People are too accustomed to pulling over, filling up in 5 minutes, grabbing a Ginsters pasty and carrying on with their journey. Who wants to queue for a Supercharger space and then sit there for an hour, minimum, refuelling a battery? Sod that. Well, I suppose you could kill that hour by shagging yours or someone else's missus in the back seat, but if you're on a business meeting and need to be places.....it just doesn't work!
Home charging overnight is pretty much useless as well unless you pay a lot of money to the National Grid for a high voltage circuit.
OldGTI - Glad to hear you're a diligent chap :happy2: There's no reason why a GTI shouldn't last well past 200K if you put the preventative maintenance in.
As you say, driving enjoyment and carefree ownership are important factors as enthusiasts. A few years ago, there was no way I would ever buy a Golf R or a BMW 140i as hooded hoodlums would almost be guaranteed to bust your back door in looking for the keys. Who needs that kind of anxiety over a car?
That's where a nice MK5 slots in quite nicely. It's off the thieves radar being low value and slow (by current standards, for a getaway car) and the wider public ignore it because it's not some stupid, obnoxious, boutique, crass and pointless SUV that everyone has a hard-on for these days. It just merely exists for those in the know, which is great :happy2: It's 80% of a newer Golf and 100% classless, as you say :happy2:
It still makes me chuckle when some compost salesman in his Audi A4 diesel tries to push me and my 13 year old Golf out of the way.....ha.....try that again fella :grin:
What age 911 do you have sir? If it's a classic, I'm guessing 964 or older? I drove a 993 3.6 VarioRam (widebody import) many moons ago and to me, it felt like the metaphorical glove. Perfectly sized and powered for quick UK B road progress. The steering feel and structural integrity were something else. 911s are very stout cars :happy2:
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Just popped into my local main dealer to have a look at the new mk8 GTi. Is uglier in the flesh than the photos.
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I went for an X4 M40i. Still got my ed30 though not sure I can ever part with my baby !
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OldGTI - Glad to hear you're a diligent chap :happy2: There's no reason why a GTI shouldn't last well past 200K if you put the preventative maintenance in.
As you say, driving enjoyment and carefree ownership are important factors as enthusiasts. A few years ago, there was no way I would ever buy a Golf R or a BMW 140i as hooded hoodlums would almost be guaranteed to bust your back door in looking for the keys. Who needs that kind of anxiety over a car?
That's where a nice MK5 slots in quite nicely. It's off the thieves radar being low value and slow (by current standards, for a getaway car) and the wider public ignore it because it's not some stupid, obnoxious, boutique, crass and pointless SUV that everyone has a hard-on for these days. It just merely exists for those in the know, which is great :happy2: It's 80% of a newer Golf and 100% classless, as you say :happy2:
It still makes me chuckle when some compost salesman in his Audi A4 diesel tries to push me and my 13 year old Golf out of the way.....ha.....try that again fella :grin:
What age 911 do you have sir? If it's a classic, I'm guessing 964 or older? I drove a 993 3.6 VarioRam (widebody import) many moons ago and to me, it felt like the metaphorical glove. Perfectly sized and powered for quick UK B road progress. The steering feel and structural integrity were something else. 911s are very stout cars :happy2:
I have a 1989 911 speedster which I love.
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I do like a classic Porsche as they were made so well that you can leave them for 6 months, connect the battery and know it is going to get you all the way to somewhere like Le Mans classic and back without any issues.
I have not driven a 993 but used to have a 930 LE and I just sold my 968 so I am a fan. I think one of the reasons a like the gti is because of the Porsche type checked seats :).
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Very nice :happy2: Silver with black/polished Fuchs wheels. Doesn't get much better than that :happy2:
This isn't the 993 I was talking about, but exactly like it. Very nice to drive and feels like it was milled from a solid block of steel. You have to remember not to hug the racing line too tightly with the rear wheels sticking so far out :grin:
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Lovely car @OldGTI (https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=58101) and a great investment also. A friend back in Jersey had one 30 years ago, white with navy hood. That looks like St Katharine’s dock?
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Lovely car @OldGTI (https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=58101) and a great investment also. A friend back in Jersey had one 30 years ago, white with navy hood. That looks like St Katharine’s dock?
Thanks mate, I do love it. It is Limehouse Basin I used to have a flat there so not a million miles away from St Katharine’s.
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Lovely car @OldGTI (https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=58101) and a great investment also. A friend back in Jersey had one 30 years ago, white with navy hood. That looks like St Katharine’s dock?
Thanks mate, I do love it. It is Limehouse Basin I used to have a flat there so not a million miles away from St Katharine’s.
Glad you enjoy and I’m sure it’s been a great investment too. I sold both my e30 m3 and 964rs long before their values zoomed but not to worry lol
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Lovely car @OldGTI (https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=58101) and a great investment also. A friend back in Jersey had one 30 years ago, white with navy hood. That looks like St Katharine’s dock?
Thanks mate, I do love it. It is Limehouse Basin I used to have a flat there so not a million miles away from St Katharine’s.
Glad you enjoy and I’m sure it’s been a great investment too. I sold both my e30 m3 and 964rs long before their values zoomed but not to worry lol
Been there done that mate. Sold my 35k mile 930LE for £42k it went on to sell for £160k a few years later: https://silverstoneauctions.com/events/2015-auctions/the-silverstone-classic-sale-2015/the-silverstone-classic-sale-2015-sale/the-silverstone-classic-sale-2015-sale-session/1989-porsche-911-930-turbo-le but it is easy to be a general after the war.
Anyway back to the gti I have to say I love it as a daily I have upgraded the head-unit to an RDS330 so have Waze on the big screen and could not be happier. I am not the only one my pal drove my little gti and was so impressed he sold his 997 and got a Jap import Pirelli which he loves.
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Yeah, I’m in a similar boat with the GTi - does most stuff well and is really all the car we need. After 15 years ownership (and only 32k miles), I’m getting an itch for something new and shiny though I do agree that a modern head-unit with carplay does update it quite usefully. Maybe will keep it and run something like a boxster gts on the side.
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I'm coming at this topic from a slightly different angle having reluctantly selling my GTI earlier in the year. The circumstances at the time are now behind me thankfully and I do really miss the MK5, so much so that I am currently looking for another. They really are great all round cars.
Lovely 911 by the way @OldGTI (https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=58101)