MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: chimp400 on March 04, 2020, 09:22:46 am
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I've just purchased a 2008 Edition 30 and am very happy with it overall.
Previous owner had some Eibach sportline springs fitted which I was told drop it by 30 mm.
Although I like the stance it's a bit crashy for my liking, I'm aware the original dampers may be tired at 86000.miles.
I wanted to know which suspension kit offers the most compliant ride for everyday crappy Road use and no track work. I tend to drive like a granny most of the time!
I will probably buy the matched kit of springs and dampers.
I will add an image when I work out how to do it to display the ride height.
Thanks in advance.
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The racing line sports kit (dampers and springs) could be a good option for you as they are pretty compliant and handle well up-to 7/10 driving.
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looks good value, im guessing its this one?
https://www.awesomegti.com/shop-by-brand/racingline-performance/racingline-performance-spring-and-damper-kit-golf-mk5/
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Yes, that’s the one. I have been running it for @ 3.5 years and it’s a decent set up for daily driving. More composed and less crashy than stock. Think OEM+ type upgrade.
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I'm not familiar with the Golf set up but is it just the front top mounts that would need doing too?
Just trying to work out the budget for her indoors!
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That would make sense. Plus a wheel alignment afterwards.
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The H&R Cup kit is always a popular choice and worth considering.
Damian @ DPM Performance
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I'm not familiar with the Golf set up but is it just the front top mounts that would need doing too?
Just trying to work out the budget for her indoors!
you could change the rear top mounts and bump stops also
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If it's crashy, the original dampers are tired. The factory setup is soft springs with stiff damping, so aftermarket springs (usually twice the spring rate) soon kill off ageing OEM dampers.
Even when new they never rode like a Bentley, but there shouldn't be any excessive crashiness or wallowing on fast B roads. So you could try a set of new OEM dampers (don't use cheap patterns) or get a kit like the ones suggested.
There's no such thing as the perfect setup though. The majority of people don't drive the car on a wide enough variety of roads to build a full picture, so spec the suspension to suit your daily driving. i.e. stiff if the roads are smooth, and soft if they're sh1te.
I would recommend, in order of tastiness:
Cheese sandwich OEM dampers with new OEM or mild spring uprate.
Ham and mustard sandwich Racingline kit if you want daily smoothness at a moderate pace.
Beef and Horseradish sandwich Bilstein B12 if you want to dial it up a notch on the B roads.
Premium fillet steak adjustable damping coilovers if you want the best of all worlds.
Obviously the price of these will differ drastically depending on brand, spec and lifespan expectancy.
I've tried all of the options and I went with fillet steak and haven't looked back. 90% of a suspension kit is all about feel rather than improving outright cornering speeds, since that is governed by tyre width and compound, but if the new suspension makes you feel more confident, you can push it harder......which is where the faster cornering comes from :happy2:
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I see little point in binning the current eibach springs to be honest even if they do sit a little lower than I would choose normally.
Maybe a set of racing line or blistein dampers would be a good compromise in the future.
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My Pirelli edition is definitely getting a bit tired on the suspension front. I'm considering an upgrade this year.
Tbh the OEM+ idea of the racing line kit is tempting. Full coilovers probably being over budget and over kill for what I want
Can anyone give me an idea on how much this kind of mod affects insurance? It's on my mind at the minute because an sp30 has just increased my premium by 25%!!
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I’m with Greenlight Insurance and they only increase the premium for mods which add power. Upgrades to brakes and suspension go for free.
Another option for the suspension might be the Relentless coilovers which appear to be relabelled BC Racing. They seem to have good fb for road use and are fully adjustable.
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Anyone fitted Stance coilovers?
Too cheap to be any good......?
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If it's crashy, the original dampers are tired.
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I see little point in binning the current eibach springs to be honest even if they do sit a little lower than I would choose normally.
I have had Eibach springs on a few cars, they are good quality, I would even say they are a bit soft.
Unless something has changed recently, Koni kits come with Eibach springs, look into Koni fixed dampers to fit with the current springs - just another option to add to the many already given
I’m with Greenlight Insurance and they only increase the premium for mods which add power. Upgrades to brakes and suspension go for free.
Interesting insurance info - have "they" as an industry given up checking?
My other VW is on a specialised modified policy, pretty much anything goes, they only get interested if you add over 25% power
Another option for the suspension might be the Relentless coilovers which appear to be relabelled BC Racing. They seem to have good fb for road use and are fully adjustable.
Note the OP is not interested in track work - Fully adjustable is very nice to have - but it is another complication that can go wrong and if your not track daying, will you really use it?
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Another option for the suspension might be the Relentless coilovers which appear to be relabelled BC Racing. They seem to have good fb for road use and are fully adjustable.
Note the OP is not interested in track work - Fully adjustable is very nice to have - but it is another complication that can go wrong and if your not track daying, will you really use it?
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Once again, “good fb for road use”...set and forget.
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Did you upgrade your top mounts or just go standard?
I’d rather look more toward comfort than outright handling or is the difference negligible?
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The H&R Cup kit is always a popular choice and worth considering.
Damian @ DPM Performance
Hi mate , how do you rate the ap suspension spring and shock kit , looking to lower a smaller amount like 20-30mm, dont want a harsh ride as it's my daily and quite often car is full with the kids and the wife so rubbing could become an issue if I go too low hence why I've been trying to find out a bit more about this kit, seems great value at 328 , would I retain the ride quality I have now, I dont mind a little firmer but not crash. cheers, alyn
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Did you upgrade your top mounts or just go standard?
I’d rather look more toward comfort than outright handling or is the difference negligible?
Get the TTRS top mount kit from AKS. You don't want to fit OEM GTI ones with stiffer springs/dampers. They creak and groan over speed humps etc.
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My Pirelli edition is definitely getting a bit tired on the suspension front. I'm considering an upgrade this year.
Tbh the OEM+ idea of the racing line kit is tempting. Full coilovers probably being over budget and over kill for what I want
Can anyone give me an idea on how much this kind of mod affects insurance? It's on my mind at the minute because an sp30 has just increased my premium by 25%!!
Confused.com now includes modifications. I ticked "Chipped 10-25%", "Uprated brakes", "Suspension lowered 10-25mm" and the amount of big name insurers that would cover it surprised me, and at decent prices. For example, £281 from LV. Not bad at all for a remapped ED30 on coilovers and Clubsport S front brakes.
5 years ago the big names wouldn't touch mods with a barge pole and you had to ring the niche brokers like Flux, Greenlight, Brentacre etc to get a quote, which is tedious and repetitive. But mods are so common place nowadays, they had to grab some of that market. Even dealer and factory lowering and additional power options caused some insurance headaches, but not anymore :happy2:
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My Pirelli edition is definitely getting a bit tired on the suspension front. I'm considering an upgrade this year.
Tbh the OEM+ idea of the racing line kit is tempting. Full coilovers probably being over budget and over kill for what I want
Can anyone give me an idea on how much this kind of mod affects insurance? It's on my mind at the minute because an sp30 has just increased my premium by 25%!!
Confused.com now includes modifications. I ticked "Chipped 10-25%", "Uprated brakes", "Suspension lowered 10-25mm" and the amount of big name insurers that would cover it surprised me, and at decent prices. For example, £281 from LV. Not bad at all for a remapped ED30 on coilovers and Clubsport S front brakes.
5 years ago the big names wouldn't touch mods with a barge pole and you had to ring the niche brokers like Flux, Greenlight, Brentacre etc to get a quote, which is tedious and repetitive. But mods are so common place nowadays, they had to grab some of that market. Even dealer and factory lowering and additional power options caused some insurance headaches, but not anymore :happy2:
Good to know! Im jealous of your insurance price though! I'm 32 with 10 years NCB and a standard Pirelli Edition - 3 points for an SP30 and the best price I can get is £530! :(
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So I decided to go with the vw racingline kit and am very impressed so far.
Stance is perfect, not too low and ride quality although still firm feels a lot more compliant than standard.
The Eibach sportlines on standard dampers were too crashy for my liking, and sat a little too low even if it did look good.
I upgraded the front top mounts and replaced the rear top mounts and spring rubbers to do a thorough job.
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Glad you like the recommendation Chimp!
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The H&R Cup kit is always a popular choice and worth considering.
Damian @ DPM Performance
Hi mate , how do you rate the ap suspension spring and shock kit , looking to lower a smaller amount like 20-30mm, dont want a harsh ride as it's my daily and quite often car is full with the kids and the wife so rubbing could become an issue if I go too low hence why I've been trying to find out a bit more about this kit, seems great value at 328 , would I retain the ride quality I have now, I dont mind a little firmer but not crash. cheers, alyn
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They're made by KW in Germany so good quality kit for the money.
Damian @ DPM Performance