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Title: Cambelt change - second time?
Post by: TagnuT on March 07, 2010, 06:10:11 pm
I had my cambelt & water pump changed a few months ago. The car is only just 3 years old and has less than 30,000 mile under its belt.
Had a discussion with the service guy and a VW technician about when it should be done next. Their answer was in 1 year !!!  at 4 years old.
"Ye, but its only just been done......!" I said that was crazy  Is there a shorter interval after the cambelt has been changed?
Title: Re: Cambelt change - second time?
Post by: martziniuk on March 07, 2010, 07:24:13 pm
No there shouldn't be, he's just trying to get more cash outta you. Go somewhere else next time.
Title: Re: Cambelt change - second time?
Post by: bacillus on March 07, 2010, 07:35:13 pm
No there shouldn't be, he's just trying to get more cash outta you. Go somewhere else next time.

x2
Title: Re: Cambelt change - second time?
Post by: tommy1 on March 07, 2010, 08:23:43 pm
So when has everyone had there belt changed, mine is 4 years old done 25k, im thinking could be time for the 1st!
Title: Re: Cambelt change - second time?
Post by: big al on March 07, 2010, 09:16:37 pm
Mine is an 05 reg, 55 000 miles, and has not been done yet, going in next month when it has its service (not looking forward to the price though!)
Title: Re: Cambelt change - second time?
Post by: Andy on March 07, 2010, 09:18:34 pm
mine is a 54 plate on 39000 and got changed last year
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Post by: danishmkvgti on March 08, 2010, 04:32:13 am
56 plate changed last year after 160.000km  :star:
Title: Re: Cambelt change - second time?
Post by: webbygti on March 08, 2010, 07:12:47 am
mine is 05 with 56000 on it and is being done today before i pick it up tomrrow glad its being done by the garage before i get it so i dont have to pay !!!!
Title: Re: Cambelt change - second time?
Post by: FamilyDub on March 08, 2010, 10:41:43 am

A hotly debated topic. I think every 5 years/50 k miles is more than adequate.

Title: Re: Cambelt change - second time?
Post by: OEM+ DUB on March 08, 2010, 10:59:56 am
It looks like they might be trying to get more money out of you on the basis of the factory recommended cambelt interval which is 4 years or 40,000 miles (whichever is the sooner).

If it helps anyone else out there at the minute, I've recently had my cambelt and tensioner done by my local VW main dealers.  They honoured the special offer price that a relatively nearby Audi dealer is currently offering for any 4 cylinder VW, Audi, Skoda or Seat of £249 inc VAT, on their like-for-like quote matching (quote must be written and using genuine parts to qualify).

The Audi delaer also quoted £79 inc VAT to supply and fit a new water pump at the same time (for peace of mind) and £149 inc VAT for a DSG gearbox oil and filter service which my VW dealer also honoured.  All in £477 inc VAT - less that the original VW dealer quote for the cambelt and tensioner alone (£530!).

Naturally I was very pleased with this and I can now forget about cambelts and DSG services for the next 4 years...
Title: Re: Cambelt change - second time?
Post by: Garth on March 08, 2010, 01:59:56 pm
Mine is an 05 plate with 65k on it and it's not been done yet   :ashamed:

I really must get round to doing it......
Title: Re: Cambelt change - second time?
Post by: no golf clubs at all on March 08, 2010, 02:13:58 pm
05 (55) MY06, 43000, done at 37000 (ish)..........early in terms of time and miles, but I had the cash to do it, so I thought i would....

lot of nonsense talked about this subject, i tried VW 3 times and got 3 different answers, I tried 2 indys at both said different things. 4 years is the time, miles vary from 40k,60k to 120k!
Title: Re: Cambelt change - second time?
Post by: Garth on March 08, 2010, 02:26:22 pm
05 (55) MY06, 43000, done at 37000 (ish)..........early in terms of time and miles, but I had the cash to do it, so I thought i would....

lot of nonsense talked about this subject, i tried VW 3 times and got 3 different answers, I tried 2 indys at both said different things. 4 years is the time, miles vary from 40k,60k to 120k!
It's 120k miles according to my service schedule I have in front of me now. It's needs checked at 60k, then every 20k after that until replaced at 120k. It has NO time dependency on this job.
The other 4cyl petrol engines (not 2.0) need replacing at 80k
Title: Re: Cambelt change - second time?
Post by: tommy1 on March 08, 2010, 09:00:41 pm
05 (55) MY06, 43000, done at 37000 (ish)..........early in terms of time and miles, but I had the cash to do it, so I thought i would....

lot of nonsense talked about this subject, i tried VW 3 times and got 3 different answers, I tried 2 indys at both said different things. 4 years is the time, miles vary from 40k,60k to 120k!
It's 120k miles according to my service schedule I have in front of me now. It's needs checked at 60k, then every 20k after that until replaced at 120k. It has NO time dependency on this job.
The other 4cyl petrol engines (not 2.0) need replacing at 80k

interesting... what service schedule is this?

cheers
Title: Re: Cambelt change - second time?
Post by: ub7rm on March 08, 2010, 09:18:13 pm
05 (55) MY06, 43000, done at 37000 (ish)..........early in terms of time and miles, but I had the cash to do it, so I thought i would....

lot of nonsense talked about this subject, i tried VW 3 times and got 3 different answers, I tried 2 indys at both said different things. 4 years is the time, miles vary from 40k,60k to 120k!
It's 120k miles according to my service schedule I have in front of me now. It's needs checked at 60k, then every 20k after that until replaced at 120k. It has NO time dependency on this job.
The other 4cyl petrol engines (not 2.0) need replacing at 80k

interesting... what service schedule is this?

cheers

Thats the same as my book says - 05 plate GTI, think its MY04 and service book was printed in 2004 ...
Title: Re: Cambelt change - second time?
Post by: Ifti on March 09, 2010, 12:40:59 pm
Says the same in my book as well - at 120k miles, but to be checked at 60k.

Personally, I think the dealers are scare mongering in order to get more money out of us.
I'll probably get mine done at 4 years, or around 60k miles - whichever comes first.

My mate has an 05 GTI. He drives it HARD all the time. - Just had his belt changed at 65k, and had no worries at all.


I had my cambelt & water pump changed a few months ago. The car is only just 3 years old and has less than 30,000 mile under its belt.
Had a discussion with the service guy and a VW technician about when it should be done next. Their answer was in 1 year !!!  at 4 years old.
"Ye, but its only just been done......!" I said that was crazy  Is there a shorter interval after the cambelt has been changed?

I think it was your first person that screwed you over. This second dealer, who is saying it needs to be done at 4 years, is correct. You had your belt changed a little too early at the 3 year mark, and your miles are also too low to have had it done. Nevertheless, now that it has been done, the second dealer should accept that it doesnt need doing again.

Personally, I think you should be good for another 4 years (so when the car is 7 years old), or at around the 80k miles point.
Title: Re: Cambelt change - second time?
Post by: ub7rm on March 09, 2010, 04:03:28 pm
Common sense that the belt is changed in 4 year / 60k INTERVALS, not because the car is 4 years old  :stupid:

Does the second garage actually know its already been changed?
Title: Re: Cambelt change - second time?
Post by: docker1996 on March 09, 2010, 11:13:31 pm
Go to a specialist and get some unbiased independent views
Title: Re: Cambelt change - second time?
Post by: tommy1 on March 10, 2010, 10:59:08 pm
rite, now i am no expert on this matter but there is no reason why age should really affect the belt. the milage describes the amount of driving, therefore that is when the belt should be changed.

I appreciate that the amount of short trips could af

fect the belt wear but not to this extent. as i said my car has done 25k and is 4 years old... im sure it doesn't need changing really!

chears
Title: Re: Cambelt change - second time?
Post by: TOONARMY on March 11, 2010, 07:58:45 am
You must of spoken to a monkey mate. Cambelt is due every 4 years or 80,000 miles which ever comes first. Seeing as you have it replaced already, it will be 4 years/80,000 miles from that  date/mileage. Ok i can see the question of "why does age matter" the reason is VW never used to put a age on the cambelts, but found they were snapping at lowish mileages. The reason for the 4 years is that the cambelt is a rubber component and over a period of time will perish even if the car is parked up in a garage for the majority of its life. The reason for perishing is moisture gets to the belt and perishes the rubber, this inturn will slowly weaken the belt. The most amount of strain is put upon the belt when the car is started.

toon
Title: Re: Cambelt change - second time?
Post by: Robert74 on March 11, 2010, 09:32:17 pm
I have just had my cam.belt and water pump done. My car is 4 years old and has done 26k. I phoned every dealer in the area and they all said it should be done every 4 years regardless of mileage. I had mine done by a VW specialist not the dealer.
Title: Re: Cambelt change - second time?
Post by: tommy1 on March 14, 2010, 04:19:38 pm
You must of spoken to a monkey mate. Cambelt is due every 4 years or 80,000 miles which ever comes first. Seeing as you have it replaced already, it will be 4 years/80,000 miles from that  date/mileage. Ok i can see the question of "why does age matter" the reason is VW never used to put a age on the cambelts, but found they were snapping at lowish mileages. The reason for the 4 years is that the cambelt is a rubber component and over a period of time will perish even if the car is parked up in a garage for the majority of its life. The reason for perishing is moisture gets to the belt and perishes the rubber, this inturn will slowly weaken the belt. The most amount of strain is put upon the belt when the car is started.

toon

Ok i hold my hands high, that does make sense! i just didn't think of that when buying such a young car (in terms of milage)
Title: Re: Cambelt change - second time?
Post by: mclovin on March 15, 2010, 02:21:34 pm
If it helps anyone else out there at the minute, I've recently had my cambelt and tensioner done by my local VW main dealers.  They honoured the special offer price that a relatively nearby Audi dealer is currently offering for any 4 cylinder VW, Audi, Skoda or Seat of £249 inc VAT, on their like-for-like quote matching (quote must be written and using genuine parts to qualify).

The Audi delaer also quoted £79 inc VAT to supply and fit a new water pump at the same time (for peace of mind) and £149 inc VAT for a DSG gearbox oil and filter service which my VW dealer also honoured.  All in £477 inc VAT - less that the original VW dealer quote for the cambelt and tensioner alone (£530!).

Naturally I was very pleased with this and I can now forget about cambelts and DSG services for the next 4 years...

I've just been quoted £725 for the cam belt and the DSG oil change (Not including thw water pump) from Windrush in Maidenhead. Yes, £725! Oh, and the engine needs a software update, another £25 and the door seals have perished on both saides so that'll be another £270 +VAT please. Add in the service price (£225) and that's £1,245 for a four year/40,000 mile service - That's Ferrari money to service a VW, bloody outrageous!

Anyway, I'll gladly jump at that £477 special offer price, where did you get that done?
Title: Re: Cambelt change - second time?
Post by: Leebo310 on November 27, 2013, 02:35:48 pm
05 (55) MY06, 43000, done at 37000 (ish)..........early in terms of time and miles, but I had the cash to do it, so I thought i would....

lot of nonsense talked about this subject, i tried VW 3 times and got 3 different answers, I tried 2 indys at both said different things. 4 years is the time, miles vary from 40k,60k to 120k!
It's 120k miles according to my service schedule I have in front of me now. It's needs checked at 60k, then every 20k after that until replaced at 120k. It has NO time dependency on this job.
The other 4cyl petrol engines (not 2.0) need replacing at 80k

Apologies for digging up an old thread but is there any reason why the interval was changed so drastically to what's written in the service book?
Mine also says every 120k, mentions nothing about the 4 years but the dealer is trying to tell me that VW UK recommendation is now 4 years, regardless of mileage.

Title: Re: Cambelt change - second time?
Post by: Gman30 on November 27, 2013, 04:44:19 pm
I've got a 2007 Edition 30 and my belt and pump where changed at 41k car now sits on 69k.

I was thinking I need to get it done again pretty sharpish but after reading the comments on here I'm not so sure?


What you thinking my fellow nutters!

No offence intended!!

 :wink:


Title: Re: Cambelt change - second time?
Post by: Gman30 on November 27, 2013, 04:45:54 pm
I've got a 2007 Edition 30 and my belt and pump where changed at 41k car now sits on 69k.

I was thinking I need to get it done again pretty sharpish but after reading the comments on here I'm not so sure?


What you thinking my fellow nutters!

No offence intended!!

 :wink:




Think I need to add, it was changed mid 2011!

 :smiley:
Title: Re: Cambelt change - second time?
Post by: Tortaruga on November 27, 2013, 06:16:47 pm
^^^It's due every 4 years or every 60k miles.
Title: Re: Cambelt change - second time?
Post by: Leebo310 on November 29, 2013, 11:45:28 am
^^^It's due every 4 years or every 60k miles.

Where are you getting that from mate? Like I said, my service book says 120k with no time limit. VW themselves say yep 4 years but didn't say another mileage.
Not being funny, just curious really as the views on this seem to vary massively for such an important part!
Title: Re: Cambelt change - second time?
Post by: Frodo-anni on November 29, 2013, 12:03:40 pm
4 years or 60k.

I now own TagnuT's old eddie and its not been done since it was changed under warranty as he previously stated. It will be 4 years this december since it was done, so its getting changed along with waterpump/service/Mot just before christmas, at 56k at VW all in for £500.
Title: Re: Cambelt change - second time?
Post by: john87 on November 29, 2013, 12:10:25 pm
As others have said, every 4 years or 60k was what I was told by an Indy VAG specialist...
Title: Re: Cambelt change - second time?
Post by: Jakesangel on November 29, 2013, 12:36:59 pm
We bought our '56 plate MK5 Gti in April this year with 44k on the clock. As a result of all the good advice offered here we decided to replace the cambelt and water pump together with a major service including a DSG service as well. It was done by VGS UK (Croydon/ Addington area)and we were charged £780-00 which included collection and delivery off the car. Cant recommend them highly enough, excellent service. Whilst the car was there we were advised that a few other bits would need doing shortly so we got those done as well just to be safe, at extra cost obviously. :happy2:
Title: Re: Cambelt change - second time?
Post by: Leebo310 on November 29, 2013, 01:54:10 pm
Any idea why does the service book says 120k then?

I'd have thought the majority of mk5 owners aren't members on here and just go off their service book for the intervals so to be that drastically wrong is pretty bad isn't it?!?

I've been quoted £500 from VW for everything so not too bad but just curious as to why the service book is so different.
Title: Re: Cambelt change - second time?
Post by: paulw123 on November 29, 2013, 03:50:11 pm
When I got my MK5 I looked at cam belt change in handbook, oh its a gt tdi. I had a Mk4 gt tdi for 10yrs previously and it was 80,000. Now the Mk5 handbook stated 100,000 , so I thought that's good they have increased it. But on checking with dealer, it had gone back to the MK4 5yrs 80,000 miles.
So I'm guessing VW changed their minds and went back to shorter mileages after some failures in the real world???
Title: Re: Cambelt change - second time?
Post by: ukdub on November 29, 2013, 06:11:01 pm
I've had 3 done with the car on 142k