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Title: Ecp cambelt kit and water pump ok?
Post by: Pistol pete on May 29, 2020, 03:59:39 pm
As above I need to do my cam belt and water pump
My nephew works at euros. So he can do me a dayco cambelt kit circoli water pump, oil filter and oil discount.
These parts okay to use?

Where best place to get the stretch bolt replacements from?
Thanks
Pete
Title: Re: Ecp cambelt kit and water pump ok?
Post by: terrier on May 29, 2020, 05:41:32 pm
No experience of DAYCO. Id rather spend my money on oem especially with something so important.
Title: Re: Ecp cambelt kit and water pump ok?
Post by: pudding on May 29, 2020, 07:41:40 pm
Yes on the Continental kit, no to everything else.  Dealer or Continental.  Not worth chancing anything else to save a few pennies.  A few more bucks on a premium kit, or a few thousand on a new engine......your choice  :smiley:
Title: Re: Ecp cambelt kit and water pump ok?
Post by: rich83 on May 29, 2020, 10:23:23 pm
INA should be ok and are available from ECP as a Timing belt kit
Title: Re: Ecp cambelt kit and water pump ok?
Post by: pudding on May 29, 2020, 10:43:10 pm
As far as OEM is concerned.....INA make the bearings but Conti make the belt and water pump, so makes sense to get the Conti kit.....or dealer, lol
Title: Re: Ecp cambelt kit and water pump ok?
Post by: rich83 on May 29, 2020, 11:01:03 pm
Who makes INA belts?
Title: Re: Ecp cambelt kit and water pump ok?
Post by: LC5F on May 30, 2020, 12:04:25 am
Dayco - agreed, dodgy sounding name - but they are an OEM supplier to VW
VW seem to flip between Conti, Gates and Dayco - I would be happy to us any of those for just belts.

If you have a mole in euro's get them to open up an INA kit - they are OEM supplier of bearings, they don't make or rebadge belts - and see what belt is included, odds on its a Gates

Don't forget G13 coolant in the shopping list
Title: Re: Ecp cambelt kit and water pump ok?
Post by: Pistol pete on May 30, 2020, 07:32:59 am
Thanks everyone.. I'll look into the ina kit and dealer.  But gotta wait till dealers open and it's already a year and 10k over
Title: Re: Ecp cambelt kit and water pump ok?
Post by: colesey on June 01, 2020, 08:37:08 am
Personally speaking, I would just buy OEM for peace of mind.  The savings on the alternatives aren't huge, especially when you stop to consider the service life and potential consequences. 
Title: Re: Ecp cambelt kit and water pump ok?
Post by: pudding on June 06, 2020, 04:00:56 pm
Dayco - agreed, dodgy sounding name - but they are an OEM supplier to VW
VW seem to flip between Conti, Gates and Dayco - I would be happy to us any of those for just belts.

If you have a mole in euro's get them to open up an INA kit - they are OEM supplier of bearings, they don't make or rebadge belts - and see what belt is included, odds on its a Gates

Don't forget G13 coolant in the shopping list

I think VW just flit between who ever offers the cheapest contract and can fulfil the required quantity on time.

There are subtle differences in factory vs aftermarket parts from the same manufacturer.  For example, oil and air filters.  They may look the same but OEM filters generally have more pleats and filter down to smaller micron limits.   Things you can't really see easily by eye, but the differences are there none the less.  OEM parts are made to an agreed standard and QA level, whereas aftermarket stuff isn't, hence why it's cheaper.

That's not to say aftermarket stuff is terrible.  I'd certainly use it on an old beater I don't care about or if moving a car on.  It does the job, but for how long is anyone's guess  :grin:



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Post by: LC5F on June 08, 2020, 02:18:42 pm
Agreed - I try to stay away form Meyle and Febi stuff (except their boltrs), but some parts are definitely OEM standard -
I regularly get Lemforder stuff with VAG number ground off or even still number present, this could just be the same mold, but would they really change the compound of rubber in a bush for a different run of aftermarket stuff?

I've also had Chinese stuff that was built to higher spec than expected, I got some Mk4 rear arm brake lines with cunifer hard line and stainless fittings, the price was super cheap too.