MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: gobbleplease on March 16, 2010, 07:04:48 pm
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Im about to fit all my bits and bobs and i was thinking of ditching the ARBs as im not sure if they are needed on the golf. they will be paired with kws, walk, bushes and mounts.
What do you think, ditch or stick ? anyone else running eibachs ?
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i'd keep them :happy2:
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if you got em, they wont do any harm :smiley: bang em on
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I first changed from stock to Eibach ARB's when I fitted KoniFSD's. I kept them when I later changed to VWR-KW-V3 coilovers.
ARB's are always going to help keep the car flatter and are an underrated and easily overlooked mod imo. I would only change them if I needed more adjustability (which I don't for 'fast road' use).
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I first changed from stock to Eibach ARB's when I fitted KoniFSD's. I kept them when I later changed to VWR-KW-V3 coilovers.
ARB's are always going to help keep the car flatter and are an underrated and easily overlooked mod imo. I would only change them if I needed more adjustability (which I don't for 'fat road' use).
Is this a slip of the tonque or an admission that someone needs to start a diet :ashamed: :ashamed:?!?!?!?!?!?
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i'd keep them :happy2:
^ x 2 :happy2:
My H&R arbs are one of my favourite mods...
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i'd keep them :happy2:
^ x 2 :happy2:
My H&R arbs are one of my favourite mods...
x3 :wink: :wink:
I've only had my Neuspeed ARB's fitted for a few hours and I will NEVER take them off :drool: :drool:
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Im about to fit all my bits and bobs and i was thinking of ditching the ARBs as im not sure if they are needed on the golf. they will be paired with kws, walk, bushes and mounts.
What do you think, ditch or stick ? anyone else running eibachs ?
I've got some eibach ARBs waiting to be fitted - have you got brackets with your front one? I've only got the bar and the bushes assuming I could re-use the front brackets but when I went to get it fitted the old brackets were fixed to the OEM ARB :confused:
I've been advised they need to be cut off an welded back on which seems a PITA!
Can ANYONE (RR!) confirm that they had to go through the same to fit their front eibach ARB?
I'm getting it fitted tomorrow so don't want to be cutting and welding unnecessarily.
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The only situation i feel like im requiring ARBs at the moment is when i change from one direction to another quickly, the car feels abit unsettled. I cant help but think in the wet im going to be constantly searching for grip as the roll is vastly reduced
Obviously the KWs will help things without the ARBs.
Just wondering what settings you were running your eibachs on anyway ?
Personally I was looking for a neutral set up. If im honest, IMO, if im lifting off mid corner ive f*cked up somewhere so i dont want to have to correct oversteer aswell but at the same time when im pushing it i would like a little bit of mid corner adjustability aswell,
A big must for me is an improvement in understeer with the ARBs without it bringing on oversteer (can anyone answer this) if this is achievable ill fit them, If not does anyone want a brand new set for £250 delivered :chicken:
Ive not opened the box yet but from what ive seen it looked like the rear was adjustable 3 ways and the front was fixed, Can anyone confirm this ?
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Can ANYONE (RR!) confirm that they had to go through the same to fit their front eibach ARB?
I'm getting it fitted tomorrow so don't want to be cutting and welding unnecessarily.
....I didn't have to do any cutting or welding to fit mine. I don't quite understand which brackets you're referring to. I have stock Drop Links.
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The brackets which fix around the bushes anf then bolt to the car.
When I took my old ARB off the original brackets are 'fixed' around the OEM bush and ARB. I was expecting to re-use them the same way I did on the back ARB but unless I cut them off then there is no way to re-use them.
Spoke to eibach UK and they said the MK5 kits don't come with brackets! That's why I'm confused :confused:
Who fitted your ARBs? Could you ask them if they re-used the old brackets or if the kit came with new ones PLEASE!! :happy2:
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Who fitted your ARBs? Could you ask them if they re-used the old brackets or if the kit came with new ones PLEASE!! :happy2:
....Ray West (West Tuning, Thruxton) did mine over 4 years ago. I doubt he'd remember! I was with him while he did it and there definitely wasn't any welding.
We replaced the bushes at VWR not too long ago. The brackets just bolt - No welding etc.
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Thanks Robin - I'll have to get the ARB off again and then see if we can 'break' the original brackets open and re-use them........
Strange because JKM also said you have to cut and weld the exisitng brackets... :confused:
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Thanks Robin - I'll have to get the ARB off again and then see if we can 'break' the original brackets open and re-use them........
Strange because JKM also said you have to cut and weld the exisitng brackets... :confused:
....Now I'm confused. I definitely don't remember any welding but JKM know their onions. VWR are a bit tied up racing at the moment so I don't want to bother them.
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Well the car's gone in today to have the Golf R calipers and discs fitted all round as well as the front ARB so I'll see what they report tomorrow......
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i fitted all of my chassis mods individually.
coilovers
anti roll bars
walk
in this order
the anti roll bars had the biggest effect on the handling by a huge margin in comparison. if you are going to shy off an option scrap the walk or coilovers and still fit the ARBs
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I fitted Eibach ARB's 2 months ago,and I had the same question with gobbleplease about the front brackets.
The answer is that you should use the OEM brackets,by ''opening'' them so that the new ARB sits in.
Then you use the OEM bolts and everything is fixed ok.
Personally I use Bilstein (custom setup 55mm)shocks,Eibach Sportlines and Eibach ARB's.
With soft-F,hard-R settings, the car is almost neutral on good asphalt.
On the track I'd prefer a harder rear ARB,so I will buy a BSH 27mm arb soon :evilgrin:
I just bought TT front lower arms and WALK,so that I fit them all together.
When everything is done,I will open a topic of ''my ride''. :party:
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Many thanks Nikiforos :happy2: That's exactly what I needed to find out :jumpmove:
Should get my car back today with the ARB and R brakes done - the WALK made a noticable difference and the car feels much sharper to drive. Rear ARB help with some roll but I'm hoping the front will make it evern better!
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OK - so they finally managed to fit the front eibach ARB by re-using the old brackets (which apparently isn't that straightforward).
The car feels VERY different to drive now - much more so than with just the rear ARB and WALK.
It almost feels twitchy and picks up on a lot more imperfections from the road - is this normal? I am running lowered springs on standard shocks.
With the WALK the steering got heavier, but now with the front ARB it's a lot lighter!
Steering is defo more direct and have to be careful as end up cutting corners now!
Is it something that one gets used to as I'm not sure I like it!! :ashamed:
Also, I'm getting some Koni FSDs which I hope will help with absorbing the imperfections?
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What do you mean twitchy bud ?
What have you got your rear ARB set at ? I understand the front is a fixed position.
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Twitchy as in very sensitive - picks up on all the imperfections on the road and also the steering feels like it has a quick rack!
I need to drive it more - maybe it's just something you get used to :confused:
Both front and rear ARBs have 2 settings for adjustability - mine are both on soft.
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i did quite a bit of trialing on differnt setups at the nurburgring with mine. ended up with the rear bar on its stiffest and the front bar on softest. definately the best setup imo
that said i too would have changed to a stiffer rear bar had i not been selling up as i prefer abit more oversteer