MK5 Golf GTI

All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Sat Nav and Car Audio => Topic started by: rdfcpete on March 21, 2010, 02:55:42 pm

Title: RNS-510 AM Radio not working
Post by: rdfcpete on March 21, 2010, 02:55:42 pm
Just fitted the RNS-510 aerial adaptor lead to solve my speaker problems I was having when using the MDI interface (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,12499.msg187738.html#msg187738).

Now it's fitted, I can't get AM radio, just interference. FM works as before. It's consistently worked up until now.
Any ideas?

Thanks  :smiley:
Title: Re: RNS-510 AM Radio not working
Post by: QD MBE on March 21, 2010, 02:57:34 pm
The AM Aerial lead has come off.
Title: Re: RNS-510 AM Radio not working
Post by: 182_blue on March 21, 2010, 04:35:47 pm
check to see if both aerials are connected, oh and what are you listening too an AM  :confused:  :laugh:
Title: Re: RNS-510 AM Radio not working
Post by: ollie288 on March 21, 2010, 04:36:18 pm
check to see if both aerials are connected, oh and what are you listening too an AM  :confused:  :laugh:

+1  :laugh:
Title: Re: RNS-510 AM Radio not working
Post by: rdfcpete on March 21, 2010, 04:51:52 pm
The AM Aerial lead has come off.

But that would suggest the new aerial adaptor doesn't do its job?  :sad1:
They both were definitely on as I tested it when the unit was out before refitting, I'll triple check though...

check to see if both aerials are connected, oh and what are you listening too an AM  :confused:  :laugh:

+1  :laugh:
check to see if both aerials are connected, oh and what are you listening too an AM  :confused:  :laugh:

 :signLOL: Only comes in handy for FiveLive when I'm in the car after away games/for England games  :happy2:
Title: Re: RNS-510 AM Radio not working
Post by: mortygttdi on March 21, 2010, 06:04:12 pm
swap the plugs round and try that,  1 cable will work on both but the other will only work on the specific one.

Darren
Title: Re: RNS-510 AM Radio not working
Post by: drexel75 on March 27, 2011, 09:24:45 am
I've only recently got my car and hve no AM radio. How easy is it to check the aerial leads? I have an RCD300 in a 2007 Golf GTI. Thanks.
Title: Re: RNS-510 AM Radio not working
Post by: 182_blue on March 27, 2011, 09:30:32 am
I've only recently got my car and hve no AM radio. How easy is it to check the aerial leads? I have an RCD300 in a 2007 Golf GTI. Thanks.
Checking the lead is easy, getting to it is another matter  :grin:

http://www.r32oc.com/tutorials-guides/18955-rns-510-mfd-install-how-guide-inc-pin-swap.html
Title: Re: RNS-510 AM Radio not working
Post by: rdfcpete on March 27, 2011, 12:46:56 pm
I never fixed this in the end Sean!

I think I vaguely remember swapping the culprit wires at the back of the RNS and I had neither working FM nor AM radio as a result.
In the end I've just lived without AM for the last year which admittedly is a bit of a pain when you're driving back from 150 miles away and there's a 5.15pm kickoff on FiveLive after an away game  :chicken:
Title: Re: RNS-510 AM Radio not working
Post by: alexperkins on March 27, 2011, 01:35:22 pm
If you have VCDS, you can do a diagnostic on the aerials individually to check all is working  :happy2:
Title: Re: RNS-510 AM Radio not working
Post by: rdfcpete on March 27, 2011, 01:57:34 pm
^ That I do mate. I'll check it out but I don't remember there being errors in the scans I ran around the time I discovered the issue...

I've only recently got my car and hve no AM radio. How easy is it to check the aerial leads? I have an RCD300 in a 2007 Golf GTI. Thanks.

Did you get any errors during a VCDS scan Drexel?
Title: Re: RNS-510 AM Radio not working
Post by: alexperkins on March 27, 2011, 01:58:32 pm
It doesnt show as error. Go into Radio then Measuring Blocks and i think its group 8/9/10 youll see itll say Radio Connection 1 - OK
Title: Re: RNS-510 AM Radio not working
Post by: CocoPops on March 29, 2011, 10:48:29 am
Did you get this sorted?

I have the same issue.

I had to remove one of the plug covers to get the aerials to fit the RNS510, so it's feasible that mine are round the wrong way.
Means I've got to pull the RNS out again and try switching them over.

So, do I remove the plastic clips (that don't fit the RNS510) or buy the adaptor?
Title: Re: RNS-510 AM Radio not working
Post by: alexperkins on March 29, 2011, 10:50:54 am
Id suggest buying the adapter to be fair - it ensures a good connection, and they wont fall off when your driving along.

I bought the adapter and it was defo worth it!

Have you got VCDS lee? If not, I can bring it up when I pick up the downpipe and check its set properly  :happy2:
Title: Re: RNS-510 AM Radio not working
Post by: CocoPops on March 29, 2011, 04:47:11 pm
Right,

Just ordered the adaptor from ebay then.
Will give that a whirl.

I've got a HEX+CAN USB lead and VCDS Alex, just learning how to use it again! :) It's been sat in the drawer for the last 2years!  :grin:
Title: Re: RNS-510 AM Radio not working
Post by: alexperkins on March 29, 2011, 04:49:18 pm
Ah happy days!

Oh good. Best brush the dust off it  :signLOL:
Title: Re: RNS-510 AM Radio not working
Post by: Richn83 on March 29, 2011, 05:01:29 pm
The un-converted plastic shrouds will only fit on one way round as they have little flanges (assuming you remove one) so that should ensure you have them on the right pegs, also cant you get the signal strength for both aerial in either the radio menu (holding down setup) or the secret menu (long hold setup)
Title: Re: RNS-510 AM Radio not working
Post by: vRS Carl on March 29, 2011, 05:03:13 pm
As rich has said no need to mess with VCDS.

Press setup for about 10 secs and it changes to the radio service menu. Then select either FM or AM and it will give you all the info you need to know. :happy2:
Title: Re: RNS-510 AM Radio not working
Post by: alexperkins on March 29, 2011, 05:13:06 pm
As rich has said no need to mess with VCDS.

Press setup for about 10 secs and it changes to the radio service menu. Then select either FM or AM and it will give you all the info you need to know. :happy2:

Forgot about that  :signLOL: VCDS has more details though  :smiley:
Title: Re: RNS-510 AM Radio not working
Post by: drexel75 on March 30, 2011, 12:27:55 pm
Managed to strip the console down today to look at the leads. Both are fitted and as someone has said can only be fitted on the correct connector due to the flanges. Still no AM radio though so I'm guessing the lead must be broken somewhere or disconnected at the other end. Does anyone know where the AM lead terminates at the opposite end from the stereo? Thanks
Title: Re: RNS-510 AM Radio not working
Post by: alexperkins on March 30, 2011, 12:29:10 pm
Both are FM tuners with AM on one lead from what I remember. One of them goes to the roof, the other to the rear window

Someone will probably elaborate on this though
Title: Re: RNS-510 AM Radio not working
Post by: CocoPops on March 30, 2011, 12:47:29 pm
Both my leads are connected according to the head unit.
AM Signal = POOR  :laugh: No sh*t  :smiley:
Title: Re: RNS-510 AM Radio not working
Post by: alexperkins on March 30, 2011, 01:02:53 pm
Is that with the adapter Lee?
Title: Re: RNS-510 AM Radio not working
Post by: Richn83 on March 30, 2011, 01:06:10 pm
Managed to strip the console down today to look at the leads. Both are fitted and as someone has said can only be fitted on the correct connector due to the flanges. Still no AM radio though so I'm guessing the lead must be broken somewhere or disconnected at the other end. Does anyone know where the AM lead terminates at the opposite end from the stereo? Thanks

Need to know the age pf your car as pre MY06 there was a diversity amplifiere under the driver seat, also do you have a fin for GPS or phone,
Title: Re: RNS-510 AM Radio not working
Post by: CocoPops on March 30, 2011, 01:06:40 pm
No, not yet Alex... it's on order... Only bought it yesterday
Title: Re: RNS-510 AM Radio not working
Post by: drexel75 on March 30, 2011, 01:09:30 pm
Managed to strip the console down today to look at the leads. Both are fitted and as someone has said can only be fitted on the correct connector due to the flanges. Still no AM radio though so I'm guessing the lead must be broken somewhere or disconnected at the other end. Does anyone know where the AM lead terminates at the opposite end from the stereo? Thanks

Need to know the age pf your car as pre MY06 there was a diversity amplifiere under the driver seat, also do you have a fin for GPS or phone,
My car is a 2007. No fin fitted for GPS or phone. My stereo is an RCD 300 rather than the 510 the topic is about but the main point about no AM signal still remains.
Title: Re: RNS-510 AM Radio not working
Post by: alexperkins on March 30, 2011, 01:17:09 pm
No, not yet Alex... it's on order... Only bought it yesterday

Im used to things arriving at TPS 8AMish and fitting them by 9AM lol...gotta love it  :signLOL:
Title: Re: RNS-510 AM Radio not working
Post by: CocoPops on April 08, 2011, 11:52:45 am
Just to revisit this one.

I ordered and fitted this adaptor (£11):
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270730526196#ht_741wt_907

Now, AM works perfectly.
Title: Re: RNS-510 AM Radio not working
Post by: alexperkins on April 08, 2011, 12:00:07 pm
The adaptor is the key  :happy2:
Title: Re: RNS-510 AM Radio not working
Post by: rdfcpete on April 08, 2011, 06:20:35 pm
Just to revisit this one.

I ordered and fitted this adaptor (£11):
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270730526196#ht_741wt_907

Now, AM works perfectly.

This is exactly what I purchased CP.

Didn't make any positive difference so clearly some wires are lose or damaged somewhere else. Tad strange  :confused:
Title: Re: RNS-510 AM Radio not working
Post by: alexperkins on April 08, 2011, 06:21:49 pm
Thats quite odd pete, as my AM reception is fine aswell using that adapter

What aerial have you got - sharkfin or beesting?
Title: Re: RNS-510 AM Radio not working
Post by: rdfcpete on April 08, 2011, 06:25:44 pm
^ I know dude, agreed.

It's definitely my environment, as such. I ran the wires without the adaptor on the RNS for a good 9 months or so, therefore perhaps it damaged them at some point then?

Beesting btw. It sits too high though, I need to crunch the screw length  :laugh:
Title: Re: RNS-510 AM Radio not working
Post by: alexperkins on April 08, 2011, 06:28:10 pm
Hmm maybe try a new Polo aerial - they apparently give much better signal than stock in any case
Title: Re: RNS-510 AM Radio not working
Post by: Kalpsn2000 on April 11, 2011, 03:50:59 pm
Just to revisit this one.

I ordered and fitted this adaptor (£11):
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270730526196#ht_741wt_907

Now, AM works perfectly.

This is exactly what I purchased CP.

Didn't make any positive difference so clearly some wires are lose or damaged somewhere else. Tad strange  :confused:

I upgraded to the RNS 510 (from RCD 500) about 3 months ago. While changing over I noticed that there were no plastic connectors on the 2 aerial wires. I then remembered that the previous owner mentioned he did have the RNS 510 in there so must have removed the plastic connectors.

Therefore the previous owner must have had them connected without the adaptor and I currently have them connected without the adaptor and work fine. So it sounds like your AM cable is damaged or disconnected somewhere along the line.