MK5 Golf GTI

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Title: which MK5 GTI would you choose out of these 2
Post by: MKMike on February 22, 2021, 09:44:15 pm
Hello,

Hoping to join the MK5 GTI family, these both are in my budget. Prefer the grey colour but like the fact the silver one has cruise control. Anything else glaring that I should think about when making the choice?

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Title: Re: which MK5 GTI would you choose out of these 2
Post by: Clarkj93 on February 22, 2021, 10:05:47 pm
Service history and general condition is what I would put it down to tbh. If dsg has been serviced on one but not the other id grab that one for example.
Title: Re: which MK5 GTI would you choose out of these 2
Post by: MKMike on February 22, 2021, 10:11:55 pm
Service history and general condition is what I would put it down to tbh. If dsg has been serviced on one but not the other id grab that one for example.
Thanks I thought I wasn't missing anything too obvious,

DSG has been serviced on the silver one @93k, I mentioned DSG service to the grey one and he couldn't find a receipt amongst the service history but has offered to source a service for it before purchase, will come back to me tomorrow. I've also asked both to source 4 off Michelin Pilot tyres for them at trader prices so we'll see what they come back with.
Title: which MK5 GTI would you choose out of these 2
Post by: fakie1977 on February 22, 2021, 10:21:48 pm
Condition, a service history and general maintenance such as timing belt, water pump, cam follower renewal, DV, PCV etc is much more important than some specs. If those haven’t been done then you need to budget for that at some point.

Can’t quite tell from pictures but the silver one looks like it has Xenons which is a nice option.

If you haven’t already done then ask for copy of the factory option codes so you can compare the 2 cars.

Cruise control is a fairly cheap retrofit so wouldn’t worry too much if that is what you want.

If the steering wheel has paddles - the buttons can also be retrofitted (if they don’t have that) very easily and cheaply.

Lots of other things can also be added as well.

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Title: Re: which MK5 GTI would you choose out of these 2
Post by: MKMike on February 22, 2021, 11:11:27 pm
Condition, a service history and general maintenance such as timing belt, water pump, cam follower renewal, DV, PCV etc is much more important than some specs. If those haven’t been done then you need to budget for that at some point.

Can’t quite tell from pictures but the silver one looks like it has Xenons which is a nice option.

If you haven’t already done then ask for copy of the factory option codes so you can compare the 2 cars.

Cruise control is a fairly cheap retrofit so wouldn’t worry too much if that is what you want.

If the steering wheel has paddles - the buttons can also be retrofitted (if they don’t have that) very easily and cheaply.

Lots of other things can also be added as well.

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Yes the silver one has the Xenons and better specced in general, also a robust service history

Multifunction Steering Wheels For DSG
Rear Parking Sensor
Xenon Headlamps
Alloy Wheels - 18in Monza II
Metallic Paint
Sunroof Electric Glass
Multifunction Computer (Highline)

The grey one only has the colour, -5k millage, the fact that it's closer to me to get and slightly cheaper (but like you said with lack of service history I'd be paying more than that to catch up).
Title: Re: which MK5 GTI would you choose out of these 2
Post by: Jons1001 on February 23, 2021, 06:33:02 am
I also like the grey colour but the silver one looks a much better deal from the above. With a robust service history and great options like Xenons and sunroof (pretty rare on these) I'd be looking at that one. Then as above just make sure you do cam follower, DV valve, pcv valve etc. I was lucky and found recent receipts for all the above so yours might be the same, have a good look through. If it's had the chain/tensioner done aswell that would be a big bonus.
Title: Re: which MK5 GTI would you choose out of these 2
Post by: MKMike on February 24, 2021, 12:42:45 pm
Got a quick question on the model differences,

GOLF GTI TURBO
GOLF GTI AUTO

Is there any major drawback of the Turbo over the Auto?
Title: Re: which MK5 GTI would you choose out of these 2
Post by: Clarkj93 on February 24, 2021, 01:07:40 pm
I'm pretty sure those are not models. Just maybe how they've been named in adverts. Variations i know of are standard gti which are the 2 above, edition 30 and pirelli. Pirelli and ed30 have the ko4 turbo and different seats' wheels, bar that I'm pretty sure its just whatever the buyer spec's on them.
Title: Re: which MK5 GTI would you choose out of these 2
Post by: Jons1001 on February 24, 2021, 01:46:26 pm
Also are you set on buying from trade? I get that you have a bit more security but there are some very well looked after examples for sale privately.
Title: Re: which MK5 GTI would you choose out of these 2
Post by: MKMike on February 24, 2021, 03:01:33 pm
Also are you set on buying from trade? I get that you have a bit more security but there are some very well looked after examples for sale privately.
I've been looking for a couple of weeks now, auto trader/motors/facebook market place. Was burnt twice with facebook private sellers who didn't mention the car was a cat S cost me a tenner in HPI checks but glad I did them. Additionally with travel rules now seems ok to travel to a trader but not to a private place to conclude the sale.

Anyhow with all that said I've put a deposit down for the silver one, the winning factors was the sunroof and headlights as well as documented service of the DSG box.

My request to them was a bit unique as I wanted 4 new Pilot Sport Tyres 4 on it, and they were understandably funny as what happens if I change my mind in person and they're now stuck with 4 expensive tyres. In the end it worked out alright and for all 4 new tyres they get at trade prices (said it will cost them 600 but I reckon they got it cheaper but whatever) they knocked off 150GBP for me. So 450 for me to pay for the 4 tyres doesn't seem too bad really. Additionally before collecting the final price includes an MOT / Engine Oil Service /Genuine VW Cambelt kit + water pump and 6 Month AA warranty. Just over a week to wait until I take the old girl home.  :pomppomp:
Title: Re: which MK5 GTI would you choose out of these 2
Post by: fakie1977 on February 24, 2021, 03:09:36 pm
FYI - There’s often deals and offers on Michelin’s so usually for 4 tyres for standard 225/45/18 sizes they come in less than £400 fully fitted.

Glad you found your car though. Hope you have many years of enjoyment with it.


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Title: Re: which MK5 GTI would you choose out of these 2
Post by: MKMike on February 24, 2021, 03:33:27 pm
FYI - There’s often deals and offers on Michelin’s so usually for 4 tyres for standard 225/45/18 sizes they come in less than £400 fully fitted.

Glad you found your car though. Hope you have many years of enjoyment with it.


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What website are you looking at, I only ever got mine from Costco/Kwikfit and when I did a quick look it was coming 500-580 with fitment. I'll pay more attention to tyre prices now
Title: which MK5 GTI would you choose out of these 2
Post by: fakie1977 on February 24, 2021, 03:38:00 pm
When I got mine it was with blackcircles- and then you select the local garage to have it fitted.

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Title: Re: which MK5 GTI would you choose out of these 2
Post by: Clarkj93 on February 24, 2021, 03:39:12 pm
Black circles mate for road tyres in future mate. That price is fully fitted and balanced:


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Thats for 17's but 18's are only an extra 20 quid on top.
Title: Re: which MK5 GTI would you choose out of these 2
Post by: MKMike on February 24, 2021, 03:42:05 pm
bookmarked nice one  :happy2:
Title: Re: which MK5 GTI would you choose out of these 2
Post by: shail on February 24, 2021, 03:45:09 pm
I prefer the grey colour, but the silver one just looks very well looked after.  The grey one has a different centre console.
Title: Re: which MK5 GTI would you choose out of these 2
Post by: fakie1977 on February 24, 2021, 04:10:59 pm
bookmarked nice one  :happy2:
Another option is camskill but they only supply and not fit the tyres but it’s good to compare or if you have a friendly local garage to fit (or when you are refurbing your wheels anyway and have them refit new tyres)


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Title: Re: which MK5 GTI would you choose out of these 2
Post by: Jons1001 on February 24, 2021, 04:53:45 pm
Good choice and sounds like even though they charged a little more for the tyres you got a great deal with mot, service, cambelt thrown in.

Are you planning on doing anything to the car? what are the buttons on the side of the drivers seat, is that electronic adjustment?
Title: Re: which MK5 GTI would you choose out of these 2
Post by: MKMike on February 24, 2021, 09:57:20 pm
Good choice and sounds like even though they charged a little more for the tyres you got a great deal with mot, service, cambelt thrown in.

Are you planning on doing anything to the car? what are the buttons on the side of the drivers seat, is that electronic adjustment?
Apart from getting the interior up to spec, new latch on glovebox and new leather on the gear stick, I think I'll just keep it stock. I assume those buttons are the electric adjustment
Title: Re: which MK5 GTI would you choose out of these 2
Post by: MKMike on February 24, 2021, 10:33:02 pm
just doing some HPI checks and for some reason the number plate is throwing up a manual car am I being really soft here and missing something?

FH07OYZ - Volkswagen GOLF GTI TURBO, PETROL, 1984, Manual
Registered on: 13/06/2007

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Title: Re: which MK5 GTI would you choose out of these 2
Post by: Jons1001 on February 25, 2021, 05:08:46 am
Wouldn't worry about that it will just be an input error somewhere. Mine shows up as a pirelli edition on some sites (wish it was but it definitely isn't).
Title: Re: which MK5 GTI would you choose out of these 2
Post by: MKMike on February 25, 2021, 12:36:14 pm
Wouldn't worry about that it will just be an input error somewhere. Mine shows up as a pirelli edition on some sites (wish it was but it definitely isn't).
Thanks I spent most a good chunk of time worrying, until I googled it and it's a common issue. Still I let the dealer know hoping they will sort out the V5C, as it's a bit of a pain to insure now, have to ring and hold to speak to an advisor as opposed to just clicking a few buttons 
Title: Re: which MK5 GTI would you choose out of these 2
Post by: Andy on February 25, 2021, 09:44:30 pm
Right choice in the silver one 👌
As for the v5 some members on the r32 forum there's are registered as vr6
Title: Re: which MK5 GTI would you choose out of these 2
Post by: Tin Robot on February 27, 2021, 12:56:02 pm
My fully loaded grey GTI is going up for sale soon including very rare factory Xenons. Lot less miles and DSG and other preventative maintenance done. FSH I also replaced most of the interior (previous owners wife had long nails and wrecked the buttons). A bit beyond the cost of these but all round a better car.

Just a thought !
Title: Re: which MK5 GTI would you choose out of these 2
Post by: MKMike on March 01, 2021, 07:40:42 pm
failed its MOT today,

Repair immediately (major defects):
Front Windscreen wiper does not clear the windscreen effectively (3.4 (b) (ii))
Offside Front Coil spring fractured or broken and top mount damaged (5.3.1 (b) (i))  ---> On this one, is it worth me ringing them and asking to replace both sides? Or is it just likely pot hole damage that won't matter if one side is newer than the other?

but on a positive, no advisories   :driver: