MK5 Golf GTI

All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Performance Modifications => Topic started by: gillm on March 28, 2010, 09:56:43 pm

Title: rs4 pres?sure reg
Post by: gillm on March 28, 2010, 09:56:43 pm
whats the pros and cons of this ?

where does it fit and what does it cost ?
Title: Re: rs4 pres?sure reg
Post by: danishmkvgti on March 29, 2010, 05:50:44 am
i saw on the american forum, that the price range is 70-100USD.
Pros:
 might solve the dip many have above 5k rpm, i for one has ordered one  :wink:  :love:
Cons:?
System isn't up for the extra pressure???  :confused:
Title: Re: rs4 pres?sure reg
Post by: Hurdy on March 29, 2010, 02:22:54 pm
Pro's

It enables the rail to meet requested in the remap. REVO specifies 132.5bar and the stock system tends to run short of this
The low pressure "in-tank" pump pressure doesn't fall as much as when the OEM valve is used

Con's

Need to take off the manifold to fit unless you haz pixie fingers with double jointing.
Title: Re: rs4 pres?sure reg
Post by: danishmkvgti on March 29, 2010, 02:45:49 pm
Pro's

It enables the rail to meet requested in the remap. REVO specifies 132.5bar and the stock system tends to run short of this
The low pressure "in-tank" pump pressure doesn't fall as much as when the OEM valve is used

Con's

Need to take off the manifold to fit unless you haz pixie fingers with double jointing.


so in reality no cons then?  :wink:  :happy2:
Title: Re: rs4 pres?sure reg
Post by: fuscobal on March 29, 2010, 06:32:52 pm
My mechanic installed it without taking out the manifold but he has pixie fingers and also had to "improvise" a key to fit there !
Title: Re: rs4 pres?sure reg
Post by: jonnyc on March 29, 2010, 06:59:01 pm
Seems to lower the LPFP duty cycle % too which on anything larger than a K04 is only a good thing! Well worth doing if the inlet manifold is off..
Title: Re: rs4 pres?sure reg
Post by: danishmkvgti on March 29, 2010, 07:06:01 pm
Seems to lower the LPFP duty cycle % too which on anything larger than a K04 is only a good thing! Well worth doing if the inlet manifold is off..

i hope it might help me with this dip:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi715.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww160%2Fjakethemoss%2FJakes2.jpg&hash=fb4958de7d8768f22702b387ad4533f1092df7ee)
Title: Re: rs4 pres?sure reg
Post by: gillm on March 29, 2010, 07:35:54 pm
cool i will order 1 up then . manifold will be coming off soon anyways
Title: Re: rs4 pres?sure reg
Post by: jonnyc on March 29, 2010, 07:36:47 pm
cool i will order 1 up then . manifold will be coming off soon anyways

For the cost its a no brainer  :smiley:
Title: Re: rs4 pres?sure reg
Post by: Hurdy on March 29, 2010, 08:07:23 pm
Seems to lower the LPFP duty cycle % too which on anything larger than a K04 is only a good thing! Well worth doing if the inlet manifold is off..

i hope it might help me with this dip:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi715.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww160%2Fjakethemoss%2FJakes2.jpg&hash=fb4958de7d8768f22702b387ad4533f1092df7ee)

Bl00dy hell Danish, that ain't no dip that's a black hole :surprised:

Title: Re: rs4 pres?sure reg
Post by: Janner_Sy on March 29, 2010, 08:22:54 pm
what is this, is it the low pressure fuel sender.  if it is i had it rplaced on mine under warrantee, and was a pain in the ass to do.

is his likely to fix these dips or is it just another mod that miht fix it??
Title: Re: rs4 pres?sure reg
Post by: danishmkvgti on March 29, 2010, 08:38:11 pm
Seems to lower the LPFP duty cycle % too which on anything larger than a K04 is only a good thing! Well worth doing if the inlet manifold is off..

i hope it might help me with this dip:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi715.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww160%2Fjakethemoss%2FJakes2.jpg&hash=fb4958de7d8768f22702b387ad4533f1092df7ee)

Bl00dy hell Danish, that ain't no dip that's a black hole :surprised:



tell me about it, but we are working on it. any ideas??   :confused:
Title: Re: rs4 pres?sure reg
Post by: Hurdy on March 30, 2010, 12:23:08 am
Seems to lower the LPFP duty cycle % too which on anything larger than a K04 is only a good thing! Well worth doing if the inlet manifold is off..

i hope it might help me with this dip:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi715.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww160%2Fjakethemoss%2FJakes2.jpg&hash=fb4958de7d8768f22702b387ad4533f1092df7ee)

Bl00dy hell Danish, that ain't no dip that's a black hole :surprised:



tell me about it, but we are working on it. any ideas??   :confused:

Any logs for me?

Looks like either fuel cut, timing pull or even the dreaded onset of compression surge, but as for the cure, that's a different matter!

You are on a stock GTI block from what I remember and so the compression ratio will be 10.25:1 rather than the 9.8:1 of the ED30 block. This may also account for the bigger dip as some ED30/Cupra/S3 guys get this dip, but to a lesser extent. I'm sure you can get gasket sets to reduce the compression ratio by a few points, which may help if that is what it is and it would be less expensive than just opting for lower compression pistons to try and get rid of it. There are tuning options, but I'm assuming that you are already covering that side of things.

HTH :happy2:
Title: Re: rs4 pres?sure reg
Post by: micky 32 on April 05, 2010, 04:06:08 pm
I'm on the standard GTI block higher compression with a KO4 and not experiencing the flat spot at all
Title: Re: rs4 pres?sure reg
Post by: Janner_Sy on April 05, 2010, 04:14:53 pm
did you here what happened to harrys vRS mickey. 
Title: Re: rs4 pres?sure reg
Post by: micky 32 on April 05, 2010, 04:19:53 pm
Yeah, but to be honest i think he was just unlucky, i've done 15k since mine is done and i think sibart has done huge mileage on his with no probs. On the USA forum no reports of ring problems either..
Title: Re: rs4 pres?sure reg
Post by: fuscobal on April 05, 2010, 09:21:36 pm
What happened to the vrs you're talkin' about ? Anything related to the press reg valve ?
Title: Re: rs4 pres?sure reg
Post by: micky 32 on April 05, 2010, 09:38:24 pm
As far as i know a piston ring broke and then scored the bore which required engine replacement.. he would have been running OEM valve not related.
Title: Re: rs4 pres?sure reg
Post by: fuscobal on April 06, 2010, 06:48:07 am
Ah, I understand. I've heard of a similar problem around here with a 100% stock ED30. I was just curious why this failure was brought into discussion in this topic and thought it had something to do with the RS4 press reg valve !