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Title: Brake calipers, Powder coated or painted???
Post by: monte on March 31, 2010, 01:14:25 pm
Does anyone know where you can send brake calipers for powder coating? Is there any specialist caliper companies that strip the calipers and then powder coat/paint them?

or

Is it best just to sand em and paint em yourself with High temp paint?
Title: Re: Brake calipers, Powder coated or painted???
Post by: gaz b on March 31, 2010, 01:25:02 pm

I just painted mine with hight temp paint myself mate.

 A little time, effort and patience and they come out looking ace! :happy2:
Title: Re: Brake calipers, Powder coated or painted???
Post by: JPC on March 31, 2010, 03:01:42 pm
Does anyone know where you can send brake calipers for powder coating? Is there any specialist caliper companies that strip the calipers and then powder coat/paint them?

or

Is it best just to sand em and paint em yourself with High temp paint?

Dave B is your man.

There are very few people if any in the UK that will properly powder coat brakes, due to their nature.

Dave knows brakes thru and thru and has established links exclusively for powder coating brakes. they are properly stripped, blasted, powder coated and built back up.

Ive had two sets done from him now and they're always bang on.

You dont want a powder coating dude taking your brakes apart do you?

and you dont want a mechanic painting your brakes do you? lol
Title: Re: Brake calipers, Powder coated or painted???
Post by: monte on April 01, 2010, 01:01:11 pm
Dave B is your man.

There are very few people if any in the UK that will properly powder coat brakes, due to their nature.

Dave knows brakes thru and thru and has established links exclusively for powder coating brakes. they are properly stripped, blasted, powder coated and built back up.

Ive had two sets done from him now and they're always bang on.

You dont want a powder coating dude taking your brakes apart do you?

and you dont want a mechanic painting your brakes do you? lol


I'm not sure if DaveB is still doing brakes. I think I read somewhere that he is leaving them alone now.....but I could be wrong  :ashamed:
Title: Re: Brake calipers, Powder coated or painted???
Post by: fuscobal on April 01, 2010, 02:54:14 pm
Just received my red painted rear R32 brakes few days ago from Dave so I guess he's still in the business  :happy2:
Title: Re: Brake calipers, Powder coated or painted???
Post by: JPC on April 01, 2010, 03:12:17 pm
Yep, he is! hes just a very busy guy! ;)
Title: Re: Brake calipers, Powder coated or painted???
Post by: alex_chung on April 01, 2010, 07:15:57 pm
Sorry for the slight threadjack but does anyone know of anywhere in Glasgow that does this to a high standard otherwise I will speak to Dave.
Alex
Title: Re: Brake calipers, Powder coated or painted???
Post by: keith on April 01, 2010, 07:44:57 pm
The front R32 set up are very easy to seperate for powder coating 4 big bolts from memory and you have seperated the piston housing from the front of the caliper, this is the bit you want to paint or p/coat.
Title: Re: Brake calipers, Powder coated or painted???
Post by: alex_chung on April 01, 2010, 07:53:25 pm
The front R32 set up are very easy to seperate for powder coating 4 big bolts from memory and you have seperated the piston housing from the front of the caliper, this is the bit you want to paint or p/coat.

I have rears, take it that is a bit different?
Alex
Title: Re: Brake calipers, Powder coated or painted???
Post by: VeeDubDan on April 01, 2010, 07:57:31 pm
The front R32 set up are very easy to seperate for powder coating 4 big bolts from memory and you have seperated the piston housing from the front of the caliper, this is the bit you want to paint or p/coat.

So by spliting the front caliper do you expose the piston/internals? Want to split mine to paint but don't want to disturb the workings of the caliper.
Title: Re: Brake calipers, Powder coated or painted???
Post by: monte on April 01, 2010, 10:10:07 pm
Just received my red painted rear R32 brakes few days ago from Dave so I guess he's still in the business  :happy2:

I'll drop him a "pm" then  :happy2: anyone know where he is based?

Also, not really on topic, but does anyone know about the ds2500 pads? are they any good for normal everyday use? and can these be used on the front with standard pads on the rear?
Title: Re: Brake calipers, Powder coated or painted???
Post by: Beddie on April 01, 2010, 10:20:00 pm
Just received my red painted rear R32 brakes few days ago from Dave so I guess he's still in the business  :happy2:

I'll drop him a "pm" then  :happy2: anyone know where he is based?

Also, not really on topic, but does anyone know about the ds2500 pads? are they any good for normal everyday use? and can these be used on the front with standard pads on the rear?

Dave is based Preston way mate

He's done some S3 calipers in red powdercoat for me recently, fully serviced etc and a top job!  :happy2:

DS2500s are a really good pad albeit a little on the pricey side imo and will be fine for road use, i've gone for the Mintex 1144 which are a DS2500 equivalent for a good bit less ££ and without the pad deposit issues that come with the DSs, worth a look imo
Title: Re: Brake calipers, Powder coated or painted???
Post by: keith on April 02, 2010, 10:27:03 pm
where did you get the Mintex ones?
Title: Re: Brake calipers, Powder coated or painted???
Post by: keith on April 02, 2010, 10:37:14 pm
The front R32 set up are very easy to seperate for powder coating 4 big bolts from memory and you have seperated the piston housing from the front of the caliper, this is the bit you want to paint or p/coat.

So by spliting the front caliper do you expose the piston/internals? Want to split mine to paint but don't want to disturb the workings of the caliper.

yes the blue caliper as shown in the photo seperates from the main piston housing
 (https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fe170%2Fb44fy%2FDSC00597.jpg&hash=de319aab91cfa8f8d41c08f9e969f9afc28a7b91)
Title: Re: Brake calipers, Powder coated or painted???
Post by: monte on April 03, 2010, 11:10:10 pm
Well I am gonna give em a go with some Black high temp paint. If they don't come out very well I will get em powder coated. I just don't know whether to get brush-on or spray paint.

Can anyone tell me what is best to clean them with before I paint them? I was going to get some sort of brake cleaner. Is this ok for cleaning calipers and discs? If so is it ok all over the calipers? (even on the rubber bits).

Thanks!
Title: Re: Brake calipers, Powder coated or painted???
Post by: Beddie on April 03, 2010, 11:11:49 pm
where did you get the Mintex ones?
Got them from DaveB  :happy2:
Title: Re: Brake calipers, Powder coated or painted???
Post by: monte on April 04, 2010, 06:02:00 am
Just received my red painted rear R32 brakes few days ago from Dave so I guess he's still in the business  :happy2:

I'll drop him a "pm" then  :happy2: anyone know where he is based?

Also, not really on topic, but does anyone know about the ds2500 pads? are they any good for normal everyday use? and can these be used on the front with standard pads on the rear?

Dave is based Preston way mate

He's done some S3 calipers in red powdercoat for me recently, fully serviced etc and a top job!  :happy2:

DS2500s are a really good pad albeit a little on the pricey side imo and will be fine for road use, i've gone for the Mintex 1144 which are a DS2500 equivalent for a good bit less ££ and without the pad deposit issues that come with the DSs, worth a look imo

Hi Beddie,

I don't think these are the 1144's but would they be any good? They seem quite cheap.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GOLF-R32-4MOTION-MK5-MINTEX-FRONT-REAR-BRAKE-PADS_W0QQitemZ220580832847QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item335ba4664f
Title: Re: Brake calipers, Powder coated or painted???
Post by: monte on April 04, 2010, 07:22:21 am
I've been reading some bad things about the mintex pads (the cheap ones-not the 1144's) A lot of people saying the OEM pads are better.

Does anyone know how much the OEM R32/S3 pads cost, and where best to get them?

Thanks.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Brake calipers, Powder coated or painted???
Post by: Beddie on April 04, 2010, 09:48:11 am
The ones in that ebay ad are just generic oem stuff by the look of them...

Good OEM equivalent pads from the likes of Pagid, ATE or Textar will be exactly the same as the ones from the factory, Euro car parts stock both the Pagid and ATE ones and the Textars can be got from GSF, prices from around £40 - £50 depending where you get them from and around £75ish from the dealer,

OEMs will be find for the road but will give up fairly easy if your planning on any track action so maybe think about a pad upgrade? DS2500s can be got from Camskill for around £140 or the Mintex 1144s for £95ish also from Camskill..

I sourced my 1144s via DaveB on here as he can get them a bit cheaper than Camskill  :happy2:
Title: Re: Brake calipers, Powder coated or painted???
Post by: monte on April 04, 2010, 02:37:59 pm
The ones in that ebay ad are just generic oem stuff by the look of them...

Good OEM equivalent pads from the likes of Pagid, ATE or Textar will be exactly the same as the ones from the factory, Euro car parts stock both the Pagid and ATE ones and the Textars can be got from GSF, prices from around £40 - £50 depending where you get them from and around £75ish from the dealer,

OEMs will be find for the road but will give up fairly easy if your planning on any track action so maybe think about a pad upgrade? DS2500s can be got from Camskill for around £140 or the Mintex 1144s for £95ish also from Camskill..

I sourced my 1144s via DaveB on here as he can get them a bit cheaper than Camskill  :happy2:

Thanks Beddie,

Are those prices just for the fronts?

Looks like DaveB is going to sort my calipers   :happy2: :happy2: :happy2:
Title: Re: Brake calipers, Powder coated or painted???
Post by: Beddie on April 04, 2010, 03:31:19 pm
Yeah thats just for the fronts  :happy2:

OEM pads in the standard rears should be fine for light track work and a few laps of the Ring imo..
Title: Re: Brake calipers, Powder coated or painted???
Post by: monte on April 06, 2010, 05:58:40 pm
^^^Cheers Beddie  :happy2:

Well I have painted the rear calipers and they look great. Only thing is I have used a Very High Temp paint which I thought was a gloss black finish. Turns out to be a very matt finish... more like blackboard paint.  :scared:

I will give this a bit of a rub down and use some gloss black next time.

Can anyone recommend a suitable gloss black spray paint?

Would this be any good?

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_724427_langId_-1_categoryId_165495
Title: Re: Brake calipers, Powder coated or painted???
Post by: omeydz on March 10, 2013, 03:20:50 pm
Just resurrecting the thread for a quick bit of advice.

Am struggling to find good caliper paint which has a gloss finish. loads seem to be matt!

For freshening black front Scirocco R 345mm brakes, would paint temp to 300 degrees C be adequate? Not really using for track days at all, just road use. Matt finish paints go past 500 degrees but as mentioned before gives a blackboard type finish which I definitly dont want!

Maybe possible to put matt and then clear paint/laquer also for high temp??

Help uber appreciated  :happy2: !!

Title: Re: Brake calipers, Powder coated or painted???
Post by: vRSAlex on March 10, 2013, 03:48:28 pm
Ive always used foliatec caliper paint. Its a two part epoxy style paint that goes rock hard and seems to be resistant to brake fluid.  Its brush on but dries to a smooth finish.

Available in loads of different colours from euro car parts.
Title: Re: Brake calipers, Powder coated or painted???
Post by: Andy on March 10, 2013, 04:10:02 pm
Just painted.them Carlo  like i did with mine- then if they  do get chipped.you can touch.them.up.instead of sending them away and having no.car.for a fortnight  if they need power coating
Title: Re: Brake calipers, Powder coated or painted???
Post by: omeydz on March 10, 2013, 04:40:25 pm
Thanks  :happy2:

Need to finish disassembling my brakes first!