MK5 Golf GTI

All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: smilespergallon on July 17, 2023, 10:56:14 am

Title: Engine Mounts
Post by: smilespergallon on July 17, 2023, 10:56:14 am

I'm looking to replace the engine mounts for my manual Mk5 Golf GTI Edition 30.

I believe these are the VW part numbers:

Right Engine Mount: 1K0 199 262 P (this substituted the part 1K0 199 262 M)
Left Engine Mount: 1K0 199 555 Q
Rear Engine Mount: 1K0 199 855 BJ

I've managed to get a genuine VW rear engine mount, along with a Lemforder left engine mount, but the right engine mount seems to be out of stock absolutely everywhere I look.

This is the Lemforder part number for the Right Engine Mount: 31034 01

Would it be best to just wait for this engine mount to become available again, or should I look for an alternative? Also, if I were to wait, would it be a bad idea to replace the rear and left engine mounts in the meantime while I'm waiting for the right engine mount to come back in stock?

Title: Re: Engine Mounts
Post by: terrier on July 17, 2023, 04:53:16 pm

Ive fitted FEBI ones...The ones with vw part numbers stamped on them :happy2:
A full set of bolts will be £70 from TPS
 Worth noting the gearbox mount comes in 2 different variants  6 or 7 bolts :happy2:

Title: Re: Engine Mounts
Post by: breeze on July 18, 2023, 07:28:02 am

Try and fit all at once if you can. It will put less strain on the new mounts.

I did I think Lemforder and Febi for the one I couldn’t get. Was a while ago now. I also fitted a Powerflex subframe bushing insert.

Title: Re: Engine Mounts
Post by: smilespergallon on July 18, 2023, 10:02:17 am

Thanks both. I've gone for the Febi for the right engine mount. Better than nothing.

Part Number: FEBI BILSTEIN 23020

It's coming to about £200 altogether to replace all of the engine mounts. Bolts make up about 1/3 of that cost. I was going to skimp on the bolts but after reading a few times now that it's best to change the bolts, I couldn't not.

Quote from: breeze on July 18, 2023, 07:28:02 am

I also fitted a Powerflex subframe bushing insert.

I've also got the Powerflex subframe bushing insert ready. Do you like it?

I'm wondering if it's going to increase the vibration and make the car less enjoyable when idling, or if the original bush is going to be so worn out that it will just bring it back to "normal".

Title: Re: Engine Mounts
Post by: mk1_dave on July 18, 2023, 08:53:20 pm

I have the febi engine mounts also. I got mine from Amazon think they were around £40 per side.

Also have the powerflex yellow dogbone insert with the powerflex engine mount void fillers. Vibration is increased at idle but makes such a difference when driving and changing gear.

Title: Re: Engine Mounts
Post by: smilespergallon on July 21, 2023, 09:06:09 pm

Fitted the dogbone mount today along with the yellow powerflex insert.

Dogbone Old Part Number: 1K0199855AE
Dogbone New Part Number: 1K0199855BJ

Powerflex Insert: PFF85-504

The big bolt that goes through the bushing was really tight, and it didn't help that it flexed due to the bushing, but managed to get it off with the help of some WD40 and a 600mm breaker bar.

Car seems to drive a little better -- a bit more thrusty when accelerating. I think it will get better again when I replace the left and right engine mounts (still waiting on the parts).

I was a bit apprehensive about fitting the powerflex insert in to the subframe bushing as I heard it can cause the car to vibrate uncomfortably when idling. But it's absolutely fine. No negative change at all. I think this might just be a problem on Mk7 Golf GTIs with a bushing that is still in good condition, as the reports of an increase in NVH seem to be related to fitting this bushing to newer GTIs.

A lot of the tutorial videos use a trolley jack to force the insert in, but for me it slid in really easily by hand (with the help of some silicone grease). I think this just goes to show how worn the bush is on my car, so the insert is probably just taking the car back to its old strength rather than making it stiffer than stock.

Anyway, in case anyone plans on doing this, these are the torque specs from the manual (bpy_10-engine-removing-and-installing.pdf (http://"https://vwts.ru/engine/bpy/bpy_10.pdf")):

Two smaller bolts toward the front of the car: 40NM + 90 degrees
Big bolt going through the subframe bushing: 100NM + 90 degrees

Thanks again for all the help.


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