MK5 Golf GTI

General => Detailing => Topic started by: Kemosabi1 on April 05, 2010, 09:48:35 pm

Title: Detailing!
Post by: Kemosabi1 on April 05, 2010, 09:48:35 pm
Well, I'm no good you know.  I've been plodding along merrily for years, washing my car as little as poss and then majority of the time taking it to the hand car wash places that scratch the heck out of your car.  I think I would have washed my own car more has I seen some of the results on here!

Spent an hour or 2 last night reading posts in this section - immense.  Can't believe how much there is to car washing!  I went on CleanYourCar.com and started trying to look at what I would need to try achieve some of the amazing finishes on here and at a minimum, not including a bucket was rattling up a bill of £65!  See below what a complete amateur put in his basket and let me know if I am on the right lines!

Dodo Juice - Born to be mild shampoo - £8
Meg Microfibre washmit £8
Microfibre drying towel £9
Carlack and Collinite 476 kit (including mits etc) £28
Meg NXT Glass Cleaner £7 (don't like dirty glass on the interior)

Is that enough?  I didn't want to go to the lengths of clay etc - baby steps, need to build up to the full deal.

Any better suggestions - starter packs anyone is aware off?  My wife insists i've gone mad looking at spending so much on cleaning gear. :grin:






Title: Re: Detailing!
Post by: snapey on April 05, 2010, 10:13:47 pm
To be honest if it's never been properly cleaned i.e. clayed, sealed etc your pretty much going to be polishing over tar, sap etc etc.

Best bet is to just go all out on it and start with a clay then correct the paint work.

Just my 2p but there are a load of experienced detailers on here who'll soon point you in the right direction.
Title: Re: Detailing!
Post by: Kemosabi1 on April 05, 2010, 10:21:03 pm
Thanks mate.  Should have made the point that I am picking up my new car tom (I've had a gti prev) so would be kinda like turning over a new leaf for this one.  56 plate, 20,000 miles, black metallic, 5 door.
Title: Re: Detailing!
Post by: keith on April 05, 2010, 10:30:05 pm
Snapey has a point. but you have to start somewhere lol. My preference for wash mitts are lambswool as i dont think the microfibre ones are as good as the l/wool ones. Dodo juice shampoo is good, the megs nxt would suffice. theres endless combinations out there. if youre interested then you can check my site and I can put a deal together for you as a forum member.
Title: Re: Detailing!
Post by: stealthwolf on April 05, 2010, 10:33:32 pm
Ideally it's first wash should be a full detail. Get it done properly and then it'd be easier for you to top up.

If you don't want paintwork correction, you can leave it till later but agree with the above regarding a clay kit. Even somethig like megs smooth surface clay kit from halfords is fine.

Remember - you need TWO buckets.

Tescos do lots of microfibre cloths - £2 per pack of 2. I use this for applying products to the car.

You've made no mention of black plastic trim, wheel cleaner, tyre shine or exhaust cleaning.
Title: Re: Detailing!
Post by: Tuffy on April 06, 2010, 07:08:40 pm
Same as the other guys advice really buddy. You cant polish a turd mate, you really need to get back to a nice clean paint work free from tar, sap, and road film. worth adding some clay to your list, once you've done it and see what it takes off your car you'll know its a process thats a must. Detailing is a little a addictive mate but worth spending the extra £ as you get what you pay for.
Buy cheap buy twice!
Title: Re: Detailing!
Post by: VC on April 06, 2010, 07:14:58 pm
...bucket...yes you do need one  :grin:

one with a grit guard in the bottom FTW  :happy2:
Title: Re: Detailing!
Post by: Kemosabi1 on April 07, 2010, 10:28:47 pm
Ok, I'm sold re the clay - let's give it a go.  What do you do with the stuff?  Literally rub gently on the paint work?

Good shout re Tesco's too - noticed it's pretty cheap for cloths etc.   Think I will scrap the Carlack an Collinite kit then and just get the Collinite.  Not sure what the car lack stuff is anyway and if I'm getting clay is that not enough?

2 buckets - i'm on board with that too

Halfords do a lambswool mit for £7 odd, i'll plump for that instead of the microfibre.

Is there a real difference in spending £8 on a megs glass cleaner rather than some 2quid wipes from tesco?  (sorry for the ignorance but it's a hell of a mark up in price so need to justify!)

Argh!  More q's and than a's!

Basic one this - new to the forum thing, what is FTW?



Title: Re: Detailing!
Post by: Kemosabi1 on April 07, 2010, 10:36:57 pm
Anyone have a tip on a decent reasonably priced clay that is safe for beginners!
Title: Re: Detailing!
Post by: VC on April 07, 2010, 10:38:57 pm
FTW = For The Win
FTMFW = For The Mother Fcuking Win

:pomppomp:
Title: Re: Detailing!
Post by: Kemosabi1 on April 07, 2010, 11:00:31 pm
Thanks VC - that was killing me!

OK - revised basket totals £63 - I need to bring this down to sub £50, ideally £40 for a starter then build up gradually.

Megs NXT Glass Cleaner (essential?) £7
Microfibre drying towel £9
Dodo Juice, born to be mild shampoo £8
Megs Quik Clay Kit £12
Collinite 476s wax £14
Megs Hot rims wheel cleaner £6
remainder VAT.

Am I best just cutting my teeth with an Auto-Glym pack?
Title: Re: Detailing!
Post by: stealthwolf on April 07, 2010, 11:03:16 pm
The problem with detailing is that it's expensive. I've spent at least £400-500 on detailing stuff. A good chunk was a machine polishing kit.
Title: Re: Detailing!
Post by: Greeners on April 07, 2010, 11:31:02 pm

Tescos do lots of microfibre cloths - £2 per pack of 2. I use this for applying products to the car.



Not wanting to pick flies oh Stealthmaster but applying product with an MF is a waste of product as it both absorbs said product and cleans it off again with one hit. Use a decent foam applicator for applying and remove/buff with an MF!  :wink: :happy2:
Title: Re: Detailing!
Post by: stealthwolf on April 07, 2010, 11:41:31 pm
^^^See I'm now certain I picked that up from here and then used it on detailingworld and got shot down for it. Or was it at over golfgti.co.uk?
Title: Re: Detailing!
Post by: stealthwolf on April 07, 2010, 11:46:57 pm
Okay found the thread and post: clicky (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,2948.msg44680.html#msg44680)

next post from Jim at AP says use MF for everything.

 
Title: Re: Detailing!
Post by: Greeners on April 08, 2010, 03:53:58 pm
Okay found the thread and post: clicky (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,2948.msg44680.html#msg44680)

next post from Jim at AP says use MF for everything.

 

I'm sure if you asked 10 detailers 5 would say one thing and the other five the other!  :rolleye:

It makes sense to me and for that reason alone I will only use this method in the future.  :happy2:
Title: Re: Detailing!
Post by: stealthwolf on April 09, 2010, 01:32:36 am
I'm sure if you asked 10 detailers 5 would say one thing and the other five the other!
This is why I keep shifting practices. I started off using MF. Then found DW and started using foam applicators. Was then recommended to use MF only. Now it's back to foam again!
Title: Re: Detailing!
Post by: keith on April 09, 2010, 05:47:07 pm
I use Foam as they tend to be cheaper than MF's again everyones opinion differs if it works stick with it.
Title: Re: Detailing!
Post by: JPC on April 09, 2010, 05:53:19 pm
Ive never applied any LSP with a microfibre. Ever ever ever!

I have applied with a MF pad maybe 3 times, but as Nath says, it just soaks up product without having an advantage over Foam Pads.

I waxed a Range Rover Sport last night which had been resprayed with the SOFTEST paint ever and didnt have a single issue with a Foam pad! ;)
Title: Re: Detailing!
Post by: candy turbo on April 10, 2010, 08:28:18 am
get jay ^^^^^^ to detail it first off (he s the daddy ) then do as he says to look after it !!  that my 2p worth  :happy2:
Title: Re: Detailing!
Post by: big al on April 10, 2010, 05:55:41 pm
I have done this, and built up my washing collection over a period of time, but have never used clay on the car.
How do you use it? Is it just rubbed over the car to remove all of the old set in dirt etc? Whats the best one to use?
Title: Re: Detailing!
Post by: stealthwolf on April 10, 2010, 06:11:47 pm
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,12816.msg196747.html#msg196747

^^^Have a read of that. As a beginner's set you can't go wrong with Megs smooth surface clay kit from halfrauds.
Title: Re: Detailing!
Post by: Kemosabi1 on April 10, 2010, 07:12:35 pm
Will check it out Stealth - good shout