MK5 Golf GTI

General => Detailing => Topic started by: Rob GTI on April 08, 2010, 09:09:51 pm

Title: Light Scratch - paint restoration
Post by: Rob GTI on April 08, 2010, 09:09:51 pm
Got some light scratches from "courtesy" wash at the dealers a couple of weeks ago. They must have got some grit in  the sponge that they would have used for the 50th time that day, anyway they took it back in and tried to polish them out not that I could tell the difference, anyway I tried to get them out myself using some turtle wax safe cut:

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_158824_langId_-1_categoryId_165527

I did a fairly good job at getting them out but has left the paintwork discoloured with some even finer light scracthes of its own, so perphaps not that safe. I've used some AG Super resin polish to tidy the paint back up but its proving hard work.

Anyone got any suggestions of what other polish / product I could use for this?

Halfrauds has got a 3 for 2 on at the mo so I might nip down as I need a new clay bar and lube in any case.

PS I need a hand polish not machine as I havedn't got a machine polsiher or don't trust myslef with one.

Cheers
Title: Re: Light Scratch - paint restoration
Post by: S2 Ant on April 09, 2010, 09:52:40 am
I'd consider claying the panel before getting in to polishing too much to make sure its properly clean so as not to add to the problems you're talking about.

AG also do a Paint Renovator (Think it has a pink label to the usual white bottle) which is supposed to help with removing light scratches and works by hand just fine from what i've seen of a friend using it although i have no personal experience with it.

I'm sure someone like JPC will be able to give better advice as a detailer, or perhaps try posting on Detailing World for some info however you'll probably end up spending a small fortune on cleaning products lol
Title: Re: Light Scratch - paint restoration
Post by: Rob GTI on April 09, 2010, 10:16:08 am
Yes the Auto Glym paint renovator seems a good bet, just wanted to share some experiences before I spashed out;

heres a pic of the offending area:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fs337%2FRobGTIPhotos%2FIMGP4126.jpg&hash=74ecf1ba308fd2ff9b1bdbec491ae622446a1aba)
Title: Re: Light Scratch - paint restoration
Post by: seckles on April 09, 2010, 10:49:38 am
Personally I would try some Megs ScratchX http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_203401_categoryId_165527_langId_-1?cm_vc=IOV4PDPZ1 (http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_203401_categoryId_165527_langId_-1?cm_vc=IOV4PDPZ1)

You have to work it in for ages and it might take a couple of tries but it does work well & won't leave any extra scratches / swirls of it's own. Failing that, you're gonna need to machine polish it, which I'd be more than happy to oblige if you are in the Wakefield area  :happy2:

Steve
Title: Re: Light Scratch - paint restoration
Post by: Rob GTI on April 09, 2010, 11:22:12 am
Should have added that I tried that as well on after the "Safe Cut", did improve things but not a complete cure. Maybe I need to be a bit more patient and try again.

I would love to take you up on the machine polishing offer but Im a long way from you in Swansea.
Title: Re: Light Scratch - paint restoration
Post by: seckles on April 09, 2010, 12:30:49 pm
Keep trying with the ScratchX - you do need to rub it in for ages and give it a few goes! You could also try applying it with one of these http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/accessories/ultimate-german-applicator/prod_280.html (http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/accessories/ultimate-german-applicator/prod_280.html) which apparently do help, but I've never used one.

Can you feel the scratches with your fingernail? If so, then there's no chance you'll get them out by hand polishing. If not, then you should be able to get rid of them with a bit of hard graft!

Steve
Title: Re: Light Scratch - paint restoration
Post by: Garth on April 09, 2010, 02:53:13 pm
Has anyone else had good results with megs scracth X? I've got some and can't get any marks out at all with it despite rubbing away like crazy with it (on the paint, not myself!) for ages. I've even tried it with my rotary polisher and it doesn't seem to do anything at all  :confused:
Title: Re: Light Scratch - paint restoration
Post by: S2 Ant on April 09, 2010, 02:54:25 pm
They look like they should polish out without too much drama. With regard ScratchX i think the AG Paint Renovator is the AG equivalent so if you have one then i dont think its worth going to get the other as its the same product by different companies.

As said above, aside from making sure the area is properly clean it will probably just require some elbow grease if you're not using a machine, just be careful as obviously using abrasives on the paintwork will be taking layers off and although tiny amounts, it all adds up and you dont want to end up with an even worse situation.
Title: Re: Light Scratch - paint restoration
Post by: S2 Ant on April 09, 2010, 02:55:44 pm
Has anyone else had good results with megs scracth X? I've got some and can't get any marks out at all with it despite rubbing away like crazy with it (on the paint, not myself!) for ages. I've even tried it with my rotary polisher and it doesn't seem to do anything at all  :confused:

I've used it before on the light scratches you get under door handles and it did remove some of them, i think they have a new formula out now ScratchX 2.0 which is meant to be better but ive always been happy with AG TBH and its usually more reasonably priced.
Title: Re: Light Scratch - paint restoration
Post by: JPC on April 09, 2010, 05:26:41 pm
I think you will be better using a product that will fill rather than be abrasive. Purely for the fact that, you are just NOT going to touch the paintwork on a golf by hand.

Another reason, i see so many cars where the owner tried to get rid of things by hand and ended up putting more serious marks into the paintwork.

I can completely understand owners wanting to try themselves by hand, but it normally ends up worse.

So, Id recommend Auto Glym Super Resin Polish, then a wax.

Title: Re: Light Scratch - paint restoration
Post by: Rob GTI on April 09, 2010, 05:34:41 pm
Thing is using the "Safe Cut" product I did remove the deeper scratches but in doing so was left with more lighter scratches. THe scratch X has made things better, but not removed them completely, thing is do I persist with the scratch X stuff or similar???
Title: Re: Light Scratch - paint restoration
Post by: JPC on April 09, 2010, 05:36:44 pm
Im wondering if you just masked it with a load of lighter scratches. I see how you get on with AG SRP, thats the best bet.

Ive seen some real messes with scratch X. Its for "spot" scratches, rather than big areas.

Title: Re: Light Scratch - paint restoration
Post by: B3n on April 13, 2010, 02:48:12 pm
Mate JPC is right then again he is never wrong lol! the paint on the Golf is to hard to get paint correction by hand.
The only real solution would be to save up some cash and get your car corrected by a detailer im going to be getting my black GTi done in a few weeks by james in TI22 so youll be more than welcome to pop done after to see what kind of results are possible. Until then youll just have to fill the offending scratches with AG SRP etc to cover the scratches until you can get them removed.

Ben
Title: Re: Light Scratch - paint restoration
Post by: CarrG on April 13, 2010, 03:03:10 pm
Rob, Give us a shout next time your in the area will sort it for you.

Ben, Ur soooo lazy :booty:
Title: Re: Light Scratch - paint restoration
Post by: B3n on April 13, 2010, 03:19:58 pm
Rob, Give us a shout next time your in the area will sort it for you.

Ben, Ur soooo lazy :booty:

Yup that i am :booty: Just aint got the time to do it anymore plus as its black i want it done properly so if you fancy it :drinking:
Haha

You have PM
Title: Re: Light Scratch - paint restoration
Post by: stealthwolf on April 13, 2010, 07:44:38 pm
Ben when do we see pics of the car?!?
Title: Re: Light Scratch - paint restoration
Post by: B3n on April 13, 2010, 08:58:14 pm
After ive added a few little bits and pieces :party:
Title: Re: Light Scratch - paint restoration
Post by: stealthwolf on April 13, 2010, 09:47:01 pm
 :P
Title: Re: Light Scratch - paint restoration
Post by: Rob GTI on April 13, 2010, 10:41:12 pm
Thanks for the  offers Ben and Gary. Will def get the paint correction done with a machine polisher been at it with the AG SRP its improved again but not 100%. Got a mate who might be able to lend a hand if not I'll be in touch soon.

Ben, so you've got rid of the GT for a GTI whats the spec? I'll have to keep and eye out fot it!
Title: Re: Light Scratch - paint restoration
Post by: B3n on April 13, 2010, 11:21:42 pm
No probs mate :happy2: Try applying a few layers of SRP its not going to give you 100% results but it wil help keep your eye off them.

Yeah changed the GT for a GTi couldnt resist mate Its a Black 07 plate with leather and monza II's ends MPY. If you need anything polishes or if you wana borrow my polisher give me a shout im in work all weekend :sad1:.

Ben 
Title: Re: Light Scratch - paint restoration
Post by: CarrG on April 14, 2010, 09:00:09 am
Rob, PC + Meg 105 just down the road if you need it.  :happy2:


Come on Ben pics???
Title: Re: Light Scratch - paint restoration
Post by: scotta on April 14, 2010, 12:08:15 pm
You could try some poorboys black hole. Seen some good results with it.

http://www.poorboysworld.com/blackhole.htm (http://www.poorboysworld.com/blackhole.htm)
Title: Re: Light Scratch - paint restoration
Post by: Rob GTI on April 14, 2010, 04:01:10 pm
I've actually got some of that and while it works well its only a temporary solution.