MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: gtineal on April 09, 2010, 10:55:53 pm
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is it possible to have my sidelights as drl's on my mk 5 ed30 ? ive tried searching but i think you can only activate the main xenons in scandinavian or us mode ? is this correct?
thanks
neal
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Welcome to the forum, Neal :drinking:
I don't know the answer to your specific question but if you wanted proper DRLs this is a solution, though more expensive:
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,1917.0.html
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Hi Neal - welcome,
As I understand it, if you have factory (OEM) Xenons, then you can indeed set them as US or Scandavian DRL's, although I don't actually know what the Scandanavian ones do tbh but both are an option in VCDS/VagCom.
I retrofitted my Xenons so I can't have either, but the sidelights do look smart anyway :happy2:
HTH.
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The oem sidelight strips on the Mk5 might look smart but they are useless in daytime as they give other road users absolute minimal chance of seeing you any better. Hence why people use LEDs.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FRedRobin_05%2FNurburgring2009%2FRRR8_Ring.jpg&hash=54bd6eb381f0db4dab8eb7fc47634e3180aec012)
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That's true RR, the standard bulbs on those are only visible when dusk starts to hit.
I've got some of the MTec White sidelights are they're a little better for visibility in the day and do the job well for me personally.
There aren't really many sidelights that will match your DRL's for brightness in daylight however.
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There aren't really many sidelights that will match your DRL's for brightness in daylight however.
....Burn! Baby! Burn!! :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin:
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Hi Neal - welcome,
As I understand it, if you have factory (OEM) Xenons, then you can indeed set them as US or Scandavian DRL's, although I don't actually know what the Scandanavian ones do tbh but both are an option in VCDS/VagCom.
I retrofitted my Xenons so I can't have either, but the sidelights do look smart anyway :happy2:
HTH.
As you know I have retro fitting my xenons with the auto level and washers and I managed to do the DRL's, don't ask me how cos for some reason it wont come back on but it must be a coding issue.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fss4%2Fmortygttdi%2FS1050858.jpg&hash=420454d300f359195a0853e6af1e3f59787c9e12)
Darren :happy2:
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Hi Neal - welcome,
As I understand it, if you have factory (OEM) Xenons, then you can indeed set them as US or Scandavian DRL's, although I don't actually know what the Scandanavian ones do tbh but both are an option in VCDS/VagCom.
I retrofitted my Xenons so I can't have either, but the sidelights do look smart anyway :happy2:
HTH.
As you know I have retro fitting my xenons with the auto level and washers and I managed to do the DRL's, don't ask me how cos for some reason it wont come back on but it must be a coding issue.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fss4%2Fmortygttdi%2FS1050858.jpg&hash=420454d300f359195a0853e6af1e3f59787c9e12)
Darren :happy2:
I think it's cause you have the wiring within the levelers Daz, it must be something to do with that? :smiley:
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The oem sidelight strips on the Mk5 might look smart but they are useless in daytime as they give other road users absolute minimal chance of seeing you any better. Hence why people use LEDs.
The OEM sidelights are within legal limits for use as DRLs where appropriate laws apply and will conform to forthcoming legislation.
I believe that if the "US" setting is used then they will be on whenever the keyswitch is in the "on" position. The Scandinavian setting will turn on the main beams as well, as local legislation requires main beams be on at all times while driving (hence Volvo lights always being on), but I'm not 100% that that is what the VCDS setting will do.
...or you can just flip the lightswitch to sidelights mode, which is what I do (which turns on the taillights as well).
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The oem sidelight strips on the Mk5 might look smart but they are useless in daytime as they give other road users absolute minimal chance of seeing you any better. Hence why people use LEDs.
The OEM sidelights are within legal limits for use as DRLs where appropriate laws apply and will conform to forthcoming legislation.
I believe that if the "US" setting is used then they will be on whenever the keyswitch is in the "on" position. The Scandinavian setting will turn on the main beams as well, as local legislation requires main beams be on at all times while driving (hence Volvo lights always being on), but I'm not 100% that that is what the VCDS setting will do.
...or you can just flip the lightswitch to sidelights mode, which is what I do (which turns on the taillights as well).
....I'm surprised that the oem sidelights on the Mk5 will conform to the forthcoming legislation, but the point is that as DRL's they are hardly very effective.
Different countries have been arguing for ages about the subject and Britain has been somewhat unenthusiastic. Mine are wired with the ignition too.
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cheers :drinking: for the replys fellas, it was just out of curiosity really, on the new audis a3's there sidelights are like the mk5 golf's and buy the looks of it they run them as drl's because there rear lights are not on ?
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cheers :drinking: for the replys fellas, it was just out of curiosity really, on the new audis a3's there sidelights are like the mk5 golf's and buy the looks of it they run them as drl's because there rear lights are not on ?
Correct. You'll note the same on new Sciroccos and Golfs as well.
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The new Roccos and Golfs have different lighting units and arrangements to the Mk5 Golf.
The Rocco R and Golf R have proper effective DRLs, as do the better Audis.
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Hi All, I coded the DRL's American via VCDS on my OEM xenons, when I first tested they seemed to be working fine, although I stupidly made them very dim by adjusting the brightness the wrong way. But after parking the car over night and starting up in broad-daylight the DRL's seem to have reverted to the main beams which were on no matter what I did with the light switch. So I turned the function back off.
I believe that American should be front sidelights only and Scandavanian front and rear sidelights. but CMDRFIRE might be right about the main beams being involved in the Scandinavian option. HTH
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Mine are according to some Euro rule (forgotten the #) and are front DRLs only without rears or any other lights.
This is going to be a right mish-mash of legislation in different territories even just in Europe. All the studies and long consultive documents I've read from various European (including UK) countries have conflicting ideas and proposals and the UK has been particularly resistant to it happening at all.. Duh! :stupid: So much for a united Europe.
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Mine are according to some Euro rule (forgotten the #) and are front DRLs only without rears or any other lights.
This is going to be a right mish-mash of legislation in different territories even just in Europe. All the studies and long consultive documents I've read from various European (including UK) countries have conflicting ideas and proposals and the UK has been particularly resistant to it happening at all.. Duh! :stupid: So much for a united Europe.
The European directive on the subject (possibly 95/54/EC, which covers "e-marking" and other automotive requirements, but I might be wrong) includes a standard on DRLs which specify their requirements. It is up to individual member states to transpose the requirements of 95/54/EC (or any other directive) via a UK standard - as an example, the EU EMC (Electromagnetic Compatibility) Directive 2004/108/EC is transposed in the Member States through a number of harmonised standards, which in the UK is accomplished via The Electromagnetic Compatibility Regulations 2006, which in turn specifies the standard BS EN 61000 for Electromagnetic compatibility.
It's a bit of a mess and it works reasonably well given the broad reach of Europe and the countries differing histories and infrastructure. Take the common-or-garden mains plug, across the EU you will find:
English three square pin 13A fused plug as defined by BS EN 1362
Two round pin "continental" type plug, as commonly used in France and Spain and all over Europe
Three round pin "swiss" type plug, used in Switzerland/Germany/etc and all over Europe (defined by some TuV standard)
Two flat pin and one round pin as sometimes found in Eastern Europe/ex Soviet bloc countries
Strange Soviet implementations of all of the above
Enforcing everyone to use the same plug is something that everyone would object to and, whatever standard was chosen, would cost billions of euros in both time and labour as the infrastructure was appropriately modified, and would be a nightmare to implement and enforce.
The current system of EU Directives being implemented by local regulations calling on local harmonised standards works, more or less, but it's messy and results in silly amounts of paperwork.
I'm having to deal with all of this stuff at work at the moment which is about as exciting as it sounds...
Anyway, DRLs are lights at the front only and not taillights. The UK argued against DRLs because 1) VCA don't like change, 2) they argued that there would be a decrease in fuel economy as a result of increased alternator load, 3) questionable data on DRLs improving safety. However I understand (being, in one of my many lives, a member of the Centre for Transport Studies at Imperial and UCL) that there is sufficient data to say that DRLs do improve safety somewhat at negligible cost.
Anyway. Should go back to doing work I suppose. The Low Voltage Directive is so much fun...
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Anyway, DRLs are lights at the front only and not taillights. The UK argued against DRLs because 1) VCA don't like change, 2) they argued that there would be a decrease in fuel economy as a result of increased alternator load, 3) questionable data on DRLs improving safety. However I understand (being, in one of my many lives, a member of the Centre for Transport Studies at Imperial and UCL) that there is sufficient data to say that DRLs do improve safety somewhat at negligible cost.
....That exactly and perfectly sums up what I read and understood.
I see you are back to pissing excellence again! :congrats: :congrats: :congrats: