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Title: Rear Spoiler / Third Brake Light
Post by: SteveP on January 09, 2009, 06:42:45 pm
Evening all,

Just wondered if anyone else has had problems with water ingress on the third brake light or a loose rear spoiler?

The story so far, mine was filling up with water so has been at my dealers bodyshop since monday, finally ready to collect tonight only to find they had issues with the replacement had to order a new spoiler as well due to problems while un-bonding the original.

When I arrived they had the car in the workshop (as requested so I could check it in the light) and found the spoiler was now lose and wobbly and the car covered in swirl marks  :sad: :sad: :sad:

I refused to take the car back so now I am stuck the 1.9TDI Golf again until Monday when they can sort me something more appropriate from the sales demo fleet.

I normally would recommend my dealer but of this occasion they has been absolutely shocking  :mad:  :fighting:
Title: Re: Rear Spoiler / Third Brake Light
Post by: Greeners on January 09, 2009, 06:45:23 pm
It's more likely their bodyshop have let them down Steve!

I have the same issue and was told they have to cut the spoiler of with a cheese wire type tool  :surprised: At that point I decided to leave my moist brake light alone!! 

Sorry to hear about your bad service though mate  :fighting: Better be sorted for Friday  :wink:
Title: Re: Rear Spoiler / Third Brake Light
Post by: Phil Mcavity on January 09, 2009, 06:47:16 pm
It's more likely their bodyshop have let them down Steve!

I have the same issue and was told they have to cut the spoiler of with a cheese wire type tool  :surprised: At that point I decided to leave my moist brake light alone!! 

Sorry to hear about your bad service though mate  :fighting: Better be sorted for Friday  :wink:
same here, too much damage for a sake of small droplets
Title: Re: Rear Spoiler / Third Brake Light
Post by: SteveP on January 09, 2009, 06:49:20 pm
It's more likely their bodyshop have let them down Steve!

I have the same issue and was told they have to cut the spoiler of with a cheese wire type tool  :surprised: At that point I decided to leave my moist brake light alone!! 

Sorry to hear about your bad service though mate  :fighting: Better be sorted for Friday  :wink:

Cr*p I forget about that while I was having words with them, right I will emailing dealer principal now to say it must be ready for Thursday night at the lastest   :chicken:

Trouble was with mine it was full of water or I would have just left it :surprised:
Title: Re: Rear Spoiler / Third Brake Light
Post by: Hurdy on January 09, 2009, 07:08:27 pm
Sorry to hear about the problems Steve :sad:

Tagnut had his done for condensation issues in his high level brake light and had it fixed with no real issues. Mine gets a little condensation in every now and then too, but I'm not too worried as long as it doesn't become too excessive like yours seems to have done. I do tend to look at peoples rear lights now too :rolleye:
Title: Re: Rear Spoiler / Third Brake Light
Post by: bacillus on January 09, 2009, 07:08:43 pm
You could have just drilled a small hole to let the water out then put some clear sellotape to reseal it.
Title: Re: Rear Spoiler / Third Brake Light
Post by: vwrascal on January 09, 2009, 07:10:01 pm
oh dear steve, not good, is this a common problem with the golfs?? going to check mine in the morning  :scared:
Title: Re: Rear Spoiler / Third Brake Light
Post by: Phil Mcavity on January 09, 2009, 07:13:24 pm
all 3 of my GTi's have done the same, Teutonic reckon'd it was the rear wash wipe just causing the water to get it. :confused:

i think its purely heat sweat inside rear spoiler.

Perhaps yes drill a tiny hole to allow it to breath, or maybe that'll do the reverse and let more water in???
Title: Re: Rear Spoiler / Third Brake Light
Post by: ccaasjf on January 09, 2009, 07:16:39 pm
Hiya

This is a very common problem on GTI/R32 only, i have even seen the light hanging out.

I had mine done by Newbolds of Mansfield, the guy chuckled saying they had done 2 already and scratched one of them.

Anyways picked it up the same day and it was perfect, no scratches new light brake 6 months later still ok.

Simon
Title: Re: Rear Spoiler / Third Brake Light
Post by: Greeners on January 09, 2009, 07:17:37 pm
My theory (as I've NEVER used the rear wash wipe) is that the water gets in between the roof and the spoiler as it always seems worse after Iv'e washed it  :surprised: It's more than likely a poor seal between the two and VW have already told me they use a different bonding agent for the fix!
Title: Re: Rear Spoiler / Third Brake Light
Post by: SteveP on January 09, 2009, 07:36:43 pm
^^^ I would agree it must be something to do with the seal between the roof and the spoiler so water will be getting not only into the brake light but constantly on the top of the boot lid, which was another reason I wanted it sorting.
Title: Re: Rear Spoiler / Third Brake Light
Post by: madman on January 09, 2009, 07:50:13 pm
hope you get it sorted mate. Had mine done 4 months ago and its been fine so far. the stealers do my head in. I worry when my car goes in for sum work. It always comes out worse but they did sort the 3rd brake light out  :happy2:
Title: Re: Rear Spoiler / Third Brake Light
Post by: stealthwolf on January 09, 2009, 08:01:08 pm
You could have just drilled a small hole to let the water out then put some clear sellotape to reseal it.

Has anyone actually done this mod? I'm thinking of it but don't wanna screw things up.
Title: Re: Rear Spoiler / Third Brake Light
Post by: candy turbo on January 09, 2009, 09:21:52 pm
not sure it can be done but would be better if you could drill 2 little holes and just leave them open , let the air get in and out !
Title: Re: Rear Spoiler / Third Brake Light
Post by: Hurdy on January 10, 2009, 02:12:02 pm
not sure it can be done but would be better if you could drill 2 little holes and just leave them open , let the air get in and out !

It would also let jet wash in unless you taped them up each time :happy2:
Title: Re: Rear Spoiler / Third Brake Light
Post by: ub7rm on January 12, 2009, 08:27:27 am
Touch wood on my 05 plate its dry as a bone, but in the event it did start filling up with water I would be going with the two small holes approach to sorting the problem.  Using something like a dremel rather than the trusty hammer drill of course...
Title: Re: Rear Spoiler / Third Brake Light
Post by: v2brett on January 12, 2009, 10:53:15 pm
mine had some condensation and had just about stopped working altoghether it was really dull, had it replaced under warranty along with a new spoiler and all looks well touch wood.   not an easy to solve problem this  :mad:
Title: Re: Rear Spoiler / Third Brake Light
Post by: JPC on January 12, 2009, 10:57:49 pm
i noticed when i was in vag com a while back, i had a "half rear wiper wash jet" or something along those lines. this option was ticked as default.

the water only jets up about half way up the rear window. the only thing that would come into contact with the rear brake light is probably some light spray.

is this the case on all mk5 golfs or does the washer jet reach the top of the window and consiquently the brake light?
Title: Re: Rear Spoiler / Third Brake Light
Post by: SteveP on January 13, 2009, 05:59:19 am
^^^ mine only ever sprayed half way up the rear screen so I think it must have been getting in under the spoiler either when washing or driving in the in rain  :confused:
Title: Re: Rear Spoiler / Third Brake Light
Post by: ub7rm on January 13, 2009, 08:00:54 am
^^^ mine only ever sprayed half way up the rear screen so I think it must have been getting in under the spoiler either when washing or driving in the in rain  :confused:

Ditto, mine only goes halfway up the screen
Title: Re: Rear Spoiler / Third Brake Light
Post by: JPC on January 13, 2009, 10:03:25 am
oh ok, well that pisses on my chips

i was in vag com this morning and its termed "teardrop rear wash wipe"